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RandomAccount139135
Profile Joined January 2011
40 Posts
April 10 2011 18:35 GMT
#241
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
April 10 2011 18:35 GMT
#242
On April 10 2011 13:48 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 08:09 DharmaTurtle wrote:
Newton's Laws are goddamn LAWS. They're neither disproven or incomplete. There's Newtonian thinking, but even at light speed F= goddamn m*a, or in more specific terms f=dp/dt.

I'm gonna be a little pedantic: the only difference between a law and a theory is the amount of people who support it. I am by no means suggesting that Newton was wrong, just that it is possible (albeit really unlikely) that he was.

Newton was wrong though.
Completely and utterly wrong, it's kind of funny how arrogant dharma is about his lack of knowledge though :p
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
CuriousMoose
Profile Joined January 2011
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 18:47:48
April 10 2011 18:46 GMT
#243
How was he "completely and utterly wrong?" His model works pretty well for classical mechanical systems, and that's why it's still taught. While it's not true at all times, for a set of assumed conditions (ie objects tangible by human hands) it's a good enough approximation that physicists don't neglect it.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
April 10 2011 18:58 GMT
#244
Yes for certain systems Newtons laws are good approximations. That doesn't mean they aren't wrong.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
April 10 2011 19:04 GMT
#245
On April 08 2011 18:47 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
this type of thread is an excellent shibboleth. divides the retards from the norms really well

This. But it's always surprising just how many retards there are that believe in these crazy conspiracy theories.
ambient_orange
Profile Joined January 2010
170 Posts
April 10 2011 19:06 GMT
#246
there was a guy who was able to cure 100% patients who had eye problems.. or no eye vision at all.. but countries didnt even considered his proposals, only japan tried, and then said, its gonna blow the economy... so.. *f.. the people*
i cant vouch for the story to be completely true, but something like that definately happened.
Also you dont have to be smart to understand countries are for exploit people, not to free from diseases, works..
DOA: "Where are the signs for Nestea?" MC: "In Korea."
Rareware
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada340 Posts
April 10 2011 19:13 GMT
#247
On April 11 2011 04:06 ambient_orange wrote:
there was a guy who was able to cure 100% patients who had eye problems.. or no eye vision at all.. but countries didnt even considered his proposals, only japan tried, and then said, its gonna blow the economy... so.. *f.. the people*
i cant vouch for the story to be completely true, but something like that definately happened.
Also you dont have to be smart to understand countries are for exploit people, not to free from diseases, works..


Wait a minute curing eye problems and blindness blows the economy? Also if your not putting up sources than why should I believe you?
ROOT Fighting!!!
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
April 10 2011 19:13 GMT
#248
On April 11 2011 03:58 KlaCkoN wrote:
Yes for certain systems Newtons laws are good approximations. That doesn't mean they aren't wrong.


But not utterly, and completely wrong.

http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
April 10 2011 19:14 GMT
#249
Wow this is such a terrible thread. If the cancer 'virus' already has some kind of vaccine, there is simply no way in hell with the internet and modern communications that the information wouldn't get out into the public and start making instant headlines. Sure, people can be assholes at times, but the Nobel Prizes, fame and prestige offered by being the man responsible for the cure for cancer probably outweighs the grubby fat fingers of rich capitalist goons.

If this weren't true then how could you possibly explain the polio vaccines? You could make a lot of money off of keeping everyone stuffed with pills to delay the virus, and yet iirc the vaccine is FREE (At least in Canada) and offered to toddlers/newborns.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
April 10 2011 19:15 GMT
#250
Didn't they already cure cancer with homeopathy? Pretty sure they did. But it was too effective and the CIA covered it up to protect the pharmaceutics industry's profits so that the illuminati can fund the NWO leader inauguration taking place on December 23rd 2012. No?

Please.

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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
April 10 2011 19:29 GMT
#251
On April 11 2011 04:13 Polis wrote:
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On April 11 2011 03:58 KlaCkoN wrote:
Yes for certain systems Newtons laws are good approximations. That doesn't mean they aren't wrong.


But not utterly, and completely wrong.

http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm

Haha thank you for that essay, Assimov is great.
On the other hand newtons laws -> classical theory of electromagnetism -> all matter is predicted to glow in the dark.
Which is pretty close to what I would call "completely wrong"
Then again that's more me trying to find an elegant way to back out of a lost argument.
So fine I concede :p
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 20:39:29
April 10 2011 20:29 GMT
#252
http://vodpod.com/watch/5881967-rife-bare-plasma-experiment-destroys-organisms-september-21-2007 What do local scientist have to say about this?

Explanation of the device and technology used in the above video http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/music/aholland/PlasmaTwo.htm
Jopz
Profile Joined January 2008
United States262 Posts
April 10 2011 20:38 GMT
#253
On April 11 2011 05:29 -Archangel- wrote:
http://vodpod.com/watch/5881967-rife-bare-plasma-experiment-destroys-organisms-september-21-2007 What do local scientist have to say about this?


Are you serious? That's a video of God knows what with some random classical music played over it and someone claiming that the music is "destroying" the organisms. If you really want to sway people link sources in peer-reviewed publications or sources that at least show and try to explain the experimental set-up being used.

I could just as easily get a video of a nuclear test and play Tenacious D over it and claim that they cause nuclear explosions to happen~.~.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 10 2011 20:40 GMT
#254
On April 11 2011 05:38 Jopz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 05:29 -Archangel- wrote:
http://vodpod.com/watch/5881967-rife-bare-plasma-experiment-destroys-organisms-september-21-2007 What do local scientist have to say about this?


Are you serious? That's a video of God knows what with some random classical music played over it and someone claiming that the music is "destroying" the organisms. If you really want to sway people link sources in peer-reviewed publications or sources that at least show and try to explain the experimental set-up being used.

I could just as easily get a video of a nuclear test and play Tenacious D over it and claim that they cause nuclear explosions to happen~.~.

I edited my post with what you asked.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 10 2011 21:12 GMT
#255
OK, I have updated the OP with better links to better data that I have found in the meantime.
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
April 10 2011 21:30 GMT
#256
On April 11 2011 03:58 KlaCkoN wrote:
Yes for certain systems Newtons laws are good approximations. That doesn't mean they aren't wrong.


Actually, that does mean they're wrong. Something is only right when it is correct and accurate completely and totally in all cases.

Now, there are varying degrees of "wrong". 4.9999999 obviously isn't 5.0, but it's not that far from it either.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
April 10 2011 21:32 GMT
#257
He used a double negative; he's agreeing with that.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
April 10 2011 21:35 GMT
#258
On April 11 2011 06:12 -Archangel- wrote:
OK, I have updated the OP with better links to better data that I have found in the meantime.


Those links are just as full of incorrect science and incorrect or non-existent sources as all the original stuff. There is no new data at all, just more articles spouting the exact same stuff that has been so widely rejected by anyone who thinks about it critically and logically for one second. More people saying the wrong thing doesn't make it right.

Yes we know radiation kills or damages organisms. Does that have any relevence whatsoever to this resonant-frequency theory? No.

Yes we know glass can be destroyed by resonance from sound waves. Does that have any bearing on using electromagnetic waves to "resonate" cancer cells to death? I mean come on, what possible reason is there that it would?

Its the same bullshit over and over. People who have no idea what they are talking about grabbing hold of some big "sensation" because they can't find anything that is actually meaningful to do.
DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
April 10 2011 22:09 GMT
#259
I am throughly amused by how the OP still has zero peer reviewed content.

An outdated blog at a small liberal arts college does not science make. The author of the blog is this guy

http://cms.skidmore.edu/music/faculty/holland/upload/Holland-CV.pdf

who, as you'll note, is a professor of MUSIC. He is a smart guy, speaks five languages, but his antics in a lab are far from evidence of anything.
I went from bronze to platinum in 3 awesome days.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 10 2011 22:17 GMT
#260
On April 11 2011 06:35 Kasu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 06:12 -Archangel- wrote:
OK, I have updated the OP with better links to better data that I have found in the meantime.


Those links are just as full of incorrect science and incorrect or non-existent sources as all the original stuff. There is no new data at all, just more articles spouting the exact same stuff that has been so widely rejected by anyone who thinks about it critically and logically for one second. More people saying the wrong thing doesn't make it right.

Yes we know radiation kills or damages organisms. Does that have any relevence whatsoever to this resonant-frequency theory? No.

Yes we know glass can be destroyed by resonance from sound waves. Does that have any bearing on using electromagnetic waves to "resonate" cancer cells to death? I mean come on, what possible reason is there that it would?

Its the same bullshit over and over. People who have no idea what they are talking about grabbing hold of some big "sensation" because they can't find anything that is actually meaningful to do.

I guess you only read the first link. Others ones have plenty of scientific info. You just need to read first before saying bullshit here.
Anyways by what I read there is no more conspiracy here. This technology is now being researched by plenty of people and it is only a matter of time before it is put to wide use.
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