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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
April 08 2011 10:03 GMT
#21
On April 08 2011 19:00 Stacks wrote:
I have heard about this before, and find it interesting. Coupled with the fact that in Turkey they have baths with dolphins hampering cancer with the excapt same technique, by identifying the tumor as something bad and then "beam" it with theyre highly advanced sonar. They also do this among themselves.

And also, and more importantly what Jayve says, 500$ insta cure, or 50$ a month for 10 years cure ? Easy math for the big companys, wich also control education, scientific papers and the general proffessional consensus on the matter.

On the other hand, internet is full of bullshit, and cancer is not a virus ( so the spesific article is not on point). Further on, if this technique really does work on tumors, it would definatly work on human beeings and living organisms in general, and more easily that is. Hence the military would long ago have developed "sound-guns" or something similar, although the technique might require long exposure to the given resonance. I dont know.

Still, the dolphin thing is a fact, wich means there might be more to the matter than what i know.


Couldn't find anything online regarding the dolphins. Are you able to supply a source?
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arak
Profile Joined May 2010
9 Posts
April 08 2011 10:06 GMT
#22
I usually don't post, I'm more of a lurker, but reading things like this makes me weep for the future of humankind.

With a bit of basic search about cancer (hello Google and Wikipedia) you could see that cancer is not caused by a virus. Yes, viruses may increase the chance of it happening IN SOME CASES (the same as oil can increase a fire, but you can still make it with wood), but cancer "per se" it's not a virus.

But it's even funnier that people don't step to think about the implications of what you wrote. You say that every molecule has it's own resonance frequency. And live is based on the same bricks, it shares the same molecules from viruses to human being (and this is elementary-grade science knowledge).

So, can you image what will happen if you send a signal to destroy the molecules of a virus to the human body? I believe the xkcd of today is quite an appropriate description: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pain_rating.png
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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
April 08 2011 10:07 GMT
#23
On April 08 2011 19:01 -Archangel- wrote:
I wonder how many of you read the article. Maybe I quoted the wrong parts. He is not using sound to cure cancer.


Lol, did you read the article? The parts you quoted were the least ridiculous parts.

To pick a random piece:

"By 1933, he had perfected that technology and had constructed the incredibly complex Universal Microscope, which had nearly 6,000 different parts and was capable of magnifying objects 60,000 times their normal size."

Come on, man. Are you really this gullible?
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thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
April 08 2011 10:08 GMT
#24
On April 08 2011 18:58 VIB wrote:
Resonance? Really? Do you understand how resonance works and what you'd need to destroy "cancer cells" with it? It's not like cancer has a fixed frequency that you can just guess and throw the inverted frequency to destroy it. The frequency we emanate varies on a lot of variables all the time. You would have to not only be able to see exactly where each atom is, but also know where each one is moving to.

I call BS.


Actually human body parts have identified resonant frequencies. For example eyeballs resonate at 60-90Hz.

Doesn't seem completely impossible to identify the resonant frequency of a "cancer cell"
OGS:levelchange
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 10:10 GMT
#25
On April 08 2011 19:07 Zerokaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 19:01 -Archangel- wrote:
I wonder how many of you read the article. Maybe I quoted the wrong parts. He is not using sound to cure cancer.


Lol, did you read the article? The parts you quoted were the least ridiculous parts.

To pick a random piece:

"By 1933, he had perfected that technology and had constructed the incredibly complex Universal Microscope, which had nearly 6,000 different parts and was capable of magnifying objects 60,000 times their normal size."

Come on, man. Are you really this gullible?

And are you really that skeptic? You know they invented a principal of a steam machine in ancient Greece?
But it was less useful to them then slaves so nobody would invest to make it into something more useful.
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
April 08 2011 10:10 GMT
#26
So this is basically saying, if I'm at a classical concert and some guy hits a high C sharp, my body can potentially explode into a billion pieces? Better start soundproofing my room with acoustics.
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
April 08 2011 10:12 GMT
#27
On April 08 2011 19:10 Jombozeus wrote:
So this is basically saying, if I'm at a classical concert and some guy hits a high C sharp, my body can potentially explode into a billion pieces? Better start soundproofing my room with acoustics.


At very low frequencies your internal organs will start to mash about in your body and cause damage.
OGS:levelchange
MisterKatosS
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
France352 Posts
April 08 2011 10:14 GMT
#28
oooouucch this op is so uninformed:
Cancer is not a virus diseas , cancer is an alteration of a cell genes wich result in the infinite replication of the given cell, then you got growing balls of cells into your body wich destroy it from the inside.

Genes alteration cause cancers, and it can be caused by viruses,
but once you got cancer you can exterminate all the virus you want in your body, it wont cure you ...

to be cured you need to remove or destroy all the altered cells
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#29
On April 08 2011 19:08 thesideshow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 18:58 VIB wrote:
Resonance? Really? Do you understand how resonance works and what you'd need to destroy "cancer cells" with it? It's not like cancer has a fixed frequency that you can just guess and throw the inverted frequency to destroy it. The frequency we emanate varies on a lot of variables all the time. You would have to not only be able to see exactly where each atom is, but also know where each one is moving to.

I call BS.


Actually human body parts have identified resonant frequencies. For example eyeballs resonate at 60-90Hz.

Doesn't seem completely impossible to identify the resonant frequency of a "cancer cell"
60-90hz? Wow you just told me the exact precise number of the frequency, amplitude and offset of the waves I need to emit to destroy anyone's eyeballs! brb gonna conquer humanity. No you didn't :p
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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
April 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#30
On April 08 2011 19:10 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 19:07 Zerokaiser wrote:
On April 08 2011 19:01 -Archangel- wrote:
I wonder how many of you read the article. Maybe I quoted the wrong parts. He is not using sound to cure cancer.


Lol, did you read the article? The parts you quoted were the least ridiculous parts.

To pick a random piece:

"By 1933, he had perfected that technology and had constructed the incredibly complex Universal Microscope, which had nearly 6,000 different parts and was capable of magnifying objects 60,000 times their normal size."

Come on, man. Are you really this gullible?

And are you really that skeptic? You know they invented a principal of a steam machine in ancient Greece?
But it was less useful to them then slaves so nobody would invest to make it into something more useful.



I weep for you. I also implore you to check any single fact, name, or reference mentioned in that article. Seriously though, digging into specifics shouldn't be necessary.

Not to be rude, but what is wrong with your brain?
Lanaia is love.
Bigpet
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany533 Posts
April 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#31
On April 08 2011 19:10 -Archangel- wrote:
And are you really that skeptic? You know they invented a principal of a steam machine in ancient Greece?
But it was less useful to them then slaves so nobody would invest to make it into something more useful.


It didn't stand up to peer-reviews. So there's good reason to be sceptical. Also don't start with the typical conspiracy theories like "the reviewers were paid off by the big pharma".
I'm NOT the caster with a similar nick
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#32
This also reminds me of a news on TV about a guy that wanted to find a cure for cancer using radio waves but in the end managed to get water to burn with radio waves (it is on youtube somewhere).

I put a link to research papers about Rife discovery to the OP.
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
April 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#33
Seriously, do people not have the capacity to think independantly? Look at all the legs that this conspiracy rests on...

It seems like the whole medical peofession would have to be in on it. That means that when a doctors friends or family get cancer they do regular treatments to keep up the facade! A website breaks the story and instead of headlines around the world (and trust me, curing cancer will be a watershed in our history) there is no hype at all. Said author writes a story about it instad of patenting said wonder treatment and becoming the richest person on earth.

Anyway, I can't wait for your next installment on fairy dust powered cars
MisterKatosS
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 10:17:50
April 08 2011 10:17 GMT
#34
oooouucch this op is so uninformed:
Cancer is not a virus diseas , cancer is an alteration of a cell genes wich result in the infinite replication of the given cell, then you got growing balls of cells into your body wich destroy it from the inside (= tumors).

Genes alteration cause cancers, and it can be caused by viruses,
but once you got cancer you can exterminate all the virus you want in your body, it wont cure you ...

to be cured you need to remove or destroy all the altered cells
My web development company website : http://www.make-me-a-website.net My Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrKatoss
Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
April 08 2011 10:21 GMT
#35
Sounds very very suspicious.

I always wonder who all these cover-up people are. Most conspiracy theories require hundreds if not thousands of them. Do they live their lives as normal people, loving their kids, keeping quiet even when their own kid gets cancer? It's just so far fetched that people would sit in some secret society that plans for the suffering of mankind, smoking their fat cigars and not giving a shit. Of course there are selfish people but there aren't that many psychopaths and a whole secret society of them sitting in some dark dungeon and plotting.. I don't see it happening.

Using some old invention to scam money from sick people seems more like normal selfishness to me. It doesn't require active action against inventions that would benefit humanity.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#36
On April 08 2011 19:15 Zerokaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 19:10 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 08 2011 19:07 Zerokaiser wrote:
On April 08 2011 19:01 -Archangel- wrote:
I wonder how many of you read the article. Maybe I quoted the wrong parts. He is not using sound to cure cancer.


Lol, did you read the article? The parts you quoted were the least ridiculous parts.

To pick a random piece:

"By 1933, he had perfected that technology and had constructed the incredibly complex Universal Microscope, which had nearly 6,000 different parts and was capable of magnifying objects 60,000 times their normal size."

Come on, man. Are you really this gullible?

And are you really that skeptic? You know they invented a principal of a steam machine in ancient Greece?
But it was less useful to them then slaves so nobody would invest to make it into something more useful.



I weep for you. I also implore you to check any single fact, name, or reference mentioned in that article. Seriously though, digging into specifics shouldn't be necessary.

Not to be rude, but what is wrong with your brain?

Not to be rude, but if your discussion is trolling and insulting you can just GTFO.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
April 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#37
Laetril or Amygdalin (which is illegal in the US -- derives itself from the apricot kernel), is the best remedy to both prevent and put cancer in remission. Not everything the medical community prescribes is healthy, nor the best remedy. Just look at how the orthodox medical community in this country handles pregnancies. As with any medical intervention it is up to you to find the best available information and scrutinize all recommendations by the modern medical orthodoxy. I would hasten to add the major reason for the degradation in the medical community in regards to prescriptions and other common medical interventions is the fact that it has become much more expensive to get a product to the market thanks to the FDA. What used to take two years and much much less money, now takes upwards of 12 years and billions of dollars. That isn't cheap.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#38
i cant help but reply this lol

seriously?? i believe anyone has done high school will see the obviousness?? i mean, virus lol???

and ya, if i ever support mod to close a thread (that is non one liner)on tl, this will be the first thread.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 10:29:14
April 08 2011 10:26 GMT
#39
On April 08 2011 19:16 -Archangel- wrote:
This also reminds me of a news on TV about a guy that wanted to find a cure for cancer using radio waves but in the end managed to get water to burn with radio waves (it is on youtube somewhere).

I put a link to research papers about Rife discovery to the OP.



There's not really a polite way to say this, but you need to turn off the television, stop watching conspiracy videos on youtube, discontinue your magazine subscriptions, sit in your room and think for a couple of hours.

The idea that a fellow human being can be so foolish and mislead is cutting deep the other people in this thread. We want nothing but the best for your future, and that involves not believing everything you hear.



EDIT: Start by fact-checking any names, references, events, etc. mentioned in that article. You won't find much of anything that isn't just the Rife story itself. In fact, in my 5 minutes of "let's find something to give an example with" searching I found that the University of Heidelberg has never acknowledged Rife ever attending.
Lanaia is love.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
April 08 2011 10:28 GMT
#40
On April 08 2011 19:08 thesideshow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 18:58 VIB wrote:
Resonance? Really? Do you understand how resonance works and what you'd need to destroy "cancer cells" with it? It's not like cancer has a fixed frequency that you can just guess and throw the inverted frequency to destroy it. The frequency we emanate varies on a lot of variables all the time. You would have to not only be able to see exactly where each atom is, but also know where each one is moving to.

I call BS.


Actually human body parts have identified resonant frequencies. For example eyeballs resonate at 60-90Hz.

Doesn't seem completely impossible to identify the resonant frequency of a "cancer cell"


It really does. To be able to target cancer cells and no other cells you would have to be very specific with the right frequency etc. This is impossible because the molecular makeup of the cells is constantly changing, with proteins, organelles and sub-cellular structural components (microtubules etc.) being constantly created and degraded, changing the cells resonance frequency. There is therefore no way of knowing what the resonance frequency of cells are, and its certainly not a single value as the OP suggests.
You would have the same problem with tumours, them being different sizes, shapes and in contact with different tissues would make their resonance frequencies vary, making them impossible to target.
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