Banshees are a real fighting unit with a much easier tech, I'm gonna say Banshee.

EDIT: For lategame harass, I'd rather pay 150/100 for a unit that can harass AND THEN FLY AWAY than pay 125/125 over and over again...

BetterFasterStronger

United States604 Posts

March 10 2011 11:29 GMT

#23

I'm a terran player and i am ashamed that my terran brother would give up his Banshee.
A Banshee with Cloak is guaranteed to kill something because a Observer is actually slower then a banshee so you can move from base to base faster then the protoss can if he goes 1 observer.
If the protoss didn't go robo tech he loses.

If you go DT you are praying that the terran does not have any scans saved up or a safe missle turrent down (which i put one down at the 10 minute mark nearly every game unless i see a immortal or another tech path.

If you go DT you open up Zealots Stalkers and DT

if you go banshee you open up a entire tech tree. Except Thors, BC, Ghosts.
Your banshee opening will also give you a Raven. Which is the counter to DT

Theres really no logical argument for a DT being better then a Banshee

Sporadic44

United States533 Posts

March 10 2011 11:31 GMT

#24

On March 10 2011 20:22 Barett wrote:
I do understand both arguments, but just pure statistics it is way easier to transition out of Banshees without being way behind.

Every time any Protoss goes DT's and does no damage you are pretty far behind. Banshees you are also behind, I realize that, but you are not really far behind, you just teched a little faster then normal and spent little more money on 2 Banshees/cloak. It isn't near as much of a investment as DT's are.

The fact that Banhsees are ranged and flying is a huge bonus too. Pretty easy to get them away without loosing them.

did you watch the series between san and scf0u? i think he proved the utility of dts with that series alone.

hi im new

Germany150 Posts

March 10 2011 11:32 GMT

#25

On March 10 2011 20:27 Zefa wrote:
I predict 33% (Terran) vote for dts and 67% (Zerg and Protoss) vote for banshees

nope, terrans are acutally a lot more intelligent than protoss or zerg players (they picked terran, which is pretty smart) and therefore probably most people vote banshee.

Philip2110

Scotland798 Posts

March 10 2011 11:33 GMT

#26

Cant believe this is even a question lol

Deadlyfish

Denmark1980 Posts

March 10 2011 11:36 GMT

#27

DT's are more of a game-ender as painuser said. They 1 shot harvesters unlike banshees, and if you dont have scan/turrets up you're pretty much dead. With banshees you have time to react since they dont have the same insane damage.

Also, turrets are awesome against banshees, but against DTs you need a fair amount of units to deal with them. So if they sneak into your base a few turrets wont do anything.

Banshees are better in a real fight, and it might be the better tech path, and not as much of a commitment, but if the question is "would i rather have a DT or a banshee in his base" - the answer would be a DT.

Although the "which unit is best" question is kinda vague, you cant really say which is "best".

vOdToasT

Sweden2870 Posts

March 10 2011 11:39 GMT

#28

On March 10 2011 20:32 hi im new wrote:

Show nested quote +

nope, terrans are acutally a lot more intelligent than protoss or zerg players (they picked terran, which is pretty smart) and therefore probably most people vote banshee.

Stop trolling, dude.

vlf

Portugal170 Posts

March 10 2011 11:40 GMT

#29

DTs are good for multi pronged harass, while banshees appear to have a lot more versatility.

Alexj

Ukraine440 Posts

March 10 2011 11:40 GMT

#30

Why didn't you add that dts are oneshot by anything that sees it, while banshees are much tougher?

Zelniq

United States7166 Posts

March 10 2011 11:42 GMT

#31

i'd take lurker over both of those

Grebliv

Iceland800 Posts

March 10 2011 11:43 GMT

#32

I'd take dt's easy but that's because I never really open banshees anyways and for what I'd be doing the dt's fit better. Plop a few out of the rax every once in a while to cause some havoc, pretty much what I use banshees for now when i have a tlabbed port.

With warp in...Oh my god, really.

dt's are a lot easier to deflect early game that's true. Late game at least for me dt's are way more of a hassle, turrets = banshees do nothing.

rolfe

United Kingdom1266 Posts

March 10 2011 11:43 GMT

#33

i think banshees are far more deadly but what we need here really is some kind of neutral zerg player to judge. i nominate ret or haypro!

Netherlands12045 Posts

March 10 2011 11:44 GMT

#34

last time i check DTs 2 hit scv, not 1 hit... confirm?

Dfgj

Singapore5922 Posts

March 10 2011 11:45 GMT

#35

On March 10 2011 20:44 NB wrote:
last time i check DTs 2 hit scv, not 1 hit... confirm?

1 hit in SC2!

trancey_

Germany729 Posts

March 10 2011 11:45 GMT

#36

You only mentioned the DTs positive attributes and the Banshees negative ones.

Deadlyfish

Denmark1980 Posts

March 10 2011 11:46 GMT

#37

On March 10 2011 20:44 NB wrote:
last time i check DTs 2 hit scv, not 1 hit... confirm?

99% sure they 1 hit.

Piski

Finland3461 Posts

March 10 2011 11:46 GMT

#38

I find it kinda funny that it reads "Created from the most common Protoss Building" for dt and "Must be created in a Starport with Tech lab addon" for banshee.
You're forgetting how much more expencive and time consuming to go dt shrine. Your description makes it as you can warp in dts after you get gateways.

United States1056 Posts

March 10 2011 11:46 GMT

#39

I felt Tyler/Incontrol's arguments against DTs was like if you were only going to rush up to DTs which is fundamentally flawed. Rushing to DTs is muuuuuch more risky than rushing Banshees. I feel DTs are more effective throughout the game all the way into the late game. It's really easy to harass multiple bases at once with DTs as you can warp them in anywhere. Banshees take longer to build and have to slowly fly across the map where they can be easily intercepted, and once you kill a Banshee, a new one can't just be instantly warped in. I think the argument between them though is silly, the fulfill different roles. I really think DTs are much better as a late game harass unit rather than an early one like Banshees.

Rabiator

Germany3948 Posts

March 10 2011 11:46 GMT

#40

On March 10 2011 20:43 rolfe wrote:
i think banshees are far more deadly but what we need here really is some kind of neutral zerg player to judge. i nominate ret or haypro!

We dont need to vote because both units are as different as they can get. The whole "X is better than Y" is nonsense, because they are used differently.