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Pkol
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia176 Posts
December 14 2010 01:00 GMT
#81
I'm sure they did have yellow cake uranium, but you can't make a bomb out of it, 90% of yellow cake is uranium oxide, which is useless in making bombs, to get something weapons grade you need to extract the pure uranium, and then separate out the little U-235 (natural uranium is about 0.7% U-235) there is. It would have taken Saddam years and billions upon billions to create enough U-235 to make an actual viable bomb.

In regards to left over gas from the gulf war... I'm not really surprised some managed to avoid destruction.

All in all, this article is nothing but praying on the uneducated masses.
lolwut?
MarCoon
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany493 Posts
December 14 2010 01:01 GMT
#82
On December 14 2010 09:26 BROotogy wrote:
mind=blown

Holy shit all these years of mocking Bill O'riely.. and..

I am not gonna stop mocking Bill O'Reilly bcause of this.

Well finally we actually learn the truth about what happened back then, without propaganda from the right win nor the left wing.
~follow me on twitter.com/GGmarCoon
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
December 14 2010 01:02 GMT
#83
yeah thread title is misleading. It confirms yellowcakes but not WMDs
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 14 2010 01:02 GMT
#84
I miss the old days when TL wasn't so large. The first page of comments makes me sad, doesn't seem like anyone even bothered reading the article or even thought about trying to refute it. I usually prefer to read every comment before I post in a thread but now it's impossible when there are 5,000 people posting whatever is on their mind and a thread is 20 pages within the first hour.
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 14 2010 01:05 GMT
#85
On December 14 2010 09:40 Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:30 Krigwin wrote:
Why would they keep a lid on this if it provides justification for the entire war effort?

Because this isn't justification.

The article is horribly wrong... calling degraded yellowcake and chemicals that WE SOLD TO SADDAM WMDs. The article also claimed that Iraq wouldn't want nuclear power because it has oil, which is an out and out lie. Oil is pretty much their only export, and not needing to use it themselves would be a massive plus; they would have access to more foreign money.

Saddam admitted in his trial that he only pretended to have WMDs because he was afraid of Iran and he didn't expect the USA would attack.

"Derp we found chemicals in Iraq" is not evidence of a continuing WMD program. If you define chlorine as a WMD, ok, sue me I have WMDs in my house.

That's exactly my point. If we are to assume there is some justification to the war effort, then we are also to assume it was covered up by people who would have a lot to gain from revealing said justification. That clearly makes no sense.

Which raises my question to the OP: why would they keep it secret if it's justification as he claims?
BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
December 14 2010 01:05 GMT
#86
On December 14 2010 10:02 BlackJack wrote:
I miss the old days when TL wasn't so large. The first page of comments makes me sad, doesn't seem like anyone even bothered reading the article or even thought about trying to refute it. I usually prefer to read every comment before I post in a thread but now it's impossible when there are 5,000 people posting whatever is on their mind and a thread is 20 pages within the first hour.


You realize a mod commented on the first page too, right?
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
December 14 2010 01:06 GMT
#87
Generalizations are the only politic ways to insult mods, or didn't you understand?
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
December 14 2010 01:08 GMT
#88
Mods aren't above mistakes.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
ViruzZ
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden19 Posts
December 14 2010 01:08 GMT
#89
On December 14 2010 10:02 BlackJack wrote:
I miss the old days when TL wasn't so large. The first page of comments makes me sad, doesn't seem like anyone even bothered reading the article or even thought about trying to refute it. I usually prefer to read every comment before I post in a thread but now it's impossible when there are 5,000 people posting whatever is on their mind and a thread is 20 pages within the first hour.


Well put, OP need to change the headline, its missinformed and the quoted article is old news not adding any new facts.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 14 2010 01:10 GMT
#90
On December 14 2010 10:05 BROotogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 10:02 BlackJack wrote:
I miss the old days when TL wasn't so large. The first page of comments makes me sad, doesn't seem like anyone even bothered reading the article or even thought about trying to refute it. I usually prefer to read every comment before I post in a thread but now it's impossible when there are 5,000 people posting whatever is on their mind and a thread is 20 pages within the first hour.


You realize a mod commented on the first page too, right?


Yeah and that doesn't make your post any less subpar
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 14 2010 01:10 GMT
#91
On December 14 2010 10:02 BlackJack wrote:
I miss the old days when TL wasn't so large. The first page of comments makes me sad, doesn't seem like anyone even bothered reading the article or even thought about trying to refute it. I usually prefer to read every comment before I post in a thread but now it's impossible when there are 5,000 people posting whatever is on their mind and a thread is 20 pages within the first hour.

that happened in the 'old days' as well, quite often actually since they were more lenient back then
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
December 14 2010 01:12 GMT
#92
Toss in reference to wikileaks, make exaggerated opinion claim, pray no one does their homework? This might start popping up everywhere with subjects relating to anything.
bone577
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia65 Posts
December 14 2010 01:12 GMT
#93
On December 14 2010 10:02 BlackJack wrote:
I miss the old days when TL wasn't so large. The first page of comments makes me sad, doesn't seem like anyone even bothered reading the article or even thought about trying to refute it. I usually prefer to read every comment before I post in a thread but now it's impossible when there are 5,000 people posting whatever is on their mind and a thread is 20 pages within the first hour.


This. Read the article. Nothing new at all. All it seems to state is that their were some non-active and minimal remnants of the weapons programs of the pre-gulf-war era when it was known that Iraq was attempting to develop WMDs, and Iraq was on friendly terms with the US, especially for their war against Iran.

It isn't indicative of a more recent weapons program, it isn't new or surprising information, the thread title is terribly misleading.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
December 14 2010 01:12 GMT
#94
Just yet another misleading title on TL.net

Nothing to see here.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
December 14 2010 01:17 GMT
#95
This looks like old news, but LOL! I wouldn't be surprised if the wiki leaks turns up something that the liberal news doesn't like. There are nasty secrets everywhere and if this guy is just posting everything with no agenda, everyone should be scared.

Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 01:26:41
December 14 2010 01:24 GMT
#96
On December 14 2010 09:30 Krigwin wrote:
Why would they keep a lid on this if it provides justification for the entire war effort?


Because nothing found actually amounts to a weapon. Just the capacity to make one.

+ Show Spoiler +
In a herp derp chemicals = weapons kind of way.
pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 01:29:58
December 14 2010 01:29 GMT
#97
Almost every third world country in the world has some sort of access to yellow cake. The fact that Iraq had some lying around doesn't mean they had a WMD program now. In case everyone forgot, the Iraqis had a nuclear program sometime in the 80s. It isn't hard to believe they had materials left over from after the israelis bombed it.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 01:37:35
December 14 2010 01:31 GMT
#98
On December 14 2010 10:00 Pkol wrote:
All in all, this article is nothing but praying on the uneducated masses.


If it actually gets people to read the rest of leaks, the US can have all the confirmed-but-hidden WMDs in Iraq that it wants.

The US corporate media has been talking around the wikileaks issue since the leaks started generating press at more independent news agencies. It turns out we can ignore war crimes and politicians being generally horrible people but something that vindicates the chest-thumping conservative opinion (see post below), it could actually cause them to stop dismissing anything that wikileaks releases out of hand.

Major media hasn't actually been reporting the leaks, just the fact that Assange is chilling in a British prison.
TributeBoxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States163 Posts
December 14 2010 01:32 GMT
#99
Saddam threw the weapons inspectors out. It was a calculated provocation which he lost. I'm glad Saddam is dead. I wish we were not nation building for these Islamic savages that kill their own children for honor.

User was temp banned for this post.
"Violence and corruption, seldom strangers to the human scene, appear to be increasing today."
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
December 14 2010 01:34 GMT
#100
GWB FTW!! Guess the stupidity was just a trick-play, eh.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
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