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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
December 14 2010 01:39 GMT
#101
I wonder if this is actually part of the anon disinformation shit they've been doing.

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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 14 2010 01:40 GMT
#102
wow. if this claim stands up to scrutiny then this means that we were all wrong about Bush. i know it seems paranoid of me but i'm going to tentatively believe this claim. i feel like the US would do anything (even INCEPTION reporters) to get anything out of the wikileaks "problem".
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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 01:44:37
December 14 2010 01:43 GMT
#103
Has anyone corroborated this? I mean at least screenshots, PDFs, whatever of the actual evidence saying so. I'm well aware of The Examiner's spin (they're distributed in my area, since I live in the DC metropolitan or "DMV")...but if this is true, then it would settle this once and for all.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
December 14 2010 01:45 GMT
#104
i dont think anything can settle anything at this point.
US does have counter intelligence agencies you know.
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Puzz
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands18 Posts
December 14 2010 01:45 GMT
#105
Ok intresting reason to attack but they could have just said so in the first place... but no now they just use it as a weapon in the war on information.
YES THE WAR ON INFORMATION is see this thread derailing into a discussion about iraq that's to be suspected....
IF this is leaked to wikileaks then .gov just lost the war on info cause they will only leak known stuff like this on purpose.
Realy i hope this is not an eye opener for people in here, But the main job of a goverment is to make ppl listen and obay the law. Their main tool is information. The news will tell u the "truth" every day just like they do in every country and if they are right or wrong is for U to decide and for U only.
Yes even the things posted on wikileaks...And this is why there is an upset... cause for all country's things got out of hands.
The only thing i am surprised with is that ppl actually got to see this shit about wikileaks on the news. And tbh i dont realy do conpiracy theory i just think this is pretty much the truth eventough western media (europe more then us maybe) will bring u what they think is the truth indepently.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 14 2010 01:46 GMT
#106
WMD is a purposefully vague term, so it doesn't surprise me that they found something, even in poor condition. But then again, I didn't buy into the intelligence being deceitful, just misinformed. The first attacks were carried out with the belief that chemical weapons were going to be used on our soldiers and even the Republican Guard were surprised to find out that they weren't available anymore.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 14 2010 01:48 GMT
#107
Yellowcake in Iraq? Welcome to multiple years ago.

People referring to yellowcake as evidence of WMDs are fucking dumb.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
EzCheeze
Profile Joined November 2010
United States81 Posts
December 14 2010 01:49 GMT
#108
Read the NYT article, it entirely discredits the OP's quoted article. Bravo OP, at least you're not disingenuous enough to have us searching after the story that sets proper all of the bullshit spin you quoted.
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
December 14 2010 01:49 GMT
#109
Who the hell is wikileaks?
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
December 14 2010 01:52 GMT
#110
Wait, so how many people in this thread are jumping to conclusions based off a quote in an OP from an internet website based on an unconfirmed source of a supposedly leaked article that they haven't seen...?

Lets Occam's razor a bit and say that all those people who were being tortured would say something about active nuclear warheads. If we want to go to war on the potential dangers in the world, we may as well try to take over the whole thing and tell everyone else to fuck off to the moon.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
December 14 2010 01:55 GMT
#111
Like some have said before me this is nothing new and they didnt find ANY ACTUAL WEAPON.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 14 2010 02:01 GMT
#112
On December 14 2010 09:56 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:24 Frah wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:22 Coagulation wrote:
wow usa might regain some world respect?

Gives definite justification for what they did at least


No it doesn't. They should have done an inspection, not bomb hospitals, shell peoples houses and kill thousands of innocent victims.

I can't believe people would even say this, omg.

Well to be fair, that's not exactly what they did. Full-scale invasion? Yes. Killing thousands of innocent victims? That falls more on the terrorists.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 14 2010 02:03 GMT
#113
i vaguely recall reading something about this in 2008. yellowcake isn't the same as a wmd...
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lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
December 14 2010 02:04 GMT
#114
On December 14 2010 11:01 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:56 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:24 Frah wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:22 Coagulation wrote:
wow usa might regain some world respect?

Gives definite justification for what they did at least


No it doesn't. They should have done an inspection, not bomb hospitals, shell peoples houses and kill thousands of innocent victims.

I can't believe people would even say this, omg.

Well to be fair, that's not exactly what they did. Full-scale invasion? Yes. Killing thousands of innocent victims? That falls more on the terrorists.

True, the USA killed hundreds of thousands.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
ERGO
Profile Joined October 2008
United States168 Posts
December 14 2010 02:12 GMT
#115
This isn't really a WMD, it's a bunch of shit uranium. It's like saying a block of metal is a fully automatic rifle.

Big difference is that this can't be used for anything besides nuclear power and WMDs.

Just want everyone to realize how hard it is to turn a pile of uranium into something that will blow up.
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GypsyBeast
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada630 Posts
December 14 2010 02:15 GMT
#116
God i hope they lock assanage up for a long time, but this is good news i loved Bush
Ya? Well ill BM you harder! Another win in 10 seconds flat! -Rainbow Dash playing SC2.
FishForThought
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada88 Posts
December 14 2010 02:15 GMT
#117
The only reason why US would even invaded Iraq was because they didn't have WMD or any capability to use it. Anyone with half a brain would know not to attack a WMD capable country; hence we have a cold war and the conservative approach with North Korea.

It is sad, but the truth is WMD does protect your country and give you a bigger seat at the bargaining table.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 14 2010 02:17 GMT
#118
On December 14 2010 11:12 ERGO wrote:
This isn't really a WMD, it's a bunch of shit uranium. It's like saying a block of metal is a fully automatic rifle.

Big difference is that this can't be used for anything besides nuclear power and WMDs.

Just want everyone to realize how hard it is to turn a pile of uranium into something that will blow up.

might want to go into that more, you weren't even clear in the part you did say
Jzerg
Profile Joined October 2009
84 Posts
December 14 2010 02:17 GMT
#119
I can't believe people here just read the title of the post or the op-ed and respond like they have. Please read the actual link posted to a real report of the story.

The NY Times story (now added to the original post) says:

Although the material could not be used in its current form for a nuclear weapon or even a so-called dirty bomb, officials decided that in Iraq's unstable environment, it was important to make sure that it did not fall into the wrong hands.


Read: No WMD

and continues to say:

The yellowcake removed from Iraq - which was not the same yellowcake that President George W. Bush claimed, in a now discredited section of his 2003 State of the Union address, that Saddam was trying to purchase in Africa - could be used in an early stage of the nuclear fuel cycle.
...
The vast Tuwaitha site has been bombed repeatedly since 1981, when Israeli warplanes destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor there before it could be used to make weapons-grade uranium. American warplanes bombed the site in 1991 during the first Gulf War.


Read: This was old leftover yellowcake from Saddam's first nuclear program (which was totally bombed and shut down.) According to all the evidence we found, there was no attempt to restart the program nor to purchase additional yellowcake as asserted by Bush - and this article supports that.

Honestly, what was Saddam going to do with the leftovers from his previous endeavors (yellowcake & non-functional chemical weapons)? Flush them down the toilet? Of course we found that old leftover stuff, but that had nothing to do with any active programs or actual WMD threat.

I don't see what the 'revelation' is. The only revelation would be if we HADN'T found that stuff.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
December 14 2010 02:22 GMT
#120
oh Bush, you had me fooled all this years
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