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Wikileaks: Yellowcake Uranium in Iraq

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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:42:42
December 14 2010 00:21 GMT
#1

WikiLeaks' de facto declassification of privileged material makes it case closed: Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction -- and intended to restart his program once the heat was off.
President George W. Bush, in the 2003 State of the Union address, uttered the infamous "16 words": "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Former Ambassador Joe Wilson sprang into action and, in an op-ed piece, in effect wrote, "No, the Cheney administration sent me to investigate the allegation -- and I found it without merit."

Put aside that Wilson's CIA-employed wife, not the evil Vice President Dick Cheney -- as Wilson implied -- sent him on the African errand. Put aside that the British still stand by the intelligence on which Bush made the claim. And put aside that the anti-Bush Washington Post, in an editorial, concluded that Wilson had lied about not finding evidence to support the Iraq-in-Africa-for-uranium claim, since he told the CIA the opposite when he reported back from Africa.

Bush claimed that Iraq sought uranium, specifically "yellowcake." What is yellowcake, and why would its presence or attempted acquisition corroborate the nearly unanimous assumption that Saddam possessed WMD?

The Associated Press called yellowcake "the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment" and said that it "also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment."

"Bush and Iraq: Follow the Yellow Cake Road" headlined a euphoric Time magazine July 2003 piece -- written when the Bush administration began backtracking from the Iraq-sought-uranium-from-Africa claim. Time said no yellowcake equals no WMD equals bogus basis for war.

The article led with this ripper: "Is a fib really a fib if the teller is unaware that he is uttering an untruth? That question appears to be the basis of the White House defense, having now admitted a falsehood in President Bush's claim, in his State of the Union address, that Iraq had tried to buy uranium in Africa."

Time hoisted (the now discredited) Joe Wilson on its shoulders as The Man Who Told the Truth to Power: "Just last weekend, the man sent by the CIA to check out the Niger story broke cover and revealed that he had thoroughly debunked the allegation many months before President Bush repeated it."

Never mind that the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Wilson's report "lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal" sought by Iraq in Niger.

But ... there ... was ... yellowcake. This brings us back to WikiLeaks.

Wired magazine's contributing editor Noah Shachtman -- a nonresident fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution -- researched the 400,000 WikiLeaked documents released in October. Here's what he found:

"By late 2003, even the Bush White House's staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But WikiLeaks' newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam's toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict -- and may have brewed up their own deadly agents."

In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake. The New York Sun editorialized:

"The uranium issue is not a trivial one, because Iraq, sitting on vast oil reserves, has no peaceful need for nuclear power. ... To leave this nuclear material sitting around the Middle East in the Now the mainscream media no longer deem yellowcake -- the WMD Bush supposedly lied about -- a WMD. It was, well, old. It was degraded. It was not what we think of when we think of WMD. Really? Square that with what former Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean said in April 2004: "There were no weapons of mass destruction." MSNBC's Rachel Maddow goes even further, insisting, against the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that "Saddam Hussein was not pursuing weapons of mass destruction"!


http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2010/12/larry-elder-wikileaks-vindicates-president-george-w-bush

EDIT: SECOND SOURCE

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/world/africa/07iht-iraq.4.14301928.htm

This is freaking huge. If it was not for the invasion, Iraq would be a nuclear power with Suddam at the helm.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:24:33
December 14 2010 00:22 GMT
#2
wow usa might regain some world credit?
Malarkey817
Profile Joined June 2010
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:25:44
December 14 2010 00:24 GMT
#3
2003 just got real...
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 14 2010 00:24 GMT
#4
That puts an interesting twist on the whole wikileaks situation O_O
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
December 14 2010 00:24 GMT
#5
of course there were wmds, america was the one who gave them to iraq in the first place.

but damn, this changes everything..
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Frah
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada96 Posts
December 14 2010 00:24 GMT
#6
On December 14 2010 09:22 Coagulation wrote:
wow usa might regain some world respect?

Gives definite justification for what they did at least
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Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:37:32
December 14 2010 00:26 GMT
#7
woah what? @_@

i'm a bit confused, would welcome corrections

hmm reading it more closely, it seems they did lie about the evidence, but their suspicion was correct? That they did find yellow cakes but it wasn't top quality stuff? so there was evidence of them trying for nuclear stuff, but its not enough to tell if its for weapons or power? And they are saying theres no reason to make nuclear power if you're sitting on oil to begin with?
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
December 14 2010 00:26 GMT
#8
On December 14 2010 09:24 Plexa wrote:
That puts an interesting twist on the whole wikileaks situation O_O


Are you my twin? I uttered those EXACT words when I read it...
BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
December 14 2010 00:26 GMT
#9
mind=blown

Holy shit all these years of mocking Bill O'riely.. and..
omfghi2u2
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States831 Posts
December 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#10
On December 14 2010 09:24 Plexa wrote:
That puts an interesting twist on the whole wikileaks situation O_O


That is exactly what I was thinking.

But it makes me wonder, if the US goes out of its way this much to jail Assenge, why not go out of its way to get credibility and inform the world that Iraq HAD wmd's?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#11
On December 14 2010 09:26 BROotogy wrote:
mind=blown

Holy shit all these years of mocking Bill O'riely.. and..


Bill'O'Reily is still pretty damn stupid and ignorant, but yeah. This is a giant +1 to war supporters.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#12
LOL.

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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
December 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#13
Good thing this is just opinion!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/people/larry-elder
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#14
Isn't this news like 2 years old?
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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:43:51
December 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#15
-self nuked-
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
December 14 2010 00:29 GMT
#16
On December 14 2010 09:27 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Good thing this is just opinion!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/people/larry-elder

Did you read the article?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:41:04
December 14 2010 00:29 GMT
#17
whaaaaaaaaaat

edit: this is really hard to believe and I'm super curious about getting more info about it.
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
December 14 2010 00:29 GMT
#18
I'm not informed on the situation, but if there's anything I've learned I'm taking anyone who says 'mainstream media' with a grain of salt. Maybe I'm one part of the hivemind, but I'd rather see a 'mainstream media' report on this.
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
December 14 2010 00:30 GMT
#19
now my question is why would they cover this up.

I want to call fake but have no evidence that it is so I'll just blame it on Bush's horrible PR not to show evidence.
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 14 2010 00:30 GMT
#20
Why would they keep a lid on this if it provides justification for the entire war effort?
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