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night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
December 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#41
Kinda funny this leaks (is this new news?) when the whole julian assange thing is going down.
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Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
December 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#42
I'd call it bullshit, might as well just be some decoy who knows.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
December 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#43
This makes no sense, why the hell would Bush cover up something like this. There's obviously some facts missing in all this.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
December 14 2010 00:40 GMT
#44
On December 14 2010 09:38 poor newb wrote:
this needs more reliable sources, not a single article about this is found anywhere else on the internet


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/world/africa/07iht-iraq.4.14301928.htm
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
December 14 2010 00:40 GMT
#45
On December 14 2010 09:30 Krigwin wrote:
Why would they keep a lid on this if it provides justification for the entire war effort?

Because this isn't justification.

The article is horribly wrong... calling degraded yellowcake and chemicals that WE SOLD TO SADDAM WMDs. The article also claimed that Iraq wouldn't want nuclear power because it has oil, which is an out and out lie. Oil is pretty much their only export, and not needing to use it themselves would be a massive plus; they would have access to more foreign money.

Saddam admitted in his trial that he only pretended to have WMDs because he was afraid of Iran and he didn't expect the USA would attack.

"Derp we found chemicals in Iraq" is not evidence of a continuing WMD program. If you define chlorine as a WMD, ok, sue me I have WMDs in my house.
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
December 14 2010 00:42 GMT
#46
Hitchens fuckin called it

@teamsolid: The article mentions press coverage of the yellowcake being shipped out of Iraq in 2008. Perhaps this is a case of that dastardly Liberal Media
Kk.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 14 2010 00:42 GMT
#47
First, the article clearly states the findings as "remnants." For all intents and purposes, Iraq didn't have WMD, and finding abandoned remnants or materials isn't going to change that.

Second, it was already announced in the Duelfer Report over 5 years ago that Saddam wanted to restart his WMD program once sanctions were lifted.

So basically this news is not as dramatic as it might seem to be..
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 14 2010 00:42 GMT
#48
On December 14 2010 09:34 Grumbels wrote:
Weapons of mass destruction is just a propaganda phrase. You can deal damage with anything if you're resourceful enough, Iraq was always a threat in that regard. Just because they're a threat, it doesn't mean the invasion was justified. One of the awful things about the WMD debate was that it should have been irrelevant. It was just one more argument the Bush administration used - who knows what the actual reasons were - , so discrediting it shouldn't have meant you won the debate. Detractors of his policy always left themselves up for a fall if some chemical weapons or whatever were found. The same thing now happens with Iran, if you accept the premise that WMD -> invasion necessary, then if Iran ever is close to aquiring nuclear weapons, we should attack them. I find that ludicrous however, just to compare, the United States has enough weaponry to destroy the world 7 times over, yet it finds the time to lecture other nations about such things?

I hate to say, you seem an awful lot like someone who's conceited from the personalities of these people and take for granted the country you live in. The US doesn't want to destroy the world 7 times over. Saddam Hussein was a fascist religious nut who wanted the end of the world to come. Iran as well wants this.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
December 14 2010 00:42 GMT
#49
This title is misleading, ought be changed rlly.
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
December 14 2010 00:43 GMT
#50
Bush said on his memo that he was shocked no WMDs were found, why would he lie about such a major justification for his war?
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Apexplayer
Profile Joined September 2009
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:45:14
December 14 2010 00:43 GMT
#51
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rsol
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia117 Posts
December 14 2010 00:44 GMT
#52
How are you morons buying this? It's a goddamn opinion piece about gas weaponry left over from the gulf war and yellowcake. Neither of those things were ever contested, and neither of those things were ever used as the justification for the iraq war. This is just glenn beck nonsense
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:44:51
December 14 2010 00:44 GMT
#53
On December 14 2010 09:24 Plexa wrote:
That puts an interesting twist on the whole wikileaks situation O_O


Wikileaks isn't out to make the US government look bad no matter what. Wikileaks is out to present the truth.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
December 14 2010 00:44 GMT
#54
Well, here's an article with citations to the nuked domain of wikileaks. A source list would be easily reconstructed.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:46:25
December 14 2010 00:44 GMT
#55
This thread is unnecessary on so many levels, the title is wrong and it misinforms. The OP clearly doesn't know what he's talking about and takes it out of context completely by stating unreasonable assumptions like

This is freaking huge. If it was not for the invasion, Iraq would be a nuclear power with Suddam at the helm."

Points to consider

1.

Having yellowcake doesn't mean Iraq was pursuing WMD, it just means they want to start a nuclear program. The program isn't even necessarily active

2.

This isn't news. It might be somewhere in Wikileaks but this information has been discussed to death over two years ago

3.

It's political commentary by a far-right website who is using every opportunity to attack "mainscream" media and presenting it as news

ViruzZ
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden19 Posts
December 14 2010 00:45 GMT
#56
How is this confirmed?? The article is an opinion with NO SOURCES what-so-ever.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 14 2010 00:45 GMT
#57
On December 14 2010 09:26 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:24 Plexa wrote:
That puts an interesting twist on the whole wikileaks situation O_O


Are you my twin? I uttered those EXACT words when I read it...

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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 14 2010 00:45 GMT
#58
I think I heard about this about 2 summers ago when I was following Cameco (which I am still following.) Cameco bought all of the stuff sometime in 2006 for something like $60/pound (U3O8). Uranium had just gone through its mania phase and collapsed back to 50 or so.

I could never figure where the Ux U3O8 came from. It was just a lot, a lot of Uranium being purported shipped back from Iraq. No news site ever really covered it though. I couldn't figure out why no one bothered to check if it was really Sadaams or US just confiscated a lot of yellowcake.
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poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 00:50:00
December 14 2010 00:45 GMT
#59
On December 14 2010 09:40 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:38 poor newb wrote:
this needs more reliable sources, not a single article about this is found anywhere else on the internet


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/world/africa/07iht-iraq.4.14301928.htm


that was an article from 2008 about yellowcakes, it even specifically stated that yellowcakes are NOT WMDs. It has nothing to do with Wikileaks or WMDs

Although the material could not be used in its current form for a nuclear weapon or even a so-called dirty bomb, officials decided that in Iraq's unstable environment, it was important to make sure that it did not fall into the wrong hands.
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Zips
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
December 14 2010 00:45 GMT
#60
Did they ever find these things:[image loading]
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