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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11684854
A 10-year-old girl from Romania has given birth in southern Spain, officials in the region have said.
The girl gave birth to a daughter last week in the city of Jerez de la Frontera, said Andalucia's social affairs minister Micaela Navarro.
Officials are deciding whether the mother and her family can keep custody, Ms Navarro said.
The father of the baby is also believed to be a minor, aged 13, who is still in Romania, Spanish media have said.
"What we have to ensure is that both the mother, who in this case is a minor as well, and the baby are absolutely taken care of," said Ms Navarro.
"If they can be well cared for, they can stay with the family," she said.
The baby's grandmother, who is a Roma gypsy, was photographed in Spanish newspapers smiling outside the family's modest block of flats in the town of Lebrija, AFP reports.
Her 10-year-old daughter is reported to have moved to Spain from Romania just three weeks ago.
The woman, identified only as Olimpia, was quoted as saying that the mother was "very well, like the daughter, who is very well and very pretty".
According to the Andalucia daily, Diario de Jerez, which first reported the story, the grandmother could not understand the wide level of interest in the case as "this is the age we get married in Romania".
Woah. What?
This just blows my freaking mind, I didn't even know it was possible to give birth this young, let alone it being "normal"
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Different strokes for different folks.
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I've heard stories about girls in Africa who have babies at ten or even nine years old.
Edit: As a result of rape, though.
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She claims 10 is a normal age for getting married in Romania? Can anyone confirm this?
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The youngest mother ever was five years old or something like that. Was in south america (peru?) somewhere, dont remember all the details.
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On November 05 2010 05:19 Mastermind wrote:
She claims 10 is a normal age for getting married in Romania? Can anyone confirm this?
I doubt that its that common... but I'm sure it happens...
As for having custody? That's a totally different story... When she's 14, and starting high school, the baby will be walking and talking and about to enter kindergarten.
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On November 05 2010 05:19 Mastermind wrote:
She claims 10 is a normal age for getting married in Romania? Can anyone confirm this?
No mate thats just retarded whoever said that 
And afaik thats just some random gypsies that no1 cares of
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On November 05 2010 05:21 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:19 Mastermind wrote:
She claims 10 is a normal age for getting married in Romania? Can anyone confirm this? I doubt that its that common... but I'm sure it happens... As for having custody? That's a totally different story... When she's 14, and starting high school, the baby will be walking and talking and about to enter kindergarten.
Sounds like a reality TV show! Oh wait, this isn't in America.
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On November 05 2010 05:19 Eatme wrote:
The youngest mother ever was five years old or something like that. Was in south america (peru?) somewhere, dont remember all the details.
Yeah this is true. 5 years + 7 months to be exact.
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I didnt think it was biologically impossible for a girl to become pregnant at that age. I know girls mature faster than guys but that's a little fast.
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Romanian by nationality, not ethnicity. This kind of creepy stuff is normal for gypsies....
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well, weirder things have happened (there's a wikipedia page about very young mothers, from the age of 5 and up). There even has been a person who was a granny on her 18th. It's still bizarre though.
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How the hell did a 5 year old have a baby? Was it raped? what happened?
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On November 05 2010 05:24 Gogleion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:19 Eatme wrote:
The youngest mother ever was five years old or something like that. Was in south america (peru?) somewhere, dont remember all the details. Yeah this is true. 5 years + 7 months to be exact.
That means she became pregnant before she turned five. Ugh disturbing to say the least.
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On November 05 2010 05:27 theinvisiblePLER wrote:
How the hell did a 5 year old have a baby? Was it raped? what happened?
This post bothers me;;;
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Awesome, anyone wanna move to Rromania NOW ?
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seems like the pedobear decided to settle down and have a family
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On November 05 2010 05:27 theinvisiblePLER wrote:
How the hell did a 5 year old have a baby? Was it raped? what happened?
It?
On November 05 2010 05:27 Eatme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:24 Gogleion wrote:On November 05 2010 05:19 Eatme wrote:
The youngest mother ever was five years old or something like that. Was in south america (peru?) somewhere, dont remember all the details. Yeah this is true. 5 years + 7 months to be exact. That means she became pregnant before she turned five. Ugh disturbing to say the least.
Maybe the baby was really premature.
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On November 05 2010 05:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:27 theinvisiblePLER wrote:
How the hell did a 5 year old have a baby? Was it raped? what happened? This post bothers me;;;
You act like I know the whole story. Oblv someone fucked the poor baby but was it some kind of tradition to the indians of Peru or something? wtf?????
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So disturbing.
I've seen documentaries on Romanian gypsies before but never saw anything like this. It just showed them committing crime, harassing people, having weird arranged marriages, scamming people at ATM's etc etc .. girls that young having babies... That's scary.
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God, what a shitty thing to have to go through at ten years old. I'm hoping that this girl and her baby are well-supported by their family. = /
+ Show Spoiler +Off topic, but it bugs me when people toss around the term "Gypsy" like it means nothing. Keep in mind that "Gypsy" is in fact a racial slur; the proper term for these people is "Romany".
Maybe I'm just overly anal, but "Gypsy" has the same sort of connotations that "nigger" might hold, so it's generally not a great word to use. Stick with "Romany".
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On November 05 2010 05:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:27 theinvisiblePLER wrote:
How the hell did a 5 year old have a baby? Was it raped? what happened? This post bothers me;;;
lol I agree. Nah obviously the 5 year old gave consent to have sex. ROFL
On a serious note... 10 years old is way too young to be having sex. A 10 year old is way too immature to handle the possible pregnancy chance if they're zooming through puberty.
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I just instantly knew she had to be gypsy.
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This is a gipsy , not Romanian .
They are indians or something , they should not be called romanians , that's just a shame for me as a native romanian , we are ppl not animals , how can you procreate a kid at this age , what care had those parents had taken of those kids ?
That's just stupid and kinda standard for a gipsy even if it appears animalic and indecent for the rest of us .
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On November 05 2010 05:35 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
This is a gipsy , not Romanian .
They are indians or something , they should not be called romanians , that's just a shame for me as a native romanian , we are ppl not animals , how can you procreate a kid at this age , what care had those parents had taken of those kids ?
That's just stupid and kinda standard for a gipsy even if it appears animalic and indecent for the rest of us .
What is the real difference that makes a Gypsy stand out?
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honestly...why are romanians so racist towards gypies? ive never heard them say anything positive towards them.
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On November 05 2010 05:34 Silentness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:On November 05 2010 05:27 theinvisiblePLER wrote:
How the hell did a 5 year old have a baby? Was it raped? what happened? This post bothers me;;; lol I agree. Nah obviously the 5 year old gave consent to have sex. ROFL On a serious note... 10 years old is way too young to be having sex. A 10 year old is way too immature to handle the possible pregnancy chance if they're zooming through puberty.
look at my last post on page 1
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On November 05 2010 05:33 Aeres wrote:God, what a shitty thing to have to go through at ten years old. I'm hoping that this girl and her baby are well-supported by their family. = / + Show Spoiler +Off topic, but it bugs me when people toss around the term "Gypsy" like it means nothing. Keep in mind that "Gypsy" is in fact a racial slur; the proper term for these people is "Romany".
Maybe I'm just overly anal, but "Gypsy" has the same sort of connotations that "nigger" might hold, so it's generally not a great word to use. Stick with "Romany".
What about "Roma?" That's what one of my high school teachers taught me to say.
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On November 05 2010 05:21 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:19 Mastermind wrote:
She claims 10 is a normal age for getting married in Romania? Can anyone confirm this? I doubt that its that common... but I'm sure it happens... As for having custody? That's a totally different story... When she's 14, and starting high school, the baby will be walking and talking and about to enter kindergarten.
Well she's a gypsy...
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It's not like we need any Romanians to comment in this thread or anything, I mean, I'm not being sarcastic or anything...
On Topic:
Well what should I/my friends call the 20-odd people begging on the street that you see every time you commute, who all arrived after the shengen zone was expanded to Switzerland and are all dark-skinned, black haired, short and of the same ethnicity?
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A ten year old is obviously not mature enough to raise a child, but I think Americans are a bit uptight about age in regards to sexuality in general. I suppose this sort of thing isn't uncommon in some cultures though. It is what it is.
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On November 05 2010 05:30 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:27 theinvisiblePLER wrote:
How the hell did a 5 year old have a baby? Was it raped? what happened? It? Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:27 Eatme wrote:On November 05 2010 05:24 Gogleion wrote:On November 05 2010 05:19 Eatme wrote:
The youngest mother ever was five years old or something like that. Was in south america (peru?) somewhere, dont remember all the details. Yeah this is true. 5 years + 7 months to be exact. That means she became pregnant before she turned five. Ugh disturbing to say the least. Maybe the baby was really premature.
Really premature...like 15years premature.
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Thats pretty disgusting.. 5 years old?!
what's the world coming to 
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On November 05 2010 05:37 koOl wrote:
honestly...why are romanians so racist towards gypies? ive never heard them say anything positive towards them.
Let's just say the gypsy culture is a strange one and leave out at that.
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omg, I didn't even know 10 year old children had any idea what sex is  I didn't at least until I was 15 ( lol )
I think this is sad news, I don't really see any ways the little girl can take care of the child, and if the grandmother is a gypsy, it becomes even worst....
Good Luck little girl!
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On November 05 2010 05:42 Easy772 wrote:Thats pretty disgusting.. 5 years old?! what's the world coming to
If anything attitudes toward child/adolescent sexuality have become more negative recently. It wouldn't have been too uncommon to see girls around 12-13 being married off in the first class western world a few hundred years ago.
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On November 05 2010 05:27 Eatme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:24 Gogleion wrote:On November 05 2010 05:19 Eatme wrote:
The youngest mother ever was five years old or something like that. Was in south america (peru?) somewhere, dont remember all the details. Yeah this is true. 5 years + 7 months to be exact. That means she became pregnant before she turned five. Ugh disturbing to say the least.
twists my mind
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On November 05 2010 05:43 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:37 koOl wrote:
honestly...why are romanians so racist towards gypies? ive never heard them say anything positive towards them. Let's just say the gypsy culture is a strange one and leave out at that.
yes...thats what happens when people are forced into isolated ghettos
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Gypsies normally marry at the age of 13-14 but ofcourse they can marry younger, but that's not something surprising or new for people who have to live with gypsies.
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Is easy , romanians are white , gispys are black or kinda coffey collored skin
They are not civilised !
Even if Romania is a poor country and romanians are working on other country for more money and steal or other illegall stuff , there is a difference between a civilised romanian thief , that is an outlaw , and a gipsy that gives birth of a child at 10 years old .. that's so bad , is like in the begining of the civilisation ..
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Roma gypsies are the most fucked up people in the world. I might get banned for 'racism', but I have personal, first hand experience with quite a few of them, and it's never been pleasant. Once a girl reaches the age of 10 (maybe 12 or 13, but very, very young) they become eligible for marriage. You have to buy her from her parents though. Her price depends on her looks, and skills. Particularly as a thief. If she's a good thief, she can make you several thousand euros (or dollars, as I'm sure they've spread to the US as well by now) a day by robbing people at ATM's. Since they're minors, they can't be prosecuted and can do this all day long. This is acceptable practice in their culture. Men don't work, they have their women work for them. Stealing and prostitution. If you're a Roma male, and you have a job, you're considered a loser. The 'Roma problem' is huge in southern Europe, particularly Spain and Italy, but they're everywhere.
I used to work part time in a store and what they'd do is send in waves of their children, and make them steal whatever they could get their hands on while the women distracted the employees. Stealing is part of their cultural identity. They are thieves and parasites and apparently proud of it. Most of them send some of their earnings back to Romania where they build hideous, giant houses on dirt roads that they drive their Mercedes' and BMW's on. A truly ridiculous sight.
An acquaintance of mine is a Roma gypsie, and when he was 17 years old he 'imported' a 13 year old Roma girl from Romania that he paid for with money he made doing burglaries. The following year she gave birth to their son.
Hitler wasn't particularly fond of the gypsies and he exterminated quite a few of them. There weren't many left after the war, but through rapid inbreeding on a massive scale they've managed to up their numbers and are now as abundant as ever. It is no surprise to me that a 10 year old Roma gypsie gave birth. I'm sure it's happened before.
If you're interested in the scourge known as the Roma gypsies, watch BBC This World: Gypsy Child Thieves.
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Borat wouldn't like this.
gypsies..
Well, I think it's gross, but if the woman's body @ 10 can actually produce a health baby, that's rather remarkable too.
by the time this kid is 15, her mother will be 25. Crazy....
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On November 05 2010 05:50 HalfAmazing wrote:
Got to agree with your posts. This shit is awful in Bosnia where the gypsies will attack/stab you for your money :/.
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On November 05 2010 05:50 HalfAmazing wrote:
Roma gypsies are the most fucked up people in the world. I might get banned for 'racism', but I have personal, first hand experience with quite a few of them, and it's never been pleasant. Once a girl reaches the age of 10 (maybe 12 or 13, but very, very young) they become eligible for marriage. You have to buy her from her parents though. Her price depends on her looks, and skills. Particularly as a thief. If she's a good thief, she can make you several thousand euros (or dollars, as I'm sure they've spread to the US as well by now) a day by robbing people at ATM's. Since they're minors, they can't be prosecuted and can do this all day long. This is acceptable practice in their culture. Men don't work, they have their women work for them. Stealing and prostitution. If you're a Roma male, and you have a job, you're considered a loser. The 'Roma problem' is huge in southern Europe, particularly Spain and Italy, but they're everywhere.
I used to work part time in a store and what they'd do is send in waves of their children, and make them steal whatever they could get their hands on while the women distracted the employees. Stealing is part of their cultural identity. They are thieves and parasites and apparently proud of it. Most of them send some of their earnings back to Romania where they build hideous, giant houses on dirt roads that they drive their Mercedes' and BMW's on. A truly ridiculous sight.
An acquaintance of mine is a Roma gypsie, and when he was 17 years old he 'imported' a 13 year old Roma girl from Romania that he paid for with money he made doing burglaries. The following year she gave birth to their son.
Hitler wasn't particularly fond of the gypsies and he exterminated quite a few of them. There weren't many left after the war, but through rapid inbreeding on a massive scale they've managed to up their numbers and are now as abundant as ever. It is no surprise to me that a 10 year old Roma gypsie gave birth. I'm sure it's happened before.
If you're interested in the scourge known as the Roma gypsies, watch BBC This World: Gypsy Child Thieves.
well lets see here...whena segment of society has been discriminated against for so long and blocked off thats what happens to people. my background is Romani and no we are not all theives...our people were isolated and were exterminated. if u said thats jews were the scourge of society no one would except that. however it seems completely okay to say we are?
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On November 05 2010 05:14 Fruscainte wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11684854Show nested quote +A 10-year-old girl from Romania has given birth in southern Spain, officials in the region have said.
The girl gave birth to a daughter last week in the city of Jerez de la Frontera, said Andalucia's social affairs minister Micaela Navarro.
Officials are deciding whether the mother and her family can keep custody, Ms Navarro said.
The father of the baby is also believed to be a minor, aged 13, who is still in Romania, Spanish media have said.
"What we have to ensure is that both the mother, who in this case is a minor as well, and the baby are absolutely taken care of," said Ms Navarro.
"If they can be well cared for, they can stay with the family," she said.
The baby's grandmother, who is a Roma gypsy, was photographed in Spanish newspapers smiling outside the family's modest block of flats in the town of Lebrija, AFP reports.
Her 10-year-old daughter is reported to have moved to Spain from Romania just three weeks ago.
The woman, identified only as Olimpia, was quoted as saying that the mother was "very well, like the daughter, who is very well and very pretty".
According to the Andalucia daily, Diario de Jerez, which first reported the story, the grandmother could not understand the wide level of interest in the case as "this is the age we get married in Romania". Woah. What? This just blows my freaking mind, I didn't even know it was possible to give birth this young, let alone it being "normal"
there have been records of 6 year old girls giving birth, it is amazing how the human body works
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On November 05 2010 05:53 RefusedAmen wrote:
Well, I think it's gross, but if the woman's body @ 10 can actually produce a health baby, that's rather remarkable too.
I believe it's scientifically verified that the average age children reach sexual maturity (physically) has been getting younger and younger. There are competing theories for explaining why this is.
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sick stuff.
btw a question: several times in this thread u guys have mentioned the word "ATM". what does it stand for? i couldnt find it on wikipedia nor on google?
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On November 05 2010 05:50 HalfAmazing wrote:
Roma gypsies are the most fucked up people in the world. I might get banned for 'racism', but I have personal, first hand experience with quite a few of them, and it's never been pleasant. Once a girl reaches the age of 10 (maybe 12 or 13, but very, very young) they become eligible for marriage. You have to buy her from her parents though. Her price depends on her looks, and skills. Particularly as a thief. If she's a good thief, she can make you several thousand euros (or dollars, as I'm sure they've spread to the US as well by now) a day by robbing people at ATM's. Since they're minors, they can't be prosecuted and can do this all day long. This is acceptable practice in their culture. Men don't work, they have their women work for them. Stealing and prostitution. If you're a Roma male, and you have a job, you're considered a loser. The 'Roma problem' is huge in southern Europe, particularly Spain and Italy, but they're everywhere.
I used to work part time in a store and what they'd do is send in waves of their children, and make them steal whatever they could get their hands on while the women distracted the employees. Stealing is part of their cultural identity. They are thieves and parasites and apparently proud of it. Most of them send some of their earnings back to Romania where they build hideous, giant houses on dirt roads that they drive their Mercedes' and BMW's on. A truly ridiculous sight.
An acquaintance of mine is a Roma gypsie, and when he was 17 years old he 'imported' a 13 year old Roma girl from Romania that he paid for with money he made doing burglaries. The following year she gave birth to their son.
Hitler wasn't particularly fond of the gypsies and he exterminated quite a few of them. There weren't many left after the war, but through rapid inbreeding on a massive scale they've managed to up their numbers and are now as abundant as ever. It is no surprise to me that a 10 year old Roma gypsie gave birth. I'm sure it's happened before.
If you're interested in the scourge known as the Roma gypsies, watch BBC This World: Gypsy Child Thieves.
Are you serious? Why was Europe pissed when France started deporting them then?
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reminds me of "brave new world" or i think thats what its called
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On November 05 2010 05:57 Black Gun wrote:
sick stuff.
btw a question: several times in this thread u guys have mentioned the word "ATM". what does it stand for? i couldnt find it on wikipedia nor on google? ATM either is meant as "at the moment" or they are speaking about an ATM machine that you withdrawal money from
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On November 05 2010 05:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:50 HalfAmazing wrote:
Roma gypsies are the most fucked up people in the world. I might get banned for 'racism', but I have personal, first hand experience with quite a few of them, and it's never been pleasant. Once a girl reaches the age of 10 (maybe 12 or 13, but very, very young) they become eligible for marriage. You have to buy her from her parents though. Her price depends on her looks, and skills. Particularly as a thief. If she's a good thief, she can make you several thousand euros (or dollars, as I'm sure they've spread to the US as well by now) a day by robbing people at ATM's. Since they're minors, they can't be prosecuted and can do this all day long. This is acceptable practice in their culture. Men don't work, they have their women work for them. Stealing and prostitution. If you're a Roma male, and you have a job, you're considered a loser. The 'Roma problem' is huge in southern Europe, particularly Spain and Italy, but they're everywhere.
I used to work part time in a store and what they'd do is send in waves of their children, and make them steal whatever they could get their hands on while the women distracted the employees. Stealing is part of their cultural identity. They are thieves and parasites and apparently proud of it. Most of them send some of their earnings back to Romania where they build hideous, giant houses on dirt roads that they drive their Mercedes' and BMW's on. A truly ridiculous sight.
An acquaintance of mine is a Roma gypsie, and when he was 17 years old he 'imported' a 13 year old Roma girl from Romania that he paid for with money he made doing burglaries. The following year she gave birth to their son.
Hitler wasn't particularly fond of the gypsies and he exterminated quite a few of them. There weren't many left after the war, but through rapid inbreeding on a massive scale they've managed to up their numbers and are now as abundant as ever. It is no surprise to me that a 10 year old Roma gypsie gave birth. I'm sure it's happened before.
If you're interested in the scourge known as the Roma gypsies, watch BBC This World: Gypsy Child Thieves. Are you serious? Why was Europe pissed when France started deporting them then?
because every1 wants to get rid of them. the country which kicks them out first will probably get rid of them, which then causes them to move to other countries.
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On November 05 2010 05:30 Ferrose wrote:
Maybe the baby was really premature.
Really premature? ... like 20 years premature.
IMO this thread is disgusting and should be closed.
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On November 05 2010 05:58 Nazarid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 05:57 Black Gun wrote:
sick stuff.
btw a question: several times in this thread u guys have mentioned the word "ATM". what does it stand for? i couldnt find it on wikipedia nor on google? ATM either is meant as "at the moment" or they are speaking about an ATM machine that you withdrawal money from
Uh, you probably should also mention that it stands for Automatic Teller Machine.
ATM's are a prime place for mugging people or trying to steal money from them for obvious reasons.
edit: anyway, this is actually nothing special and I think the thread has already run its course.
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