EPT[H] TvP: How do I counter High Templars? - Page 4
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japro
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Not saying Maka is a bad player , because he's absolutely not, but that game he just didnt play to his full potential. Back to HuK, who I really like and who I think is a great and solid player, but he's not exactly a PvT specialist to be honest. I've never played against SeleCt so I can't judge about him and I also play either fast expo or 3 rax pressure builds to be ahead and screw Protoss early game, but sometimes 1 mistake costs you the games, yes, even as Terran. On September 24 2010 06:58 -StrifeX- wrote: I don't see naurto placing too high in tournaments. I would say that HuK, Morrow, Idra, Dimaga, Demuslism, and other gamers that you guys watch replays of, is probably better to learn from or find out things from. Yes, I don't place really high at lots of tourneys. I'm plainly worse than MorroW, IdrA, DIMAGA or DemusliM, but those are one of the best players in the world. HuK does well too, but last tourney I beat him to meet MorroW in the finals. I also have lots of top 4 results or top 8 in cups. And sometimes I have to WORK because some people forget that not all of us play as full time pros Edit: I met HuK also in person and have him on my friendlist so.. if you read this HuK, its not talking shit about you, just my opinion and no hate ;O! I also think US Terrans are not as good as EU Terrans. | ||
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inGen.
United States6 Posts
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:30 whoopadeedoo wrote: Basically, everyone not in the US thinks they're better than the US. But that's pretty much true about everything. I never said US is like completely shit or anything. I just think the Terrans and Protoss are slightly better, with some exceptions. You act like I'm saying the whole US server is terrible.. :x | ||
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:41 whoopadeedoo wrote: You have a nasty habit of changing your positions within this thread alone. Previously, you said EU toss players were "A LOT" better. Now it's slightly? You really weigh my words.. don't you?-_- Well I'm out of here, just tried to help OP and explain the problems he could encounter, but everyone in here knows better :-) | ||
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:04 Mrbustanut wrote: EU went with a one gas build in WWII though so they were not able to tech as hard as America. Additionally with the map imba of being protected by the ocean America was able to fast expand and win the macro war by being able to produce more units. Didn't germany have like vastly superior tech to other countries for most of WWII? Atleast they had the longest range rockets, the first jet fighter planes etc etc. | ||
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:52 Rabbitmaster wrote: Didn't germany have like vastly superior tech to other countries for most of WWII? Atleast they had the longest range rockets, the first jet fighter planes etc etc. The truth of the matter is the US cheesed their way to victory. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:53 whoopadeedoo wrote: The truth of the matter is the US cheesed their way to victory. Indeed. | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
The thread kind of turned to flaming over pro level games, but at your level (I'm around there too) better micro and map awareness will go a long way. Oh, and never build thors in tvp  | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
now i think zerg was up (dunno about now post-patch) and western protoss are up or koreans p (and t too) are op ... | ||
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Cashout
115 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:53 whoopadeedoo wrote: The truth of the matter is the US cheesed their way to victory. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Mrbustanut
121 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:52 Rabbitmaster wrote: Didn't germany have like vastly superior tech to other countries for most of WWII? Atleast they had the longest range rockets, the first jet fighter planes etc etc. Well Germany started the game much earlier and had already built up their tech. The US was behind in the food count at the start and had to play catchup. Japan tried to cheese the US at pearl but could not sustain the attack and eventually had to GG from the multiple nuclear launches detected events. | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:59 Mrbustanut wrote: Well Germany started the game much earlier and had already built up their tech. The US was behind in the food count at the start and had to play catchup. Japan tried to cheese the US at pearl but could not sustain the attack and eventually had to GG from the multiple nuclear launches detected events. This is the first time I ever loled @ tl forum ... thanks | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3721 Posts
But Naruto has a point. It can be difficult to EMP all the temps against a competant toss player. Usually, a good protoss will be very careful with his temps. @ the person who said storm had 5 range, its actually 9. So, its not that protoss has some imbal power over terran, but its just difficult. Does anyone else think its lame that emp is on the ghost? IMO it should be on the raven, and hunter seeker missile should be on the ghost. Sorry to derail. | ||
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
On September 24 2010 08:19 DyEnasTy wrote: Its been awhile since ive seen a bunch of probes, scv's, and drones argue with a higher posting veteran. Didnt side with anyone in particular till I looked at the newer players join date. Its almost as bad as reading the battle.net forums, where 1 or 2 good players get overwhelmed by a swarm of Command and Conquer champions. But Naruto has a point. It can be difficult to EMP all the temps against a competant toss player. Usually, a good protoss will be very careful with his temps. @ the person who said storm had 5 range, its actually 9. So, its not that protoss has some imbal power over terran, but its just difficult. Does anyone else think its lame that emp is on the ghost? IMO it should be on the raven, and hunter seeker missile should be on the ghost. Sorry to derail. Psi storms range was 9 in BW. It started out in SC2 the same but was seriously nerfed (including the AoE radius and damage assignment ... it was very OP in early beta). It's not 9 anymore AFAIK (and from experience with it), and I think I'm right in that it's now 6, but maybe it's 5. At no time did I question Naruto's skill, although at 1500pt diamond, he's not really a top pro, no offense intended (there are a bunch of non-pros here above that). It's what he says that are highly dubious (to put it kindly). Don't fall for the logical fallacy of appealing to authority (his authority, btw, is highly suspect ... saying you live and play with a top pro does not make you a top pro). | ||
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