On September 24 2010 06:35 Mrbustanut wrote:
Wow, enough Euro elitism?
Totally ridiculous statement as well.
Wow, enough Euro elitism?
Totally ridiculous statement as well.
How so. Name good Protoss players from US.
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:35 Mrbustanut wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2010 06:05 G.s)NarutO wrote: I'm speaking of Mid or Lategame, where Protoss has 3/4 bases. I'm not exactly sure how good US Protoss are, but the ones I know are not good at all. HuK + KiWiKaKi are good/decent but EU Protoss are a LOT better in every aspect would be my call. Wow, enough Euro elitism? Totally ridiculous statement as well. How so. Name good Protoss players from US. | ||
Blyadischa
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
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PatouPower
Canada1119 Posts
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Celadan
Norway471 Posts
Marauders can take a couple of storms before they go down so all in all Terrans are not disadvantaged | ||
MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
Anyway, comparing United States to Europe is like comparing which minor league team is better. PvT seems pretty even in Korea. But then again, I guess Korea has some shitty Protoss players compared to European players as well. Tester? Who the hell is that. NEXGenius? More like NEXProxyRax. | ||
Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:41 G.s)NarutO wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2010 06:35 Mrbustanut wrote: On September 24 2010 06:05 G.s)NarutO wrote: I'm speaking of Mid or Lategame, where Protoss has 3/4 bases. I'm not exactly sure how good US Protoss are, but the ones I know are not good at all. HuK + KiWiKaKi are good/decent but EU Protoss are a LOT better in every aspect would be my call. Wow, enough Euro elitism? Totally ridiculous statement as well. How so. Name good Protoss players from US. If you don't think Huk is an amazing protos player I don't think it's possible to convince you. You make it sound like there are 20-30 protos players in Europe that Huk can't touch. | ||
afirlortwo
United States161 Posts
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BasementCat
Canada155 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:50 Fraidnot wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2010 06:41 G.s)NarutO wrote: On September 24 2010 06:35 Mrbustanut wrote: On September 24 2010 06:05 G.s)NarutO wrote: I'm speaking of Mid or Lategame, where Protoss has 3/4 bases. I'm not exactly sure how good US Protoss are, but the ones I know are not good at all. HuK + KiWiKaKi are good/decent but EU Protoss are a LOT better in every aspect would be my call. Wow, enough Euro elitism? Totally ridiculous statement as well. How so. Name good Protoss players from US. If you don't think Huk is an amazing protos player I don't think it's possible to convince you. You make it sound like there are 20-30 protos players in Europe that Huk can't touch. Technically HuK is Canadian, but he is part of the NA server. It all depends on whether naruto was talking about US the country or US the server... Regardless, I believe that HuK is one of the best protoss in the world. Him and SeleCT constantly jump between first and second place in the world. Plus, HuK has the second highest win percentage in the world (behind dimuslim). Relevant to thread: Someone should ask top 10 terrans what they do in this situation. | ||
-StrifeX-
United States529 Posts
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olias
United Kingdom61 Posts
You are sadly sadly mistaken if you think the second world war was the US vs europe. That is tragic if it is the level of education in America. EU tech was superior for most of the war as well... | ||
Mrbustanut
121 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:59 olias wrote: Woa now MayorITC, You are sadly sadly mistaken if you think the second world war was the US vs europe. That is tragic if it is the level of education in America. EU tech was superior for most of the war as well... EU went with a one gas build in WWII though so they were not able to tech as hard as America. Additionally with the map imba of being protected by the ocean America was able to fast expand and win the macro war by being able to produce more units. | ||
whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:59 olias wrote: Woa now MayorITC, You are sadly sadly mistaken if you think the second world war was the US vs europe. That is tragic if it is the level of education in America. EU tech was superior for most of the war as well... MayorITC is Korean and a Korean elitest. | ||
thelok
31 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:04 Mrbustanut wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2010 06:59 olias wrote: Woa now MayorITC, You are sadly sadly mistaken if you think the second world war was the US vs europe. That is tragic if it is the level of education in America. EU tech was superior for most of the war as well... EU went with a one gas build in WWII though so they were not able to tech as hard as America. Additionally with the map imba of being protected by the ocean America was able to fast expand and win the macro war by being able to produce more units. LOL @ map imba Anyways, you said it yourself, ghosts counter HT. But HT also counter ghosts. It comes down to who can micro and positioning. | ||
Troy47
United States60 Posts
As you guys have indicated, the issue is high templar and feedback/storm. I find most players at my level don't really use feedback, focusing more on spamming 4-6 storms on my main when there's that inevitable 100-125 supply main battle clash around 15-20 minutes into most TvP games. I get that ghosts emp should be a counter, I think I will try out hte flanking approach mentioned above. My main issue is if you don't flank, your ghosts are going to get hit by that storm too. So while ya the storms dont kill anything by itself, it prevents my army from being able to win. Most times it'll be a narrow draw, or he'll emerge with his HT and several stalkers or otherwise still intact. When you then play that battle out 1 or 2 more times as he pushes towards me, he'll get the critical edge and be into my base. I'm not saying its OP or anything, this is more just a thread about how to counter it, because it's really the only Protoss strategy that I don't think I understand the best counter for. Hence the [h] in the title ![]() | ||
Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:56 yourDaddy wrote: Technically HuK is Canadian, but he is part of the NA server. It all depends on whether naruto was talking about US the country or US the server... Yeah, but most us Americans tend to think of Canada in the same way that we think about Nebraska or Vermont. For my part I see no difference between an American and a Canadian . | ||
PaPoolee
United Arab Emirates660 Posts
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darkwing.Huzow
United States35 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:04 Mrbustanut wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2010 06:59 olias wrote: Woa now MayorITC, You are sadly sadly mistaken if you think the second world war was the US vs europe. That is tragic if it is the level of education in America. EU tech was superior for most of the war as well... EU went with a one gas build in WWII though so they were not able to tech as hard as America. Additionally with the map imba of being protected by the ocean America was able to fast expand and win the macro war by being able to produce more units. LOL I just registered on TL after stalking it for a while just so I could reply to this post. Good stuff... | ||
Slago
Canada726 Posts
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:24 whoopadeedoo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2010 06:22 G.s)NarutO wrote: I think Low Level , Mid and High Level PvT are all completely different and with different difficulties / problems. So there's no point in discussing on different levels. I don't know your level I'm just saying that on my level, I'm running into quiet some problems and I'm not able to completely walk over any Protoss with simple scouting ;-) Ok, but it's not because HT > Ghosts. Let's be intellectually honest: it's the other way around (on just about every aspect). Except ghosts can't be warped in anywhere... and cost 100 minerals more. Sure, your tech cost most, but 2-3 ghosts and we've matched and passed in minerals. Maurader drops are ridiculously strong. Try it it works. Like only 1-2 medivacs. Only maurarder drops I ever use is 8 with 2 medivacs, I feel 4 is just a shock and harass. 8 definitly take out probes and definitly take out nexus. Cost a lot, but works well. Why do NO protoss players ever do a 2 templer 2 zealot drop on scvs anymore? It died in BW yet the one guy who did it do me wrecked me BIG time because he out expoed, upgraded, and produced me by taking out my econ every few minutes. He'd have a warp prism in my base to warm 4-8 zeals, storm drop my expo, and well thats all she wrote. I'm not saying ones better or not, just saying we pay a LOT for a ghost. | ||
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