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On August 10 2010 15:20 byobong7 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 15:03 Ownos wrote:On August 10 2010 02:13 NilRecurring wrote:On August 10 2010 01:04 Fantistic wrote:
Has that Ownage guy been banned yet? Yeah, Ownage aka rolle3k has been banned. Apperently Blizzard refrains from its Wave-Banning policy, if only enough people report the hacker, and his hacking is obvious enough. rolle3kBe aware, people will report you if you use and Blizzard will actually take a look at the reported players. I've witnessed it myself when I was abusing another exploit. :p 2010/8/6 <BillingEU@blizzard.com> Account Name: rolle3k@googlemail.com Category of Violation: Extreme Exploitation Details: Use of 3rd Party Programs to Obtain an unfair advantage over other players Account Action: Closure Greetings, We are sending you this email to inform you that the actions detailed above have been deemed inappropriate for StarCraft II and that this account has been closed. If you wish to review our current Rules and Policies, they can be found at: http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article/SC2policies You can also find further information on the different levels of account penalty we can apply at: http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article/sc2_account_penalties Please do not reply to this email as you will receive an automated response. If you have any further enquiries regarding your account status, please use the web form at the following address: https://eu.blizzard.com/support/webform.xml?locale=en_GB&selection=StarcraftII When using the webform, choose the options ‘Account Suspension Inquiry’, then ‘Account Closure’. Regards, Game Master Team Blizzard Europe Btw, some hackers on the same board claim, that warden isn't even active yet, for SCII. Dunno if thats true, though. I swear some of you are stuck in 1998. Blizzard hasn't done "wave banning" in forever. I don't think they ever banned in "waves." Seems more like they are bragging about the total number of bans they doled out till then. Like how they brag about WoW subs. Why would they wait until a certain time to mass ban? You are wrong, they constantly would ban in waves when bots in WoW were a real problem. At the hight of Gliders use for WoW blizzard would wait weeks and ban hundreds of them at a time and if you went to the Glider forums you would see them post in waves about bannings.
If you say so. I certainly didn't hear about it. Or Blizzard doesn't announce it to the world anymore. I clearly remember during the SC1 days they'd put that news on their front page.
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On August 09 2010 23:48 RoarMan wrote:
Unfortunately we'll have to deal with our stats getting messed up for the time being. Blizzard could individually null or void games played by the hackers but some people could lose out on some legit wins that way, and I doubt Blizzard would go through individual games, so for the time being we'll have to deal :/. I think a "Report Game" feature could be a good feature to prevent unnecessary losses due to hackers.
Hackers will get what's coming in the long run anywho.
Null and voiding games you lost due to hackers is fair. You are being rewarded in a way by that.
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guest pass is a bad idea ... hope they IP ban
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if you think you've never played against anyone that maphacked and you've played over 50 games then you're just in denial. the odds are that you have played against plenty of people who cheat especially if you're playing in diamond.
when you talk about oh it didn't look like he was hacking. what does that even mean? look 90% of people aren't fucking morons. they are going to play the games in a normal fashion but just use the extra info they have to their advantage.
you would think some of these people are flash with their game sense. i had some guy cancel a robo the other day 20 seconds after my spire went up and throw down 2 starport and go phoenix. is that enough to say he cheats? of course not but the timings are really suspicious along with the fact that there was nothing that would prompt him to make this sudden change.
ppl cheat and ppl will always cheat but hopefully if ppl start getting their accounts banned then these guys will realize that its not really worth it to lose $65.
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Arm4n, try viewing replays in first person mode. No need to suspect.
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On August 09 2010 20:22 Scottymc wrote:
This is a very simple fact -
Hacks make blizzard soo much money.
For eg - 1million starcraft 2 accounts at what us $70 each? - 5% (if that of users end up using some sort of hack) thats 50000 say 4% of those get banned - 40000. Then 25% dont rebuy the game the rest rebuy it and go again
Thats $30000 x $70 - They remake every ban wave.
If a hack came out tomorrow and they fixed it tomorrow night by banned 5 users what would be the point in a business sense.
I know i wont stop playing because 5% of people are hacking. This is evident in WoW aswell if you were around for the massive Botting Banwave - the sales of accounts went up massively the next day again.
I doubt that anywhere near 5% of people are hacking given most people who buy the game won't even touch multiplayer and of those that do, only a fraction play competitively. Most of the known disc hackers are using guest pass accounts anyway.
BTW WoW is completely different because people actually make real money from botting and selling gold.
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On August 10 2010 15:17 Kigari wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2010 19:58 HeIios wrote:
Well I'm pretty sure this is the gaming industry, I would like to hear if this has ever happened in this industry. Blizzard will purge the ladder of these idiots when they see fit. " The best graverobbers make the best gravekeepers. "
Good quote - likely true in this case.
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Just got drop hacked by a guy named EROCK. He failed a timing attack, then lagged for a bit then I got the "you were dropped screen". no lag, no countdown, internet didn't disconnect, nothing. Anyone else get this?
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i just got dropped against a guy who finds all my expansions on kulas ravine the moment i make them... so so epic. fuck this shit
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On August 10 2010 01:01 Sanguinarius wrote:
I am sure Blizzard has an anti-hack division that is hard at work.
I really hope you're right, but that seems like blind faith as Blizzard hasn't made any official mention regarding a solution.
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I've played a couple games vs. people who seemed to blindly counter my build or move units very suspiciously, however I don't consider myself an expert on anti-cheat or cheating so I cannot say with 100% certainty they were cheating, it just FELT very odd that they would do some of the things they did.
Someone had said something about game companies hiring hackers to help anti-cheat measures. There was a very famous hacker from Unreal Tournament who was hired by Epic to handle their anti-cheat efforts, I cannot recall his name but it was the most specific case I could recall
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I see it as a serious problem that Blizzard is both going to use the ladder as a means for inviting players to official Blizzcon tournaments, as well as allow hackers to mess with people's W/L ratios.
I'm not saying Blizz could handle it any better, but it is still a very serious problem.
For the casual diamond player who grinds rating for fun, it really doesn't matter. For someone who intends to play in those invite only tournaments, however, it can put a lot of money on the line.
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On August 09 2010 19:51 Baarn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2010 19:10 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Blizzard should hire one of the people making the hacks to act as an undercover. As a reward for ruining our game we'd like to hire you on.
And give you a chance to save it
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The problem is that because a ban is basically Blizzard taking money away from someone who bought the game, they have to be extremely careful. This isn't just resetting ladder scores or a temporary WoW suspension.
The longer Blizzard waits to do this, the less chargebacks there will be on credit cards, which keeps retailers happy.
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Problem is, less than 1 in a million player knows about maphack, and knows it's out there being used competitively.
Blizz is not gonna invest 1$ mill+ to satisfy that 1 in a million player, by developing anti hack. Blizz is good enough to know how to stop maphack, by not sending the data which is behind the fog of war - yet they do.
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On August 31 2010 04:40 Qzy wrote:
Problem is, less than 1 in a million player knows about maphack, and knows it's out there being used competitively.
Blizz is not gonna invest 1$ mill+ to satisfy that 1 in a million player, by developing anti hack. Blizz is good enough to know how to stop maphack, by not sending the data which is behind the fog of war - yet they do.
How ignorant do you think the starcraft community is?...
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On August 31 2010 04:40 Qzy wrote:
Problem is, less than 1 in a million player knows about maphack, and knows it's out there being used competitively.
Blizz is not gonna invest 1$ mill+ to satisfy that 1 in a million player, by developing anti hack. Blizz is good enough to know how to stop maphack, by not sending the data which is behind the fog of war - yet they do.
Source, or are you just spouting nonsense for post count?
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On August 31 2010 04:45 Creek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 04:40 Qzy wrote:
Problem is, less than 1 in a million player knows about maphack, and knows it's out there being used competitively.
Blizz is not gonna invest 1$ mill+ to satisfy that 1 in a million player, by developing anti hack. Blizz is good enough to know how to stop maphack, by not sending the data which is behind the fog of war - yet they do. How ignorant do you think the starcraft community is?...
I am mid Diamond and I have never lost a game and thought that he had to be map hacking to beat me. I am pretty well-informed and pretty good at feeling a game's normal flow, but I have a) never reported someone and b) never thought to look.
We all suck. When I lose it is probably because I am bad, whether or not he is hacking. I think I'm more concerned with getting so good the ONLY way to beat me is by maphacking. Until that point, whatever, I am bad, what is 1 loss anyways?
I think some combination of apathy and ignorance offers plenty of hacking opportunity. It is just a game, who cares if you lose once in awhile?
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Exactly. I mean, the game is ON the internet. Word spreads and the machine used to play it is also the greatest info-gathering tool man has invented.
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I'm almost positive I've been disced on more than one occasion, but map hack I am not sure. I thought so once, but didn't bother to check
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