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Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 30 2010 19:55 GMT
#61
On August 09 2010 19:55 GG.Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:51 Baarn wrote:
On August 09 2010 19:10 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Blizzard should hire one of the people making the hacks to act as an undercover.


As a reward for ruining our game we'd like to hire you on.


as the guy said, this isn't that uncommon in the security industry.


yup, even the government does this
Jonray
Profile Joined August 2010
United States37 Posts
August 30 2010 19:55 GMT
#62
On August 31 2010 04:38 fantomex wrote:
The problem is that because a ban is basically Blizzard taking money away from someone who bought the game, they have to be extremely careful. This isn't just resetting ladder scores or a temporary WoW suspension.

The longer Blizzard waits to do this, the less chargebacks there will be on credit cards, which keeps retailers happy.

Good point. It would make the most sense from a business perspective to wait until 30 days (or a bit longer) since most copies were purchased to reduce the amount of refunds they need to process.
Anything is possible, if we're willing to lose our minds to it.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 30 2010 19:56 GMT
#63
Warden isn't active as of yet.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#64
On August 10 2010 16:01 Arm4n wrote:
if you think you've never played against anyone that maphacked and you've played over 50 games then you're just in denial. the odds are that you have played against plenty of people who cheat especially if you're playing in diamond.

when you talk about oh it didn't look like he was hacking. what does that even mean? look 90% of people aren't fucking morons. they are going to play the games in a normal fashion but just use the extra info they have to their advantage.

you would think some of these people are flash with their game sense. i had some guy cancel a robo the other day 20 seconds after my spire went up and throw down 2 starport and go phoenix. is that enough to say he cheats? of course not but the timings are really suspicious along with the fact that there was nothing that would prompt him to make this sudden change.

ppl cheat and ppl will always cheat but hopefully if ppl start getting their accounts banned then these guys will realize that its not really worth it to lose $65.


lol. Out of all my losses I have never felt like I lost because he was "map hacking" or he knew what I was doing and I have played over 100 games. I honestly don't think I have played a map hacker yet they are out there and there are probably quiet a few but most aren't in the high diamond range more like low diamond.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Alterran
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden23 Posts
August 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#65
Just a question, is there maphacks for sc:bw and wc3 ?
How does blizz deal with those ?

I think it will be the same response for sc2? why would this be diffrent i mean
Competent
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
August 30 2010 19:58 GMT
#66
You will just have to accept that there is and always will be hackers, it will frustrate you less if you just accept it. Either that or go be a E superhero and create "hacks" with virus and post them somewhere. =]
Nurrrhhh, I'm gonna be A+ by Wendsday! -Day[9] "I'm going to spread out my lings so it looks like there is more. Lots of animals do that." -CatZ
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 30 2010 19:59 GMT
#67
I love people who say just make it so that the game is uncrackable. No game has achieved this yet and I doubt Blizzard will be the first. Hackers crack for the sake of cracking. If you say it is uncrackable, it will be cracked. There is nothing you can do about it. They don't care about money.

Stop confusing hacker with cheater. These people are script kiddies. They cheat with programs that someone else developed. You're insulting real hackers whose only goal is to hack the game so they can say that it can be done.
There is no one like you in the universe.
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
August 30 2010 20:14 GMT
#68
On August 09 2010 18:46 argie wrote:
Hi.

I am just wondering have any of you heard about any bans issued since SC2 launched? Especially for MapHacks.

I did some searching but I didn't find anyone banned. And probably best example is drophack which was used so much you would except quick ban but that never happened.

Are SC2 Anti-Cheat measures active?


You want to know so that you can feel more comfortable trying these hacks out eh?
Being weak is a choice.
Neuuubeh
Profile Joined July 2010
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 20:37:19
August 30 2010 20:36 GMT
#69
On August 10 2010 02:13 NilRecurring wrote:
Btw, some hackers on the same board claim, that warden isn't even active yet, for SCII. Dunno if thats true, though.


Dont listen to that anyway, people used to be saying the same stuff in wow and d2 and both times there were plenty of pissed people a few days later.

Warden has been active all along tbfh, why wouldnt it be...
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
August 30 2010 20:50 GMT
#70
On August 31 2010 04:59 vica wrote:
I love people who say just make it so that the game is uncrackable. No game has achieved this yet and I doubt Blizzard will be the first. Hackers crack for the sake of cracking. If you say it is uncrackable, it will be cracked. There is nothing you can do about it. They don't care about money.

Stop confusing hacker with cheater. These people are script kiddies. They cheat with programs that someone else developed. You're insulting real hackers whose only goal is to hack the game so they can say that it can be done.



true, we should seperate the two groups, but I'm not sure why I should treat the hackers with more respect...

it would be one thing to hack the game for their own enjoyment, then... not share it with a easy to use interface for script kiddies... I don't have an issue with these people.


however people who create hacks for other people to use, just for their own ego? Oh you're right I should totally look up and respect them... they are pilars of our community. They get an ego boost and I have to deal with bs from 1000's of idiots that could never have cheated without him.
Nanikure
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
August 30 2010 21:35 GMT
#71
Would blizzard be able to file a lawsuit against these people? Like they did to the designers of that WoW bot?
"I hate everyone and everything seems stupid to me."
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 30 2010 21:36 GMT
#72
Funny, I just got accused of hacking in a ladder match vs Artanis (who apparently posts on TL?).

Maybe some people are getting a bit overzealous with their hackey-senses.
Neuuubeh
Profile Joined July 2010
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 21:42:25
August 30 2010 21:41 GMT
#73
On August 31 2010 06:36 Jyvblamo wrote:
Funny, I just got accused of hacking in a ladder match vs Artanis (who apparently posts on TL?).

Maybe some people are getting a bit overzealous with their hackey-senses.

90-95% of all cheating accusation are coming from people who have NO IDEA how hacks in a game like this work, they just read somewhere that omg, theres hax yo.

5-10% are legitimate (probably more like 0.2%, but meh)

Go have a look at Psy's latest vid on youtube
Nilth
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy71 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 00:03:27
August 31 2010 00:02 GMT
#74
An interesting game and bonus I've just seen
Really hope blizzard will make something about it soon.

(game)

(bonus)

No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
August 31 2010 00:07 GMT
#75
On August 09 2010 19:55 GG.Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:51 Baarn wrote:
On August 09 2010 19:10 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Blizzard should hire one of the people making the hacks to act as an undercover.


As a reward for ruining our game we'd like to hire you on.


as the guy said, this isn't that uncommon in the security industry.


This is actually very uncommon in the security industry, Much like how police departments rarely hire felons. I am not aware of a single legitimate antivirus company that would ever consider hiring any one they knew had intentionally developed and deployed any type of malware.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
August 31 2010 00:09 GMT
#76
Hackers + my dropping connection + genuine loss = 50% wr

that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Snippa-
Profile Joined August 2010
United States98 Posts
August 31 2010 00:14 GMT
#77
On August 09 2010 19:46 HeIios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:10 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Blizzard should hire one of the people making the hacks to act as an undercover.


Haha yes, since nobody else at blizzard can wrap their heads around a simple maphack lets hire the person who destroys the game and give him a salary!

:D


Have you seen the movie "Catch Me If You Can"?
The CIA hires people like that. Good hackers can be easily hired by the CIA and other government agencies. So why wouldn't Blizzard do something similar?
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
August 31 2010 00:14 GMT
#78
On August 31 2010 04:40 Qzy wrote:
Blizz is good enough to know how to stop maphack, by not sending the data which is behind the fog of war - yet they do.


There are of course very legitimate performance considerations to make about only sending data that is not under fog of war. Hacking sucks but I'd rather deal with it and let the bans roll in than deal with unit pop in with every legitimate match played.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
Zegu
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada52 Posts
August 31 2010 00:20 GMT
#79
On August 09 2010 19:55 GG.Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:51 Baarn wrote:
On August 09 2010 19:10 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Blizzard should hire one of the people making the hacks to act as an undercover.


As a reward for ruining our game we'd like to hire you on.


as the guy said, this isn't that uncommon in the security industry.


yea, it is very common in the security industry, but maphacks are not on the same level as hacking through firewalls
jambam
Profile Joined June 2010
United States324 Posts
August 31 2010 00:21 GMT
#80
On August 31 2010 09:14 Snippa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:46 HeIios wrote:
On August 09 2010 19:10 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Blizzard should hire one of the people making the hacks to act as an undercover.


Haha yes, since nobody else at blizzard can wrap their heads around a simple maphack lets hire the person who destroys the game and give him a salary!

:D


Have you seen the movie "Catch Me If You Can"?
The CIA hires people like that. Good hackers can be easily hired by the CIA and other government agencies. So why wouldn't Blizzard do something similar?


Have you ever seen the latest diehard. Didnt that guy who designed the system go in later and use all it exploits? Lol fight movie logic with movie logic .

Blizz would never do this. Sorry
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