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argie
Profile Joined July 2010
Croatia31 Posts
August 09 2010 14:41 GMT
#21
LOL I am not talking about myself here. I am an average SC2 player so if I lose due to hack I couldn't care less.

I am just saying that players who are in Diamond can get their statistics broken easily if they encounter MHers.
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
August 09 2010 14:45 GMT
#22
this was anticipated. blizzard...you are not on the clock. lets see how it pans out. i was pessimistic going into beta but now from the hacker forums...i'm somewhat optimistic.
i like cheese
RoarMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada745 Posts
August 09 2010 14:48 GMT
#23
Unfortunately we'll have to deal with our stats getting messed up for the time being. Blizzard could individually null or void games played by the hackers but some people could lose out on some legit wins that way, and I doubt Blizzard would go through individual games, so for the time being we'll have to deal :/. I think a "Report Game" feature could be a good feature to prevent unnecessary losses due to hackers.

Hackers will get what's coming in the long run anywho.
All the pros got dat Ichie.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
August 09 2010 16:01 GMT
#24
I am sure Blizzard has an anti-hack division that is hard at work.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 09 2010 16:04 GMT
#25
On August 09 2010 23:48 RoarMan wrote:
Hackers will get what's coming in the long run anywho.


Well I sure hope so. Bnet 0.2 better not turn into the clusterfuck Bnet 0.1 was.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
August 09 2010 16:04 GMT
#26
Has that Ownage guy been banned yet?
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
August 09 2010 16:10 GMT
#27
Eh, it's nice to think that banwaves are the most effective way to deal with hackers, but they are actually extremely ineffective... basically, if you are a hacker, you know you will probably be banned eventually. But, you also know that Blizzard almost never bans people. So, just put aside $50-$60 every 6 months and you can hack starcraft 2 as long as you'd like.

Seriously, buying a new game every 6 months? Especially when a lot of these people go into stores and steal cd-keys without buying the game... yea, banning every 6 months to a year is not effective. Sorry.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
NilRecurring
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany13 Posts
August 09 2010 17:13 GMT
#28
On August 10 2010 01:04 Fantistic wrote:
Has that Ownage guy been banned yet?


Yeah, Ownage aka rolle3k has been banned. Apperently Blizzard refrains from its Wave-Banning policy, if only enough people report the hacker, and his hacking is obvious enough.

rolle3k
Be aware, people will report you if you use and Blizzard will actually take a look at the reported players.

I've witnessed it myself when I was abusing another exploit. :p
Show nested quote +
2010/8/6 <BillingEU@blizzard.com>

Account Name: rolle3k@googlemail.com

Category of Violation: Extreme Exploitation
Details: Use of 3rd Party Programs to Obtain an unfair advantage over other players
Account Action: Closure

Greetings,

We are sending you this email to inform you that the actions detailed above have been deemed inappropriate for StarCraft II and that this account has been closed.

If you wish to review our current Rules and Policies, they can be found at:
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Btw, some hackers on the same board claim, that warden isn't even active yet, for SCII. Dunno if thats true, though.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 09 2010 18:17 GMT
#29
On August 09 2010 18:51 Puosu wrote:
Blizzard tends to ban in waves so they can catch as many people as possible with one hack release, idiots wait out and see that they aren't banning for hack X and then start using it themselves thinking Blizzard isn't going to act. Then the hammer appears and boom a fuckton of idiots get their account taken from them.

You can be certain that Blizzard is taking their anti-cheat in SC2 very seriously, they really don't want to turn it in to another bnet 1.0 ladder as a good/legit ladder is currently the ONLY thing bnet 2.0 has over bnet 1.0.

Fixed :D

but seriously, it shouldn't really be much of an issue the way they're doing it now 'cause by banning in waves you catch more people, and also give the hack programmers less of a heads up on what patches to warden are coming up. unfortunately, no matter how you patch warden or change the configuration of bnet 2.0, there will ALWAYS be hacks. think of it this way, if someone's smart enough to program an anti-hack, there's probably someone smart enough to get around it.
juw
Profile Joined August 2010
76 Posts
August 10 2010 00:12 GMT
#30
On August 09 2010 22:55 argie wrote:

I am pointing at a FACT that cheaters (and there are plenty of those will ruin your win loss ratio + frustrate you, etc, etc 50 times before mass ban.


As I said before, the answer is to make a system where win loss ratio is meaningless, then hacks will also become meaningless. Maybe another ladder mode for "friendly" matches.


Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
August 10 2010 00:41 GMT
#31
They could make guest accounts unusable for ladder matches for a start. If they want to give them out in cereal boxes, preventing those accounts from ruining ladder would be an improvement.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
August 10 2010 05:31 GMT
#32
Maphacks are here apparently, I just played an extremely suspicious 81-41 Diamond player, not good, but he doesn't scout, blindly counters my build... goes 4 warpgate as toss and suspiciously never moves... 4 warpgate into expo! then he gets even more suspicious when I try to flank him and he blindly moves all of his units back to his choke, without seeing even 1 of my units approach...

http://www.root-gaming.com/replay/catz-vs-hacker-blistering-sands <<< there's the replay, comments, here or on root's site will be appreciated. I reported him, hopefully blizzard will take messures.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
August 10 2010 05:41 GMT
#33
On August 10 2010 09:12 juw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 22:55 argie wrote:

I am pointing at a FACT that cheaters (and there are plenty of those will ruin your win loss ratio + frustrate you, etc, etc 50 times before mass ban.


As I said before, the answer is to make a system where win loss ratio is meaningless, then hacks will also become meaningless. Maybe another ladder mode for "friendly" matches.




what fun is that. I rather have hackers and a ladder system than no hackers and no ladder system. Hackers will get banned in due time. And their punishment will be -60$ for hacking. They deserve it.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
August 10 2010 05:53 GMT
#34
Blizzard is very good at making all the hackers comfortable for even up two two months. This was prevelent in every blizzard game. Most notably the Glider detection during the november before Burning crusade was released. Banned over 150,000 wow accounts if I remember correctly. If you're cheating right now, you did not make the hack yourself, It was on a public/known private forum, It's probably already detected and you've already been added to the banlist. Sorry brah.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
August 10 2010 05:56 GMT
#35
it's not the guy who hacks the game that ruins it, it's the people who use someone else's hack and pretend theyre good.
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 10 2010 06:01 GMT
#36
On August 09 2010 18:46 argie wrote:
Hi.

I am just wondering have any of you heard about any bans issued since SC2 launched? Especially for MapHacks.

I did some searching but I didn't find anyone banned. And probably best example is drophack which was used so much you would except quick ban but that never happened.

Are SC2 Anti-Cheat measures active?


Blizzard doesn't make bans public. At least for WoW people get temp banned or perma-banned all the time. There might be the occasional person who got perma-banned for using a macro keyboard and whines about it on the forums, but that's it. They really don't like discussing it.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 10 2010 06:03 GMT
#37
On August 10 2010 02:13 NilRecurring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 01:04 Fantistic wrote:
Has that Ownage guy been banned yet?


Yeah, Ownage aka rolle3k has been banned. Apperently Blizzard refrains from its Wave-Banning policy, if only enough people report the hacker, and his hacking is obvious enough.

Show nested quote +
rolle3k
Be aware, people will report you if you use and Blizzard will actually take a look at the reported players.

I've witnessed it myself when I was abusing another exploit. :p
2010/8/6 <BillingEU@blizzard.com>

Account Name: rolle3k@googlemail.com

Category of Violation: Extreme Exploitation
Details: Use of 3rd Party Programs to Obtain an unfair advantage over other players
Account Action: Closure

Greetings,

We are sending you this email to inform you that the actions detailed above have been deemed inappropriate for StarCraft II and that this account has been closed.

If you wish to review our current Rules and Policies, they can be found at:
http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article/SC2policies

You can also find further information on the different levels of account penalty we can apply at:
http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article/sc2_account_penalties

Please do not reply to this email as you will receive an automated response. If you have any further enquiries regarding your account status, please use the web form at the following address:
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When using the webform, choose the options ‘Account Suspension Inquiry’, then ‘Account Closure’.

Regards,

Game Master Team
Blizzard Europe




Btw, some hackers on the same board claim, that warden isn't even active yet, for SCII. Dunno if thats true, though.


I swear some of you are stuck in 1998. Blizzard hasn't done "wave banning" in forever. I don't think they ever banned in "waves." Seems more like they are bragging about the total number of bans they doled out till then. Like how they brag about WoW subs. Why would they wait until a certain time to mass ban?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
August 10 2010 06:11 GMT
#38
I think a lot of people think Blizzard actually "care" that people "might" use a map hack in ladder games. Most people on this forum believe the ladder is pure silliness, and that it doesn't matter. These hacks aren't going to appear in tournaments or such like (because it would be blatently obvious, especially if you're casted) and sadly, that's the main thing.

Despite WC3 having -a lot- of map hacks readily available, hardly anyone ever got banned. Not to mention there are about 1000-2000~ 'game breaking' exploits in WoW, and whenever one commits them and gets reported: nothing happens.
Kigari
Profile Joined August 2010
Bahrain134 Posts
August 10 2010 06:17 GMT
#39
On August 09 2010 19:58 HeIios wrote:
Well I'm pretty sure this is the gaming industry, I would like to hear if this has ever happened in this industry. Blizzard will purge the ladder of these idiots when they see fit.


" The best graverobbers make the best gravekeepers. "
byobong7
Profile Joined February 2010
United States207 Posts
August 10 2010 06:20 GMT
#40
On August 10 2010 15:03 Ownos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 02:13 NilRecurring wrote:
On August 10 2010 01:04 Fantistic wrote:
Has that Ownage guy been banned yet?


Yeah, Ownage aka rolle3k has been banned. Apperently Blizzard refrains from its Wave-Banning policy, if only enough people report the hacker, and his hacking is obvious enough.

rolle3k
Be aware, people will report you if you use and Blizzard will actually take a look at the reported players.

I've witnessed it myself when I was abusing another exploit. :p
2010/8/6 <BillingEU@blizzard.com>

Account Name: rolle3k@googlemail.com

Category of Violation: Extreme Exploitation
Details: Use of 3rd Party Programs to Obtain an unfair advantage over other players
Account Action: Closure

Greetings,

We are sending you this email to inform you that the actions detailed above have been deemed inappropriate for StarCraft II and that this account has been closed.

If you wish to review our current Rules and Policies, they can be found at:
http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article/SC2policies

You can also find further information on the different levels of account penalty we can apply at:
http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article/sc2_account_penalties

Please do not reply to this email as you will receive an automated response. If you have any further enquiries regarding your account status, please use the web form at the following address:
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When using the webform, choose the options ‘Account Suspension Inquiry’, then ‘Account Closure’.

Regards,

Game Master Team
Blizzard Europe




Btw, some hackers on the same board claim, that warden isn't even active yet, for SCII. Dunno if thats true, though.


I swear some of you are stuck in 1998. Blizzard hasn't done "wave banning" in forever. I don't think they ever banned in "waves." Seems more like they are bragging about the total number of bans they doled out till then. Like how they brag about WoW subs. Why would they wait until a certain time to mass ban?


You are wrong, they constantly would ban in waves when bots in WoW were a real problem. At the hight of Gliders use for WoW blizzard would wait weeks and ban hundreds of them at a time and if
you went to the Glider forums you would see them post in waves about bannings.
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