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Hey, just out of curiosity. Out of all of you who say you still "trust" on blizzard's ability of delivering a good game and fixing all the existing issues (bugs, balance, lack of lan etc). Have any of you actually played WoW?
Because it seems to me that most of the people who know Blizzard from BW/diablo only have some really high hopes that they're still great. While people who know Blizzard from WoW seem to be pretty certain that they won't fix anything. But they'll play anyway for the same reason they play wow: there's just anything else to do.
Or at least that's the impression I get talking to friends from both games. Or am I wrong?
Personally, I'm 100% sure that there will always be many eye-glaring bugs and balance issues on sc2 that will last forever. I'm not buying the game, but I had decided that long before the beta. I'll just watch vods instead of playing just like I do for bw.
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I can buy and boycott at the same time. The deal in Russia is buy for a small price and after a year of multiplayer buy more to extend b.net subscription. It's definetely worth it's 20$ to go through single. I can boycott it later =))
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On June 08 2010 20:44 kcdc wrote:
This anti-Blizz crap is crazy. (1) You'll all buy it. It's a great game. (2) Are you really surprised that a game company wants to make money by selling games and associated products? They make great games in order to make profit. This is how business works. Companies that don't make profit can't invest the kind of resources it takes to make a game like SC2.
(1) Stop fucking telling me what I'm going to do (all of you). I won't buy it. (2) SC2 is good but there are several major issues preventing it from being great gameplay wise, imo. BNet 2 is horrible and was supposed to be an improvement. I'd rate the overall experience as 3-4 out of 10. Add to that what Blizzard has been doing to the BW esports scene lately and how they fail to even listen to us.
They do not make good games anymore. They can't ride on their past reputation forever. As it stands, BNet 2 sucks.
What surprises me is not that they want to make money off of SC2. It's the fact that they deliberately want to release a subpar product to make a bigger profit. That's not Blizzard as we know them.
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On June 08 2010 22:33 VIB wrote:
Hey, just out of curiosity. Out of all of you who say you still "trust" on blizzard's ability of delivering a good game and fixing all the existing issues (bugs, balance, lack of lan etc). Have any of you actually played WoW?
Because it seems to me that most of the people who know Blizzard from BW/diablo only have some really high hopes that they're still great. While people who know Blizzard from WoW seem to be pretty certain that they won't fix anything. But they'll play anyway for the same reason they play wow: there's just anything else to do.
Or at least that's the impression I get talking to friends from both games. Or am I wrong?
Personally, I'm 100% sure that there will always be many eye-glaring bugs and balance issues on sc2 that will last forever. I'm not buying the game, but I had decided that long before the beta. I'll just watch vods instead of playing just like I do for bw.
I've played WoW, and still mostly trust Blizzard. The vast majority of the WoW-hate is just bandwagon jumping. The game certainly has flaws, but at no point in its lifespan has it ever deserved even a fraction of the hate it gets. I honestly find most WoW-haters downright childish.
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On June 08 2010 22:30 Spawkuring wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2010 22:26 killercheebo wrote:
thing is, according to their EULA and terms of service, blizz has every intellectual right to take those great "UMS" maps and charge people money every time they download it
They also have the EULA right to ban you at anytime. Doesn't mean that they will actually do it though. The bad press would make such an action have large consequences for Blizzard. Very few EULAs are used down to the letter. For the most part they are just legal safeguards.
if uve been paying attention, u'd probably have realized they said they are considering monetizing player-created custom maps
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On June 08 2010 22:43 killercheebo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2010 22:30 Spawkuring wrote:On June 08 2010 22:26 killercheebo wrote:
thing is, according to their EULA and terms of service, blizz has every intellectual right to take those great "UMS" maps and charge people money every time they download it
They also have the EULA right to ban you at anytime. Doesn't mean that they will actually do it though. The bad press would make such an action have large consequences for Blizzard. Very few EULAs are used down to the letter. For the most part they are just legal safeguards. if uve been paying attention, u'd probably have realized they said they are considering monetizing player-created custom maps
And they said that it will be through a marketplace at the player's consent.
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What I loved about BNET 1.0 was that my friends and I would just hop on iccup, get in the same chatroom, mingle a bit, start some game either teamsies or has observers, and then after the game mingle some more. Not having chatrooms would negatively change my game experience. It's not all about playing the game. Talking to a bunch of people (friends) is a part of it as well. Not having that is a BIG deal. And not being able to play against my European friends makes me go... ehhhhh... and having no LAN makes me go bleeeehhhh.
I'll wait for when they fix 2.0 up.
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Honestly, I think the majority of people will buy it. Yes the game has it's problems (what new game in beta doesn't?!??!) I know PLENTY of other games that are MUCH worse off even AFTER release. Starcraft 2 is an amazing game. Things like Bnet 2.0, User interface, balance, etc... can all be adjusted, changed, or fixed in the future. Blizzard has always been a great company and they know what the user wants, just because a few people bitch and complain doesn't mean they will change it right away. Things will get better, honestly think about it. I am a VERY competitive RTS player and I was rank 1 Plat(when it was top) and rank 1 diamond basically all of beta. The game is developing and moving forward very quickly but even then, if all else fails, I STILL love the UMS maps which I was playing the last few days of beta which are already badass.
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I'd love to know how many of the boycott voters have the game preordered. I'm guessing at least 1/4 of them. I'd also bet that at least half of them do intend to buy the game.
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On June 08 2010 19:37 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2010 19:35 killercheebo wrote:On June 08 2010 19:33 Brad wrote:
The term boycott is so ridiculous, it's such a petulant stance. There are many people who are being turned away from SC2 and won't be buying the game. I myself included. Therefore, term boycott is the strongest and most effective way to describe this. Since I read many posts which people said they won't be buying the game, I just want to see how many people would actually go through with their statements. now ppl can say "ok i wont buy it" just to be cool fit in and feel good about themselves beacuse they go their way. but how long is it gonna take? 1 month or 1 year? blizzard knows that they will eventually just give up and guy the game, it will improve by time and i bet 90% of ppl who say this will just wait for a few patches and bnet to get alittle sharper then buy the game anyway
nope. i am officially turned off for good on sc2.
you are just conjecturing the game will improve, or they will fix bnet 0.2 but thats just wishful thinking.
blizzard lost my vote of confidence and i am done with their products after being an avid supporter from warcraft 2 up till warcraft 3.
you are just a blind supporter to a greedy corporation.
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On June 08 2010 19:37 killercheebo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2010 19:34 DarKFoRcE wrote:
The gameplay is good, so i'll buy it. I have hopes that bnet 2.0 will improve in the future. and that is how activision is misleading you. they are exploiting SC1 and blizzard's past good reputation into making fans believe that they will improve bnet 0.2, when in fact they won't. After enough units have been sold and money have been squeezed out of SC2, they will simply stop caring
Maybe thats the case, maybe not, you have no definite proof that that's how it is going to happen. Im sure that i will have lots of fun with SC2 despite the crappy bnet, so i will buy the game.
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On June 08 2010 22:49 Garaman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2010 19:37 MorroW wrote:On June 08 2010 19:35 killercheebo wrote:On June 08 2010 19:33 Brad wrote:
The term boycott is so ridiculous, it's such a petulant stance. There are many people who are being turned away from SC2 and won't be buying the game. I myself included. Therefore, term boycott is the strongest and most effective way to describe this. Since I read many posts which people said they won't be buying the game, I just want to see how many people would actually go through with their statements. now ppl can say "ok i wont buy it" just to be cool fit in and feel good about themselves beacuse they go their way. but how long is it gonna take? 1 month or 1 year? blizzard knows that they will eventually just give up and guy the game, it will improve by time and i bet 90% of ppl who say this will just wait for a few patches and bnet to get alittle sharper then buy the game anyway nope. i am officially turned off for good on sc2. you are just conjecturing the game will improve, or they will fix bnet 0.2 but thats just wishful thinking. blizzard lost my vote of confidence and i am done with their products after being an avid supporter from warcraft 2 up till warcraft 3. you are just a blind supporter to a greedy corporation.
Every single Blizzard game to date, both pre and post Activision, have been heavily supported by patches and improvements to the game. There's nothing implying that SC2 will be any different. It's not baseless conjecture when it's heavily supported by past actions. The burden of proof that they won't improve is primarily in your court.
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are you nuts, you'll buy it just like everyone else
end of thread =o
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On June 08 2010 22:47 TheNomad wrote:
Honestly, I think the majority of people will buy it. Yes the game has it's problems (what new game in beta doesn't?!??!) I know PLENTY of other games that are MUCH worse off even AFTER release. Starcraft 2 is an amazing game. Things like Bnet 2.0, User interface, balance, etc... can all be adjusted, changed, or fixed in the future. Blizzard has always been a great company and they know what the user wants, just because a few people bitch and complain doesn't mean they will change it right away. Things will get better, honestly think about it. I am a VERY competitive RTS player and I was rank 1 Plat(when it was top) and rank 1 diamond basically all of beta. The game is developing and moving forward very quickly but even then, if all else fails, I STILL love the UMS maps which I was playing the last few days of beta which are already badass.
sc2 isnt an amazing game. bw is an amazing game. bnet 2.0 is horrendous, but what incentive does blizzard have to change it when blind fans continue to buy their product (thats all they care for now, sales). you are just hoping for the best that things get better, but blizzard is taking a stance i don't agree with and am done with the franchise.
blizzard is the great company that refuses lan support, can't play singler play offline, limits your map making to 5 or wahtever.. no this is not the blizzard i know or can support.
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youre damn right ill buy it, its SC2 for gods sake
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On June 08 2010 22:33 VIB wrote:
Hey, just out of curiosity. Out of all of you who say you still "trust" on blizzard's ability of delivering a good game and fixing all the existing issues (bugs, balance, lack of lan etc). Have any of you actually played WoW?
Because it seems to me that most of the people who know Blizzard from BW/diablo only have some really high hopes that they're still great. While people who know Blizzard from WoW seem to be pretty certain that they won't fix anything. But they'll play anyway for the same reason they play wow: there's just anything else to do.
Or at least that's the impression I get talking to friends from both games. Or am I wrong?
Personally, I'm 100% sure that there will always be many eye-glaring bugs and balance issues on sc2 that will last forever. I'm not buying the game, but I had decided that long before the beta. I'll just watch vods instead of playing just like I do for bw.
Heh I actually also have this feeling that those of us that played WoW are alot more skeptical towards Blizzard then those who didn't =)
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On June 08 2010 19:37 killercheebo wrote:
After enough units have been sold and money have been squeezed out of SC2, they will simply stop caring
This is complete bull. Blizzard never stops caring about their games. Diablo 2 got a pach 10 years after its release!
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On June 08 2010 22:52 SkCom wrote:
are you nuts, you'll buy it just like everyone else
end of thread =o
I will not buy it "like everyone else", you braindead bot. There are people out there with some free will, you know. I respect my money and free time too much to waste them on SC2.
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Preordered CE 2 months ago. It's the expansions I may not bother to get if things get worse.
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