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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
And I canceled my collector's edition preorder. :> | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On June 09 2010 06:37 lololol wrote: I find your argument pretty funny, because... Chat rooms are "something simple that could be done in so little time". IRC has existed pretty much since the internet and it's very simple to implement. Cross realm play is "something simple that could be done in so little time". You can even do it yourself by just replacing one small file, totally not a problem for them to add it at all. LAN play is "something simple that could be done in so little time". They already have online play, LAN is not somehow more complex or an issue at all. Are you even serious with your argument? Considering the facts it looks more like sarcasm, despite not being intended as such. No because your wrong on all your points. IRC do exist but chat channels and IRC are not the same thing at all, Firstly the base of player is 1000000X bigger than any IRC on the internet. Cross realm play is a difficult task because yes you can do it, but you experiance lag which has to be fixed. Lan play is not included cause they dont want their game to be hacked. | ||
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daarkside
Germany56 Posts
On June 08 2010 19:24 killercheebo wrote: There will also be no cross-regional play what do U need it for? there is no need for it, because every sc2 region will be big enought for itself MAYBE 0,001% of all players, the pros, need it, but even then, they should fuckin stay in their region instead of joining a cross region cup and bitch about the lag during the whole fucking stream/cast/match | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5761 Posts
On June 09 2010 06:44 Darkren wrote: No because your wrong on all your points. IRC do exist but chat channels and IRC are not the same thing at all, Firstly the base of player is 1000000X bigger than any IRC on the internet. Cross realm play is a difficult task because yes you can do it, but you experiance lag which has to be fixed. Lan play is not included cause they dont want their game to be hacked. It is you who is wrong on all your points. LAN - afaik Blizzard already had it in earlier builds when showing the game to the people they invited to their HQ. Cross-server play - it's a simple matter of adding that file to each client and allowing us to make one account per server. The latency is already playable, stop making things up. Chat - some people created chat lobbies in the editor. It wouldn't take Blizzard more than a couple of days to devise something much better. | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On June 09 2010 06:09 Grend wrote: If you do not like the game to such an extent that you intend to "boycott" it (Or not buy something because you have other priorities as it really is), then why post about it in the SC2 part of the forum? You sort of opted out of the whole deal if you arent planning on buying it, and I`m fairly sure most people do not care about the fact that you will not buy the game. They post it on the SC2 part of the forum because they're talking about SC2. Why should the fact that you don't like the game and plan to boycott it in order to express your distaste mean that you shouldn't be entitled to express that opinion? Whether you buy the game or not, the truth is nobody else cares either way so I don't see why you would say this only to the people stating that they will not buy it. You could just as easily respond to someone saying "I can't wait to buy this on release day." or "I pre-ordered it already." saying, "Shut up, nobody cares."... On June 09 2010 06:46 daarkside wrote: what do U need it for? there is no need for it, because every sc2 region will be big enought for itself MAYBE 0,001% of all players, the pros, need it, but even then, they should fuckin stay in their region instead of joining a cross region cup and bitch about the lag during the whole fucking stream/cast/match There are many people here on TL.net that have gaming friends all around the world. Sure, each region will certainly be large enough to satisfy variety in a ladder situation where you're randomly matched up against other people, but for the sake of preserving the international Starcraft community, cross-region play is pretty important. It wouldn't kill Blizzard to just allow us the option to choose a specific gateway upon log-in and having "recommended" ones, but they're not even doing that. Personally, if I decide to buy this game, I would like the option to play with anyone I want in the world (including international friends) without having to buy multiple copies of it... | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On June 09 2010 06:46 daarkside wrote: what do U need it for? there is no need for it, because every sc2 region will be big enought for itself MAYBE 0,001% of all players, the pros, need it, but even then, they should fuckin stay in their region instead of joining a cross region cup and bitch about the lag during the whole fucking stream/cast/match Wow Words can not express how wrong you are. | ||
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artanis2
United States732 Posts
The lack of LAN is to keep people on bnet and prevent KESPA and iccup from running their own shit. Though iccup was already run on a custom server, it's only a matter of time until the same thing happens. On June 09 2010 06:46 daarkside wrote: what do U need it for? there is no need for it, because every sc2 region will be big enought for itself MAYBE 0,001% of all players, the pros, need it, but even then, they should fuckin stay in their region instead of joining a cross region cup and bitch about the lag during the whole fucking stream/cast/match So you don't have friends in other countries, but not all of us are sheltered like you, insisting that isolation is a good thing. | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On June 09 2010 06:44 Darkren wrote: No because your wrong on all your points. IRC do exist but chat channels and IRC are not the same thing at all, Firstly the base of player is 1000000X bigger than any IRC on the internet. Cross realm play is a difficult task because yes you can do it, but you experiance lag which has to be fixed. Lan play is not included cause they dont want their game to be hacked. Seriously, if you're just going to spout a bunch of ininformed bullshit, then don't post. Chat channels are EXTREMELY easy to implement. Cross realm play is ALREADY POSSIBLE. How do you think tourneys with players from different regions were conducted? Not to mention that 12 year old game you probably have never heard of - it's called Starcraft. The lack of LAN play will not stop SC2 from being pirated to hell and back at all. Case in point: EVERY FREAKING GAME EVER CREATED. | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On June 09 2010 06:46 daarkside wrote: what do U need it for? there is no need for it, because every sc2 region will be big enought for itself MAYBE 0,001% of all players, the pros, need it, but even then, they should fuckin stay in their region instead of joining a cross region cup and bitch about the lag during the whole fucking stream/cast/match its nice to hear that your vocal support of every future pro gamer out there, if not for the effort in having multiple accounts the HDH or europe vs asia would never have been able to gather up all these pro gamers that we currently know and have grown to accept as top tier players. would you not lend your voice to let them do this with one account? Or maybe you are simply ignorant about all the players from Australia who wont be able to understand what the rest of their servers player base are talking about? What about the people who have friends in America? or wish to study in europe? should they not be given the option to change realm? these issues may seem small but if wc3 and sc broodwar, has it why should sc2 be different? | ||
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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
On June 09 2010 02:32 LunarC wrote: When I say I'll boycott, I'll boycott. Saying one thing and doing another is one of the worst things a human being can possibly do. First i said to my friends im gonna buy this game, now i think i wont play the multiplayer anyway, so i wont buy it after all... I changed my mind. Oh crap:S I DONT WANNA GO TO JAIL!!!! | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1767 Posts
 BW is the game i fell inlove with, thats why i wont buy SC2. | ||
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daarkside
Germany56 Posts
On June 09 2010 06:51 JinMaikeul wrote: There are many people here on TL.net that have gaming friends all around the world. Sure, each region will certainly be large enough to satisfy variety in a ladder situation where you're randomly matched up against other people, but for the sake of preserving the international Starcraft community, cross-region play is pretty important. It wouldn't kill Blizzard to just allow us the option to choose a specific gateway upon log-in and having "recommended" ones, but they're not even doing that. Personally, if I decide to buy this game, I would like the option to play with anyone I want in the world (including international friends) without having to buy multiple copies of it... considering the fact that bw players will be a minority in sc2, my % from above is most likely still right on the one hand its not THAT big of a deal to include it on the other hand its not THAT big of a deal to boycott one of the best games since 10 years On June 09 2010 06:54 Archerofaiur wrote: Wow Words can not express how wrong you are. coming from the very unique bw scene u think u need it, but u dont in bw everyone was basicly forced to play global and speak engl ppl that have the opportunity to talk thier native language, do it, its natural u can find new friends after all On June 09 2010 06:58 artanis2 wrote: I'm planning on waiting a couple weeks before buying the game. Probably not long enough to make any real difference in their sales numbers. The lack of LAN is to keep people on bnet and prevent KESPA and iccup from running their own shit. not to forget MILLIONS of ppl playing wc3 illegaly throught such networks as garena and chinese counterparts for YEARS! On June 09 2010 06:46 daarkside wrote: what do U need it for? there is no need for it, because every sc2 region will be big enought for itself MAYBE 0,001% of all players, the pros, need it, but even then, they should fuckin stay in their region instead of joining a cross region cup and bitch about the lag during the whole fucking stream/cast/match So you don't have friends in other countries, but not all of us are sheltered like you, insisting that isolation is a good thing.[/QUOTE] CONTINENTS not all, but most take any big game (cs wc3 wow dota cod) all of them are far less global then bw as i said above, its the natural way how ppl act IF they have the opportunity to stay regional/continental bw never had the opportunity and was played global, it wasnt a wish from the scene it was a necessity | ||
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killercheebo
Korea (North)46 Posts
On June 09 2010 07:00 lololol wrote: Cross realm play is ALREADY POSSIBLE. How do you think tourneys with players from different regions were conducted? Not to mention that 12 year old game you probably have never heard of - it's called Starcraft.EVERY FREAKING GAME EVER CREATED. dont want to sound blunt but, you're a fucking idiot. please stay the fuck out of my thread Edit: and your name sounds like a fucking troll | ||
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roemy
Germany432 Posts
On June 08 2010 23:45 peffi wrote: my payment will come around this time and i will have 100 bucks together to buy the collectos-edition. then i will make a picture of it, a screenshot of an epic game and a pic of all the funny stuff inside the collectors-box and post it here just to laugh at all boycotters^^ no really i dont think you wont buy it. because at least you registered at the forum and wrote more or less much inhere. put your effort and time into helping or hating blizzard... whatever. i bet 5dollars that 97% in the forum will buy the game. even if they just clicked the boycott vote 5$ plz ^^ 5€ will do, too  like it or not, there is legit opinions out there, seeing this product through less tainted blizzard glasses. look... we're not trying to convince anybody - except for actiblizz, perhaps. there's lots of sober posts here, objectively listing the reason(s) why each individual choses not to buy it. be that the price all three "games" will eventually cost, be that some of the impending custom map costs, be that the students/guys working in shifts and not being able to hop over to the US servers in order to play at 4am. be that the dull/lacking damage system that only does bonus damage to itself and therefore favors a larger number of C&C-like "only more of it can beat itself" strats. just saying... the threshold may be a lot lower for people that don't consider themselves to be fanboys. there is other games out there; i, for one, will return to eve-online; the developers may have the same "pfft...we know what the customer wants, no facts/figures/threadnoughts/kittens can change that" attitude but at least (semi-) reliable means of communication among the community. -.- | ||
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uniquee
Latvia16 Posts
ahh man, classic. This was my exact view of everyone crying that they won't buy it. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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GrandSmurf
Netherlands462 Posts
bnet 2 is taking the piss so thanks, but no thanks. | ||
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allyourbase
United States243 Posts
 ..im kidding of course | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On June 09 2010 07:21 daarkside wrote: considering the fact that bw players will be a minority in sc2, my % from above is most likely still right on the one hand its not THAT big of a deal to include it on the other hand its not THAT big of a deal to boycott one of the best games since 10 years Yes, BW players will be a minority in SC2, but when it comes to online gaming, how many games do you know that don't have an international community? From MMO's to FPS (Hell, even Street Fighter), almost every new online game has and allows for an international community. Even the first Starcraft and Warcraft 3 after that supported this. It's not just BW players that have connections all over the world. A large number of people coming from all games do. It makes no sense in this day and age to have these kinds of restrictions. Also keep in mind that while each region may initially be large enough in the first few years, as time goes on, a fractured community will be very bad. Imagine if Brood War had the kind of regional disconnect that Starcraft 2 is going to have, do you seriously think it would have survived as long as it did outside of Korea? The TL.net community is international and it's honestly barely enough to keep the entire foreign Starcraft scene alive... Starcraft 2 is a decent game from what I've seen and played. I wouldn't go so far as to consider it one of the best games in the past decade, though. I certainly don't feel it will have anywhere near the longevity of Brood War and splitting the community apart will only speed up its downfall. For me, I would rather not spend my money to buy the game than go ahead and be required to buy it 3 times in order to be able to play with all of my friends (the people I actually want to play with). Granted, I'm not an ultra competitive person and I don't care about the ladder at all. I'm just someone that plays games for entertainment and if one game is too much of a hassle, it's easy enough to find another game that will give me just as much entertainment and actually allow me to play with all the people I want to. That's the way I view it, anyway. And besides, Starcraft 2 is honestly not THAT good... I really don't think we're going to look back on this game in 10 years and rank it in the top 50 PC games of all time. I could be wrong about that, but from what I've seen, I just wasn't tremendously impressed. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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