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Graham
Canada1259 Posts
On May 27 2010 09:03 Polis wrote: This looks fine: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 Not lower quality but less Wat. Would the wattage support any kinds of overclocking though? If I were to go with a http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127495 , I think it'd be hard to resist overclocking it with the two fans.  | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
the easy way to tell whether or not a psu is to be trusted is to look at the length of the warranty, find the oem of the model on google, look at the 12v rails. a good manufacturer will offer at least 5 years of warranty; if it is less than that, there is something wrong with the psu. anything seasonic or corsair is good. yes, they are expensive but when you buy their psu, you know that you're getting close to their rated values and will stand the test of time, stay cool, and stay quiet. corsair will offer 7 years, seasonic will offer 5 years. psu's are where manufacturers will tell white lies the most. to take use an example, the ocz modxstreams 700w will only be able to reliably output 400w of clean power since they're actually the bottom of the barrel fsp models. On May 27 2010 09:07 FragKrag wrote: It should actually be a higher quality PSU because I'm pretty sure those Green series EarthWatts (500W and under) are actually Sea Sonic OEMs not anymore, the new earthwatts with the -d suffix, like the psu polis posted, are made by delta now. of course that still doesn't matter since delta is a solid enough. one thing people should never trust are newegg reviews. people there are silly. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2048868 | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
Ofc there are intelligent post too, but generally if you see a shit ton of reviews saying DOA don't think much up of. DOA products are a small percent of any given product, it's just more likely people who get something DOA is likely to post something about it then a person content with what they got. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL052710&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL052710-_-EMC-052710-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17139005-L0C $10 off w/ promo code EMCYSNV26, ends 6/2 + $20 MIR corsair is pretty good at giving you mail in rebates, some groups like ocz have horrible history of shitty MIR just shitty customer service in general, so 60 bucks for a good 650w psu. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
They have a price match if you're buying parts (it's a manual process though, so you enter the link where you find a better deal than the one they have, can't be limited time offers or mail-in rebates I think, but then someone goes and manually checks the other guy's price and they price match) so could be good if you want to get all your stuff at one place and different places offer better prices on different things (I assume you could at least save on shipping a bit. So yeah... try that out if you're interested. =] I just got my computer there, $50 for assembly (if you buy an OS they install it and all that stuffs). Edit: Use the PC Builder (tab at the top), and go on the gaming tab (the individual tab computers provide more options than the ones on the PC Builder front page). They have a few common things you can choose from and then you can click + Advanced Options to choose from all available items of that type on NCIX, there's a search bar of course. I thought it was pretty nice to use though I don't know much about PCs, so I don't know how good of a "fit" the options they give you are. But I think it's a nice place to start (especially if you think you're going to accidentally forget an important component) and I definitely like the fact that they assemble. I've never used newegg but it doesn't look like they do assembly. So you're stuck either picking one of their systems or having to assemble it. | ||
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darkponcho
United States262 Posts
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19159068 My budget is ~1000 dollars, and I want to know if anything in that list will severely bottleneck my computer. Also, please say any changes you would make or items that you recommend against in the list as well! Basically, I just want your opinion Thanks a lot for the help! | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 The Cooler Master HAF 922 @ $90 is a much better deal. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261062 Is a better deal on the GTS 250. The XFX is a waste of money. If you want to overclock, I guess the MSI GTS 250 is a better choice. I'm also not sure why you are building an X58 system when you are using a relatively weak graphics card. | ||
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LonelyMargarita
1845 Posts
On May 28 2010 07:35 darkponcho wrote: Hey hardware pros, can you take a look at this? http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19159068 My budget is ~1000 dollars, and I want to know if anything in that list will severely bottleneck my computer. Also, please say any changes you would make or items that you recommend against in the list as well! Basically, I just want your opinion Thanks a lot for the help! You're gonna need an optical drive, an OS, and a non-stock cooler for your cpu, so make sure you budget ~$175 more for all that. As for what you listed, I personally have no clue as to why people over 12 go for that case. For half the price you can have a Cooler Master case about the same air flow, but without the obnoxious LEDs and window. On May 28 2010 07:53 FragKrag wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261062 Is a better deal on the GTS 250. The XFX is a waste of money. If you want to overclock, I guess the MSI GTS 250 is a better choice. You buy XFX for their warranties. After going through several graphics cards with lesser warranties, it's worth it for some people. | ||
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
either way, if you want to overclock your gpu, you want a reference card since non-reference pcbs are normally not as good as it. reference cards are very often simply over engineered and can take more of a beating than non reference pcbs that have stuff taken out to save costs. if you're running on stock settings or won't be playing with large voltages to overclock it doesn't matter which card you set though though. x58 systems are an absolute waste of cash, why bother with it. lga1156 and lga1366 are dead ends anyway so you're not future proofing anything. unless you're a moron on [H] and need to increase your penis size, don't bother with x58 systems since how much you're paying for it is not worth the price. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On May 28 2010 05:57 semantics wrote: Speaking of good psu deals http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL052710&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL052710-_-EMC-052710-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17139005-L0C + $20 MIR corsair is pretty good at giving you mail in rebates, some groups like ocz have horrible history of shitty MIR just shitty customer service in general, so 60 bucks for a good 650w psu. lol, you posted the same psu that's in my link I dunno why people complain so much about ocz being so bad with their MIR. I've had 5 or so MIR from them in the past 3 months, and yea they take the full 10 weeks, but I've gotten the money without issue every time | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
On May 28 2010 08:13 Subwoofermate wrote: xfx is for warranty and customer support. same with evga. if you're card is toast on arrival or something is wrong with it, these two guys will make your life so much easier. if you've had to rma something expensive before, you'll know how awesome a good manufacturer that doesn't force you to jump through hoops is. hell, if your stuff is old enough evga can't be stuffed giving you the old item and gives you something better most of the time. either way, if you want to overclock your gpu, you want a reference card since non-reference pcbs are normally not as good as it. reference cards are very often simply over engineered and can take more of a beating than non reference pcbs that have stuff taken out to save costs. if you're running on stock settings or won't be playing with large voltages to overclock it doesn't matter which card you set though though. x58 systems are an absolute waste of cash, why bother with it. lga1156 and lga1366 are dead ends anyway so you're not future proofing anything. unless you're a moron on [H] and need to increase your penis size, don't bother with x58 systems since how much you're paying for it is not worth the price. I realize XFX has its Lifetime warranties, but paying $40 for it seems excessive imo. Subwoofermate: Sure, reference cards are better than the skimp cards you get from some partners, but with many higher quality partners like EVGA, MSI, ASUS they give you decent platforms to overclock on. MSI HAWK 5770 and the new ASUS DirectCU 5850 are all amazing overclockers which aren't based on the reference design. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On May 28 2010 08:13 Subwoofermate wrote: xfx is for warranty and customer support. same with evga. if you're card is toast on arrival or something is wrong with it, these two guys will make your life so much easier. if you've had to rma something expensive before, you'll know how awesome a good manufacturer that doesn't force you to jump through hoops is. hell, if your stuff is old enough evga can't be stuffed giving you the old item and gives you something better most of the time. either way, if you want to overclock your gpu, you want a reference card since non-reference pcbs are normally not as good as it. reference cards are very often simply over engineered and can take more of a beating than non reference pcbs that have stuff taken out to save costs. if you're running on stock settings or won't be playing with large voltages to overclock it doesn't matter which card you set though though. x58 systems are an absolute waste of cash, why bother with it. lga1156 and lga1366 are dead ends anyway so you're not future proofing anything. unless you're a moron on [H] and need to increase your penis size, don't bother with x58 systems since how much you're paying for it is not worth the price. except xfx is known for eh customer support, while evga is known for great support. All graphic cards manufactures have at least a 2 year warranty on their parts usually 3 pertaining to manufacture defects etc. Meaning if you did right by your card and it just up and died on you, you can rma it. If you're like me and get a new card every year or two, double lifetime warranty which just means it carries over if you sell the card and that doesn't mean jack, i usually give away my old stuff to friends then get a quick 50 bucks or w.e As far as your x58 comment, there are two types of overclockers, those who bitch about others spending money for the best and those with the best because to some 2nd place might as well be last. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On May 28 2010 09:03 KOFgokuon wrote: lol, you posted the same psu that's in my link I dunno why people complain so much about ocz being so bad with their MIR. I've had 5 or so MIR from them in the past 3 months, and yea they take the full 10 weeks, but I've gotten the money without issue every time They ditched 1 MIR out of like the 30 i've done with them, but that's not my real beef with them, it's when i rma shit with them they bitch and moan all the way to the bank to me their customer support will always be shit. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
Honestly, a 2-3 year warranty should be absolutely fine for a GPU. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On May 28 2010 09:37 FragKrag wrote: Based on his choice of the GTS 250, I really, really doubt he is an enthusiast, therefore a good LGA 1156 P55 system with an i7 860 + P7P55D-E Pro will do absolutely fine. Honestly, a 2-3 year warranty should be absolutely fine for a GPU. Hey, if he wants to oc like mad i know plenty of people who skimp on gpu becuase they are overclockers first, then people who play games 2nd. ofc i would doubt it too as he's posting here for help instead of a more suitable forum. LGA1156+860 is more then enough for most cases, generally for games a 750 is the most you want to do unless you plan on streaming/ recording while your playing as there is no real in game benefit to hyper threading etc if he was for games i'd go 750+5850 and work from that. | ||
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Ultionis`
United States27 Posts
I just wanted to check with the users in this thread and make sure everything looks all nice and tight. My goal with the computer was to keep it as close to 850$ as possible while still having it be a quality gaming desktop. Here's my wish list for it Also, I have an alternative graphics card that is similar to my one listed in the build, but significantly cheaper, and I was not certain if it was less quality or what. + Show Spoiler + Thanks in advance! Edit: It was pointed out that my wishlist is private even though I made it public on newegg. Not quite certain what to do about that. For right now I'll just post this. http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9350/buildpx.jpg Looks like exactly like this, but has this video card instead. + Show Spoiler + If a 5770 is too limited for my kind of build, then maybe what video card would you recommend considering my parts list? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
If you're spending $850 on a computer, no matter what's in it a 5570 is gonna totally hinder your performance | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
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