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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 17:19:30
May 26 2010 17:17 GMT
#141
On May 27 2010 02:01 Graham wrote:
Hey all,

Working on putting together a build for a computer I'm going to build for my brother. There isn't really any requirements other then the fact that the budget is between $500 - $600 and have the ability to do some decient gaming (I'm not talking the latest games in ultra settings at some crazy resolution, but say low~medium settings would be good).

This is what I've got so far:
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13094165
Any suggestions/ideas/feedback is appreciated.


Uh right off the bat, you are not matching the correct CPU with the correct socket. Right now you have a s775 chip and a s1156 motherboard. Change the CPU to a i5 750. Secondly, the s1156 socket uses DDR3, so change your RAM to DDR3 as well.

Don't really know much about that PSU, but the way they display the rails on that is a bit misleading. It's only 384W (32amps) for the 12v...which is a bit low IMO.

*hmm on second thought, it does look like you're going for a budget build. The i3 530 Clarkdale is sitll gonna $128 though. If you're really strapped, consider an AMD build instead, but the IPC of Intel is gonna be better at the moment.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14908 Posts
May 26 2010 17:19 GMT
#142
your motherboard isn't compatible with your cpu, you're buying an 775 cpu for a 1156 socket
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 17:40:03
May 26 2010 17:35 GMT
#143
My bad on the motherboard not being compatable, was playing around a build with an i3 and forgot to swap the motherboard when I changed to the e5300.

I am indeed going for a pretty budget build ($500-600), and I know AMD is a lot cheaper though I'd prefer to stick with Intel. That being said, however, is AMD really that much worse then Intel and would it be worth cheaping out and going with AMD?

On May 27 2010 02:17 mav451 wrote:
Don't really know much about that PSU, but the way they display the rails on that is a bit misleading. It's only 384W (32amps) for the 12v...which is a bit low IMO.


What would you suggest instead?
I don't really have a great knowledge on PSUs, other then the fact that you generally don't want to cheap out on one and (from what I've heard) Antec is a pretty good brand.
Zemtex
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden31 Posts
May 26 2010 18:10 GMT
#144
Good thing that computer stuff can be cheap in sweden you can get a great gaming computer for 1000$ no doubt. =)
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DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
May 26 2010 19:51 GMT
#145
So I've decided to make my first PC and was wondering what you guys think about something like this.

http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19141488

I think everything is compatible and whatnot but this is my first build so I'm not very experienced. Also open to any suggestions or improvements.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 19:58:43
May 26 2010 19:56 GMT
#146
You want a 930, not a 920, bit overkill on the PSU if you are not looking to get another GPU.

Honestly you are better off going with a 1156 CPU like the quad core i5s if you are not going to sli high end video cards.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
May 26 2010 20:01 GMT
#147
Hmm, whats the major difference between 920 and 930? And I plan on adding an additional video card later just so thats why I went for that power supply.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 22:43:32
May 26 2010 22:40 GMT
#148
Graham: If you're buying a CPU that is under $120 (ie i3), then AMD is definitely your best bet. At lower prices, Intel CPUs just don't offer the power that AMD does.

DEN1ED: I really don't understand your choices at all.

1. You get a 750W PSU for the HD 5770. Even if you do plan on putting another 5770, the most you could possibly need would be a 650W PSU (even then it's a bit overkill TBH).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021
This is a much better PSU for what you plan on doing.

2. Why are you getting X58 in the first place? If you are going to crossfire HD 5770s, you don't need the full X16 bandwidth because the HD 5770 really isn't that powerful. The X8 limitation normally only starts showing up at the level of the HD 5850, which is a much more powerful card.

3. You are getting the i7 920 when the i7 930 is the exact same price. No reason not to get the extra multiplier (133MHz) that the 930 offers.

4. I don't like Foxconn mobos. If you plan on doing overclocking, stay away from them. Go for a solid Gigabyte, the extra $40-50 is totally worth it. That board especially. It only gives you 5 slots, which once you add in two HD 5770s, you will only be able to use that PCI slot in the middle. The board layout is absolutely terrible. It has very limited expansion capabilities.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130273

This MSI is a much better choice.
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DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
May 26 2010 23:05 GMT
#149
Alright sounds good. Thanks.
AaronEB
Profile Joined May 2010
United States76 Posts
May 26 2010 23:07 GMT
#150
On May 11 2010 05:17 Rodiel wrote:
only 99 u all owned.



User was warned for this post


I'm sorry but this is just funny.
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Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 23:29:02
May 26 2010 23:28 GMT
#151
@FragKrag

What are your opinions on:
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13094165
..for a $500-600 budget build?

(You seem to have quite the knowledge of all things computers, haha. If you have a build of your own I'm all ears).
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
May 26 2010 23:42 GMT
#152
On May 27 2010 02:35 Graham wrote:
My bad on the motherboard not being compatable, was playing around a build with an i3 and forgot to swap the motherboard when I changed to the e5300.

I am indeed going for a pretty budget build ($500-600), and I know AMD is a lot cheaper though I'd prefer to stick with Intel. That being said, however, is AMD really that much worse then Intel and would it be worth cheaping out and going with AMD?


AMD have much better CPU then E5300 Oo. You can try to build something with Phenom II 550 very good CPU for the price.
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
May 26 2010 23:45 GMT
#153
On May 27 2010 08:42 Polis wrote:
AMD have much better CPU then E5300 Oo. You can try to build something with Phenom II 550 very good CPU for the price.


Haha, see the post directly above yours.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
May 26 2010 23:48 GMT
#154
On May 27 2010 08:28 Graham wrote:
@FragKrag

What are your opinions on:
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13094165
..for a $500-600 budget build?.


You can save some $ by getting PII 550. I would advice you to find some $ to upgrade 5670>5770 becouse the deference will be huge, you don't need 550W PSU.

COOLER MASTER Elite 330 is also a decent case will save few $ if you must.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
May 26 2010 23:49 GMT
#155
Hm,

For graphics cards, instead of the HD 5670, I would get this GTS 250
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127495
It puts you over your budget, but if you can get the $25 Mail in Rebate it should be ok.

As for motherboards, I'm not sure why you went with an AM2+ socket since it only supports DDR2 (which is dying out quickly).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603
is a good board, though I would prefer to see another PCIe x1 Slot.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431
is also a good board. At $5 more, it gives you better expansion slots, and USB 3.0.

If you get one of the AM3 boards I recommended, you will need to replace your DDR2 with DDR3. This GSkill is actually a fairly decent value. It lacks fancy heatspreaders (which don't really do much), but since you probably won't be overclocking the RAM much, you don't need them.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253
If you want heatspreaders, you should go for this set
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274

They are actually the same RAM as the one above, except with heatspreaders.
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Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 23:54:17
May 26 2010 23:50 GMT
#156
On May 27 2010 08:48 Polis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 08:28 Graham wrote:
@FragKrag

What are your opinions on:
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13094165
..for a $500-600 budget build?.


You can save some $ by getting PII 550. I would advice you to find some $ to upgrade 5670>5770 becouse the deference will be huge, you don't need 550W PSU.

COOLER MASTER Elite 330 is also a decent case will save few $ if you must.


Yeah just downsized to the PII 550 since it can be bundled with another mobo for a $25 discount. I'm confused as regards to how much power I would need to run the system however, as well as brands which one would suggest. I know theres PSU's for like $20 though I know people always say to put the money into a good quality PSU.

edit: so much feedback, haha. Thanks everyone thus far, going through it all haha.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 23:55:03
May 26 2010 23:54 GMT
#157
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256061
This Silverstone should be a solid power supply. It also boasts 80+ Efficiency.

Lots of people also like Corsair
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008
It is a bit expensive though
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 26 2010 23:55 GMT
#158
On May 27 2010 08:28 Graham wrote:
@FragKrag

What are your opinions on:
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13094165
..for a $500-600 budget build?

(You seem to have quite the knowledge of all things computers, haha. If you have a build of your own I'm all ears).

The HDD you listed is a good one for consistently writing and reading, imo not recommended for normal function such as running an os and opening random files.

you have a am3 cpu i'd try to get a ddr3 memory

but i mean i look at shipping

everything is shipping at 10 dollars a pop hell the 20 buck rom-drive is shipping at 10 bucks t-t

i'm sure there are better stores then newegg.ca for canadians, i just can't remember them.
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 23:58:37
May 26 2010 23:58 GMT
#159
On May 27 2010 08:55 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 08:28 Graham wrote:
@FragKrag

What are your opinions on:
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13094165
..for a $500-600 budget build?

(You seem to have quite the knowledge of all things computers, haha. If you have a build of your own I'm all ears).

The HDD you listed is a good one for consistently writing and reading, imo not recommended for normal function such as running an os and opening random files.

you have a am3 cpu i'd try to get a ddr3 memory

but i mean i look at shipping

everything is shipping at 10 dollars a pop hell the 20 buck rom-drive is shipping at 10 bucks t-t

i'm sure there are better stores then newegg.ca for canadians, i just can't remember them.


To be honest while each part ships for a lot, the entire build combined ships for around $30 which is really good as far as I've seen compared to NCIX and Tigerdirect.

I'm also in Calgary and have access to Memory Express, though their prices up front seem to be higher than online stores.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
May 27 2010 00:03 GMT
#160
On May 27 2010 08:50 Graham wrote:
I know theres PSU's for like $20 though I know people always say to put the money into a good quality PSU.


This looks fine:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Not lower quality but less Wat.
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