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So you basically want to build a home theatre pc?
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A few things to note:
5400 RPM drives are very quiet, they are typically the ones used in laptops so I think that should give you some idea of the noise. Considering this, I think it's difficult to justify a SSD in any form, especially considering its relative cost compared to the build.
From what I can tell, the i3-530 is able to decode 1080p video with integrated graphics. I have heard that the stock fan on the 530 is fairly quiet, though you may want to go with a passive cooler which should cost $30-$50. Of course, this also means you should avoid playing games that are even remotely demanding.
I'm fairly iffy on the fans. The cost of 3 fans should be about the same regardless, but you can get fans that are both quiet and effective, or incredibly quiet fans that, while basically impossible to hear, move so little air that it might not be enough to cool the case.
I assumed you would want a blu-ray drive, but removing it saves you $60.
It comes out to $500 without SSD/blu-ray, which I think is acceptable. You can save around $100 more by picking out a case with a built in power supply and dropping the fans.
Also, I think spending extra money on a large case and then stuffing it to muffle noise is a bad idea, but that's just my opinion.
Just a disclaimer, I have very little experience building HTPCs.
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I want to upgrade my PC. I'll be mainly using it for SC2 and other games.
I already have a Radeon 5770.
This is what I had in mind:
ASUS P7P55 LX P55 S1156 ATX *** 90,19 €
2x2048MB G.Skill NT DDR3-1333 CL9 Kit *** 89,55 €
Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz 4800MT/s S1156 8MB 95W BOX 186,40 €
Total: 366,14 €
With a coupon I have I can get it down to about 300€.
What do you guys think? Should I rather go for a AMD system?
Is the mobo ok? I don't know much about mobos.. I was also thinking about getting a SSD to put the OS and a few games on (SC). Was thinking about this one:
64GB Western Digital SiliconEdge Blue 121,34 €
Dunno much about SSDs, but reviews said its good for the price. Will it be compatible with the mobo? Does a SSD require special features? (Special SATA controller or smth?).
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G.Skill Falcon II 64GB is imo the best bang for buck without going to sandforce.
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On July 08 2010 17:22 nineninja9 wrote:So you basically want to build a home theatre pc? A few things to note: 5400 RPM drives are very quiet, they are typically the ones used in laptops so I think that should give you some idea of the noise. Considering this, I think it's difficult to justify a SSD in any form, especially considering its relative cost compared to the build. From what I can tell, the i3-530 is able to decode 1080p video with integrated graphics. I have heard that the stock fan on the 530 is fairly quiet, though you may want to go with a passive cooler which should cost $30-$50. Of course, this also means you should avoid playing games that are even remotely demanding. I'm fairly iffy on the fans. The cost of 3 fans should be about the same regardless, but you can get fans that are both quiet and effective, or incredibly quiet fans that, while basically impossible to hear, move so little air that it might not be enough to cool the case. I assumed you would want a blu-ray drive, but removing it saves you $60. It comes out to $500 without SSD/blu-ray, which I think is acceptable. You can save around $100 more by picking out a case with a built in power supply and dropping the fans. Also, I think spending extra money on a large case and then stuffing it to muffle noise is a bad idea, but that's just my opinion. Just a disclaimer, I have very little experience building HTPCs.
the hdd is a 5400rpm if it's not too much more costly i'd move to a Western Digital Green, most have a great baring system that's ultra quiet under use.
The fans are costly, frankly all of them don't move alot of air but are quiet, but for those prices i might as well get these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608004
ofc there are always ways to quiet a pc
http://www.acousticpc.com/quiet_computer_case_insulation.html
in reality any non sleeve based fans will do, 2 ball is great and some hyrdo proprietary named crap is probably just fine.
i'd try to save money to get a passive cpu cooler or one you can strap at very low rpms or even 4 gigs of ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256055&cm_re=Silverstone_Nightjar-_-17-256-055-_-Product
pure passive psu haha too bad demand is so low.
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I could really use a gaming build. I don't know much about computers, so could use some help. The builds so far are they only for gaming? Or do they have some gaming wise unneccesary stuff?
My budget is a max of 1300 dollars.
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On July 08 2010 10:25 FragKrag wrote:
Streaming puts almost 0 stress on the GPU.
GPGPU has not advanced far enough for it to be very common place at the moment. I would say get an HD 5870 and a better motherboard so you can add another. ME:2 puts almost no stress on the 5870 (even before catalyst drivers), and the 5870 was averaging 60+ fps on DoW2 before catalyst drivers as well.
I wouldn't skimp on the motheboard. Better motherboards give better overclocking capabilities and features you don't realize you want until you need them. (like a clear CMOS button)
You don't need the 5970 unless you are doing tri-monitor eyefinity or like 2560x1600.
Uh the 1090T is $300, you can pick up an i7 930 @ Microcenter for $200-230 (depending on the day) or $280 or so at Newegg. The cost comes from the X58 (which is comparable to the 890FX/790FX motherboards)
And I have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to performance. If you are going to encode, then yes the 1090T wins over the i7 930/860, but if you are talking about gaming, the i7s are still miles ahead in every regard. The $280 i7s are duos at 2.8 GHz. And I've said numerous times I'll be doing video encoding unrelated to gaming. Resetting CMOS is easy without a button, and I don't plan to spend $60 for one. And I plan to set up at least 2 HP LP3065s.
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Clock for clock, Intel wins though.
There is no reason not to go for 1090T, it is the best CPU that AMD has put out in a while. But being a Black Edition, I hope you take advantage of that.
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On July 08 2010 20:56 haduken wrote:
Clock for clock, Intel wins though.
There is no reason not to go for 1090T, it is the best CPU that AMD has put out in a while. But being a Black Edition, I hope you take advantage of that.
the reason no one should go for a 1090T is because the 1055T is $100 less and can overclock just as well with a little more work 
On July 08 2010 20:15 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 10:25 FragKrag wrote:
Streaming puts almost 0 stress on the GPU.
GPGPU has not advanced far enough for it to be very common place at the moment. I would say get an HD 5870 and a better motherboard so you can add another. ME:2 puts almost no stress on the 5870 (even before catalyst drivers), and the 5870 was averaging 60+ fps on DoW2 before catalyst drivers as well.
I wouldn't skimp on the motheboard. Better motherboards give better overclocking capabilities and features you don't realize you want until you need them. (like a clear CMOS button)
You don't need the 5970 unless you are doing tri-monitor eyefinity or like 2560x1600.
Uh the 1090T is $300, you can pick up an i7 930 @ Microcenter for $200-230 (depending on the day) or $280 or so at Newegg. The cost comes from the X58 (which is comparable to the 890FX/790FX motherboards)
And I have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to performance. If you are going to encode, then yes the 1090T wins over the i7 930/860, but if you are talking about gaming, the i7s are still miles ahead in every regard. The $280 i7s are duos at 2.8 GHz. And I've said numerous times I'll be doing video encoding unrelated to gaming. Resetting CMOS is easy without a button, and I don't plan to spend $60 for one. And I plan to set up at least 2 HP LP3065s.
also i7s are not duals if that's what you mean. there really is almost no reason to go AMD if you're spending $300 on a cpu the 1090T is simply not worth it. unless you're going to do some professional encoding an i7 860 does just as well as a 1090T and does far better in gaming thanks to turbo. this of course is for the sake of discussion, in almost all cases i7 860 > 1090T. of course, the 1055T would be a different matter altogether.
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is awesome32277 Posts
I agree with magnimus nini
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You could build your own for less, but it isn't terrible.
AMD 6 cores aren't the best gaming CPUs though.
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I'd honestly like to build my own, but I get so bogged down in the details, trying to figure out where to save and where to splurge. I've been thinking that the time savings from buying a premade might be worth the cost difference.
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is coretemp a reliable program for determining cpu temps?
I've been trying to determine what temp my cpu is at when playing games, but pcprobe and coretemp give me drastically different numbers. Coretemp's numbers are much lower, by about 6-7 degrees
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G0dly: Real Temp is generally what people end up using
What CPU is it? In the past years (not sure when), Intel and AMD changed where the heat sensor is. So older monitors like Speed Fan give a lower temperature. Anyways you generally want to go with the higher temperature :p
Rho_ you won't spend any time if we put together a list of parts for you :p
after all that is what this thread is for!
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real temp, hwmonitor, everest etc mostly what i care about is change of temp.
Ofc you should be always under like 5c of the max temp. just to take into account for errors in how temps are gathered.
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On July 09 2010 09:35 FragKrag wrote:
G0dly: Real Temp is generally what people end up using
What CPU is it? In the past years (not sure when), Intel and AMD changed where the heat sensor is. So older monitors like Speed Fan give a lower temperature. Anyways you generally want to go with the higher temperature :p
Rho_ you won't spend any time if we put together a list of parts for you :p
after all that is what this thread is for!
yeah, about putting a computer together it's just like an afternoon as a bonus you get no bloat ware on your computer you need to remove.
If it's your first time it's likely an afternoon, i can do it in like an hour, 10-30 mins to install windows haha yeah.
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depends a lot on the parts you get and the effort you put in though. The more effort you put in, the cleaner the build is and the better your airflow (though have a good case makes this so much easier)
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not everyone can spend this much love on their computer
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