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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
October 11 2017 07:45 GMT
#1
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Seoul Cup OGN Supermatch


Saturday, Oct 14 5:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


Casters

Artosis & Wolf


Players

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(T)Flash      (Z)EffOrt

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(P)Stork      (P)Best


Calendaraka Foxhan
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
October 11 2017 08:01 GMT
#2
6AM for me. Damn, guess I'll watch it from VODs!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 08:23:04
October 11 2017 08:22 GMT
#3
Maps
Match Point
Neo Medusa
Fighting Spirit
Gladiator

Format
Best of 1 Double Elimination/Dual Tournament
Best of 5 Grand Finals
Commentator
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
October 11 2017 09:09 GMT
#4
Gladiator is getting some serious love again. I love it <3
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 11 2017 09:33 GMT
#5
Sounds like a fun event. Good players and a nice map pool too.

Gogo Stork!
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 11 2017 13:03 GMT
#6
On October 11 2017 18:09 Qikz wrote:
Gladiator is getting some serious love again. I love it <3


well its an OGN map so of course they'd use it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
October 11 2017 14:12 GMT
#7
They also have amateur OGN tournament at the same day. worth of 1,000,000 won for first place
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 11 2017 14:16 GMT
#8
Are you competing in it? I hope you are, I think you have good chances to get really far
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
heyitsMiro
Profile Blog Joined November 2016
83 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 14:21:49
October 11 2017 14:21 GMT
#9
This thread needs some predictions.im thinking:
flash > effort
best > stork
flash > best
effort > stork

Effort 3-2 flash
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
October 11 2017 15:00 GMT
#10
On October 11 2017 23:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Are you competing in it? I hope you are, I think you have good chances to get really far

i signed up.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
October 13 2017 11:39 GMT
#11
Gogo Stork you can do it!
日本語が上手ですね
Manner]Mai
Profile Joined October 2017
11 Posts
October 14 2017 01:45 GMT
#12
On October 11 2017 23:12 LaStScan wrote:
They also have amateur OGN tournament at the same day. worth of 1,000,000 won for first place


Scan u have no chance even vs Amateur, right?
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
October 14 2017 01:51 GMT
#13
On October 14 2017 10:45 Manner]Mai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 23:12 LaStScan wrote:
They also have amateur OGN tournament at the same day. worth of 1,000,000 won for first place


Scan u have no chance even vs Amateur, right?

scan is there somewhere we can watch it?

Manner]Mai
Profile Joined October 2017
11 Posts
October 14 2017 04:00 GMT
#14
Who care about Scan top 2000 korean?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 04:16:33
October 14 2017 04:15 GMT
#15
Sweet stuff, I'm expecting Effort to bring it since his exit from ASL in that all Zerg group. I want to see Flash own of course being my favourite player. Pretty cool this is happening either way.

I think Grand Final will be between Flash and Effort. Not sure who will win it though.
Artosis loves Starcraft
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
October 14 2017 04:16 GMT
#16
On October 11 2017 23:12 LaStScan wrote:
They also have amateur OGN tournament at the same day. worth of 1,000,000 won for first place


I honestly thought everyone was considered amateur these days considering everyone is "retired" and no one is sponsored and there are no training houses and other such infrastructure.
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
October 14 2017 04:19 GMT
#17
On October 14 2017 10:51 Siz)Beggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 10:45 Manner]Mai wrote:
On October 11 2017 23:12 LaStScan wrote:
They also have amateur OGN tournament at the same day. worth of 1,000,000 won for first place


Scan u have no chance even vs Amateur, right?

scan is there somewhere we can watch it?


Afreeca. I heard shinee came also. Blizzard server died that group a hasnt even started atm.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
October 14 2017 04:46 GMT
#18
STARCRAFT REMASTERED OUTAGE
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20759248793
Network issue.
TL+ Member
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 14 2017 04:53 GMT
#19
is this like not happening?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 14 2017 04:55 GMT
#20
https://go.twitch.tv/ognglobal
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2017 04:57 GMT
#21
On October 14 2017 13:46 sc19980331 wrote:
STARCRAFT REMASTERED OUTAGE
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20759248793
Network issue.


Outage shouldn't effect this at all. They play on LAN, not BNET. Or at least I assume they do LAN since it was never removed and that's what is typically done for live events.
When I think of something else, something will go here
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 14 2017 04:58 GMT
#22
https://go.twitch.tv/ogn

KR stream
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
October 14 2017 05:02 GMT
#23
seems like either only upper tier seating or there's no one there
Commentator
razerfor99
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 14 2017 05:03 GMT
#24
On October 14 2017 13:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
https://go.twitch.tv/ognglobal

thank you so much!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 05:16 GMT
#25
I'm gonna have a epileptic fit with all these crazy lights.
Artosis loves Starcraft
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 14 2017 05:24 GMT
#26
Wish they would get this started T.T
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
October 14 2017 05:26 GMT
#27
Posting photos and videos from the live venue on Twitter.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
October 14 2017 05:31 GMT
#28
The player lineup should produce some good games, really looking forward to this!
Milchmann | DeadVessel: Milchmann pwns. I fail.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
October 14 2017 05:32 GMT
#29
thank god ogn is not using dynamic lighting
Commentator
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 14 2017 05:39 GMT
#30
Is it just me or is Flash kinda playing badly? He had a ling runby into his base, his mnm micro didn't feel solid and when he ran into that second hidden base, he ran into drones...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2017 05:41 GMT
#31
Tsk tsk Flash loses, must be playing bad . Effort just so godlike! I thought those 4 marines were going to destroy Effort and possibly cost him the game, glad it didn't.
When I think of something else, something will go here
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 14 2017 05:42 GMT
#32
Damn I love seeing 2 hatch muta
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
October 14 2017 05:43 GMT
#33
500 apm at work there >.>
Commentator
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 14 2017 05:44 GMT
#34
those are some hilariously large booths
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 05:44 GMT
#35
Sometimes you have bad games. Very good game by Effort though, 2 hatch muta I like it. Shame to see Flash lose but good job to Effort.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 05:47:04
October 14 2017 05:46 GMT
#36
Refreshing to hear some nice instrumental metal tracks between the games and not some pop stuff for once. Also was happy to see match point again, always liked that map :D
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 14 2017 05:46 GMT
#37
Maybe so but it just seemed a bit uncharacteristic of Flash I guess haha.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 05:49:55
October 14 2017 05:47 GMT
#38
lolflash
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
October 14 2017 05:48 GMT
#39
I like the part where Flash immediately pulled back his scv from his natural which was supposed to build the CC there, because he saw now expo from effort, assuming lings are coming. But Effort tricked him there by expanding to 5 o'clock. Effort deserved this!
Milchmann | DeadVessel: Milchmann pwns. I fail.
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 14 2017 05:50 GMT
#40
genius expo placement from effort, if you look at the map its farther from flash than nat
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
October 14 2017 05:50 GMT
#41
Yeah this music really pumps you up for some Brood War!

Great game by Effort!
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 14 2017 06:19 GMT
#42
Beautiful zealot flank on the 1st engagement by BeSt, if only those had speed ;_;
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 06:20 GMT
#43
That storm drop at the end, what a nail drill into a coffin. Really fun PvP game. Gogo Stork, good luck against Effort.
Artosis loves Starcraft
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 14 2017 06:31 GMT
#44
So, we are left with Stork vs Effort Bo5? No losers match?
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 06:37:58
October 14 2017 06:33 GMT
#45
Winner of Stork and Effort will make the final Bo5. Then the Loser will play against the winner of Flash/Best for a spot in the final.
Artosis loves Starcraft
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 14 2017 06:35 GMT
#46
I see, thank you. At least best still has a chance!
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 06:47 GMT
#47
God damn those lights are bright.

That hold on the 3rd base was sexy by Effort. Seemed like the big moment in the game when he held it. So Stork will be going against either Best or Flash for a spot in the finals.
Artosis loves Starcraft
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 07:08:59
October 14 2017 07:07 GMT
#48
fuck, i didnt know this was on.

Is this the last game?

edit: rip nvm
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 07:10 GMT
#49
Isn't it weird to do this tour right in the middle of ASL going on?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2017 07:12 GMT
#50
I really want a Flash vs Effort finals, common Flash don't rob me of this dream!
When I think of something else, something will go here
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
October 14 2017 07:24 GMT
#51
I like how wolf turned "i think that might be an arbiter" to "it is an arbiter" - despite the fact it was probably an observer once there was no recall :p
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 14 2017 07:27 GMT
#52
Artosis and Wolf are excellent
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
October 14 2017 07:29 GMT
#53
Flash too good. Baseracing vs a protoss that just got a perfect recall off on his third, what?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 07:30 GMT
#54
I'm glad I caught this today. I forgot this event was going on, almost missed it.

Loving the commentary as well with Artosis and Wolf.
Artosis loves Starcraft
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 14 2017 07:30 GMT
#55
Come on Stork, the legend of the fall? There's one season in the year when it's possible for Flash to not win everything, right?
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epjx31
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United Kingdom324 Posts
October 14 2017 07:32 GMT
#56
What a game by Flash, staying calm even lossing his 3rd by taking out 3 base at once
Mind for OSL!
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
October 14 2017 07:37 GMT
#57
Really nice game from Flash and Best. It seems like Best probably had too many units in that recall, he needed to save at least one of those bases that he lost in the counter attack.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 07:37 GMT
#58
Gonna be a hell of a fight for the winner to beat Effort in a Bo5. Such a shame he was in a group of Zergs in the ASL.
Artosis loves Starcraft
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 07:41:02
October 14 2017 07:37 GMT
#59
On October 14 2017 16:10 Heartland wrote:
Isn't it weird to do this tour right in the middle of ASL going on?

There were cases of OSL and MSL Ro4 matches be the same weekend, and you're talking about 1 day showmatch with no prize money on the line
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 14 2017 07:44 GMT
#60
lmao at the flash finding the pylon
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 14 2017 07:44 GMT
#61
On October 14 2017 14:32 GTR wrote:
thank god ogn is not using dynamic lighting

would be great if they didn't zoom out as well. Part of the fun in spectating for me is experiencing the game exactly as the players do, tricking my brain into making decision as if it's me playing and assessing pros' actions accodingly. When they zoom out and you see half the map in one screen - all that goes out the window.
Michael Probu
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 14 2017 07:47 GMT
#62
flash still thinks stork is being extra tricky with dts lol
2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
October 14 2017 07:50 GMT
#63
Since the Liquipedia page hasn't been linked to yet:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Seoul_Cup_-_OGN_Super_Match
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
October 14 2017 07:51 GMT
#64
wtf stork? why didn't he just attack from the top side of that mineral only
Commentator
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 07:51 GMT
#65
Was that a good hold? He reset the mech army, isn't that good?
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 14 2017 07:54 GMT
#66
On October 14 2017 16:51 Heartland wrote:
Was that a good hold? He reset the mech army, isn't that good?

the way I see it is he was building up for that massive attack that was supposed to kill Flash, but he held. Now Stork's left with a low-tech army and Flash is sitting pretty on 3 gas geysers
Michael Probu
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 07:56 GMT
#67
On October 14 2017 16:54 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 16:51 Heartland wrote:
Was that a good hold? He reset the mech army, isn't that good?

the way I see it is he was building up for that massive attack that was supposed to kill Flash, but he held. Now Stork's left with a low-tech army and Flash is sitting pretty on 3 gas geysers


Ok, thanks!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 07:58 GMT
#68
Christ I can't see Stork coming back from this. That drop by flash helped him back into this big time.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
October 14 2017 07:59 GMT
#69
Why didn't Stork move more units to take out the top base after he cleared out the tanks?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
October 14 2017 07:59 GMT
#70
Can't believe Stork was a little bit of shitty dragoon-zealot pathing away from actually winning. Step your game up, Flash >:0
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 14 2017 08:00 GMT
#71
Holy shit I'm posting in a TL thread while watching BW for the first time in years . . . Can't wait to see Flash vs Effort!
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
October 14 2017 08:00 GMT
#72
FlaSh vs effort has me so hyped, don't care who wins cuz these games are gonna be siiiiiiick
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 08:00 GMT
#73
On October 14 2017 17:00 Slow Motion wrote:
Holy shit I'm posting in a TL thread while watching BW for the first time in years . . . Can't wait to see Flash vs Effort!


welcome back!
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 14 2017 08:00 GMT
#74
On October 14 2017 17:00 Slow Motion wrote:
Holy shit I'm posting in a TL thread while watching BW for the first time in years . . . Can't wait to see Flash vs Effort!


Welcome back ^^
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 14 2017 08:08 GMT
#75
Thanks! Just to confirm, Effort is still the 2nd best Zerg after JD right?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 08:12 GMT
#76
JD isn't as good as he used to be. I think age and the length of time he's put into staying awake and playing has taken it's toll. Not sure if he's number 1 Zerg at the moment. If Effort wasn't in a Zerg only group in the ASL he might of gotten to the finals.

JD might be better in ZvZ but I think Effort is better against Terran and Protoss.

Here is a thread talking about JD and the toll taking it's effect on his gaming.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/527268-jaedong-near-to-retirement
Artosis loves Starcraft
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
October 14 2017 08:13 GMT
#77
The reason I'm excited about Flash vs Effort

Top 5 players against Flash post Kespa (Spon Matches)

1) Effort 114-159 (41.8%)
2) Best 76-108 (41.3%)
3) Rain 28-42 (40%)
4) Last 33-50 (39.8)
5) Bisu 54-82 (39.7%)
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 14 2017 08:13 GMT
#78
On October 14 2017 17:08 Slow Motion wrote:
Thanks! Just to confirm, Effort is still the 2nd best Zerg after JD right?


JD is currently the second best zerg, soulkey being the best. but JD may be leaving SC.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 14 2017 08:14 GMT
#79
On October 14 2017 17:12 NoS-Craig wrote:
JD isn't as good as he used to be. I think age and the length of time he's put into staying awake and playing has taken it's toll. Not sure if he's number 1 Zerg at the moment. If Effort wasn't in a Zerg only group in the ASL he might of gotten to the finals.

JD might be better in ZvZ but I think Effort is better against Terran and Protoss.

Here is a thread talking about JD and the toll taking it's effect on his gaming.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/527268-jaedong-near-to-retirement

Wow I had no idea.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 08:15 GMT
#80
Oh yer Soulkey, he looked real good in the his ASL Ro16 group. He has a ZvZ to deal with in the finals but I think he can win against Hero.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 14 2017 08:17 GMT
#81
lets go flash
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2017 08:25 GMT
#82
Smash him Effort, do ieet :D. Hoping for some epic games.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 14 2017 08:31 GMT
#83
Jaedong is nowhere near close to soulkey, effort or larva. Dunno what you guys are on.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 08:33 GMT
#84
I was saying he used to be the best Zerg. We know he's not at the same level as he used to be.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 14 2017 08:35 GMT
#85
On October 14 2017 17:33 NoS-Craig wrote:
I was saying he used to be the best Zerg. We know he's not at the same level as he used to be.


Yeah I think your post makes sense, just mostly talking about the guy who said Jd was the second best zerg, I wish he was, but I think he's barely the fourth best zerg, imo even Killer is better.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 14 2017 08:37 GMT
#86
I think Effort, Soulkey and Larva are top 3 at the moment. Not sure which one to call best at the moment though. I'm thinking either Effort or Soulkey.
Artosis loves Starcraft
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 14 2017 08:56 GMT
#87
What a meat grinder.
Michael Probu
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 14 2017 08:58 GMT
#88
Brutal contain on that expo.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 14 2017 08:59 GMT
#89
On October 14 2017 17:37 NoS-Craig wrote:
I think Effort, Soulkey and Larva are top 3 at the moment. Not sure which one to call best at the moment though. I'm thinking either Effort or Soulkey.


Yeah I think the same. I think it's:
1-2: Effort and Soulkey
3: Larva
4: Killer
5: JD
6: Hero
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
October 14 2017 09:07 GMT
#90
On October 14 2017 17:59 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 17:37 NoS-Craig wrote:
I think Effort, Soulkey and Larva are top 3 at the moment. Not sure which one to call best at the moment though. I'm thinking either Effort or Soulkey.


Yeah I think the same. I think it's:
1-2: Effort and Soulkey
3: Larva
4: Killer
5: JD
6: Hero

I'd still put JD over Killer, his performance in Sponmatches last month was pretty good iirc
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 14 2017 09:09 GMT
#91
Is it some bullshit Blizzard requirement that they use the shittier race icons? I can't get used to it.

Sad to hear Stork was so close to the finals! Will re-watch the matches later.

How was match no. 1 on match point?
The heart's eternal vow
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 09:15 GMT
#92
My god, the muta jukes and jives
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 14 2017 09:15 GMT
#93
Insane mutalisk control :o
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 14 2017 09:17 GMT
#94
Flash's drop play just got shut down so hard.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 09:22 GMT
#95
"flash stabilized here" "*flash gg's*"
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
October 14 2017 09:23 GMT
#96
awesome - glad flash didn't straight win
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 14 2017 09:24 GMT
#97
On October 14 2017 18:07 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 17:59 Essbee wrote:
On October 14 2017 17:37 NoS-Craig wrote:
I think Effort, Soulkey and Larva are top 3 at the moment. Not sure which one to call best at the moment though. I'm thinking either Effort or Soulkey.


Yeah I think the same. I think it's:
1-2: Effort and Soulkey
3: Larva
4: Killer
5: JD
6: Hero

I'd still put JD over Killer, his performance in Sponmatches last month was pretty good iirc


Yeah, I think you'd be right, for now at least.

On topic, what a sick game from effort. If only he would have brought a defiler to flash's natural, it would have been an even earlier gg
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 14 2017 09:27 GMT
#98
Great match, hope to see this go until set 5
The heart's eternal vow
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 09:46:01
October 14 2017 09:44 GMT
#99
Guardian build?

e: just hive before 3rd gas
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 14 2017 09:50 GMT
#100
Artosis calling what Flash is doing on Medusa "SK TERRAN" just kill me fam
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
October 14 2017 09:53 GMT
#101
tHose scourge MUM GET THE CAMERA
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
October 14 2017 09:54 GMT
#102
Flash is playing like he's on quaaludes. Every reaction is 5-10 seconds too late
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 14 2017 09:55 GMT
#103
What happened to Effort? He loses to larva and wins against Flash? Larva for bonjwa!
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 14 2017 09:56 GMT
#104
On October 14 2017 18:54 gngfn wrote:
Flash is playing like he's on quaaludes. Every reaction is 5-10 seconds too late

yeah, Flash yawning was weird to see. Flash's face before an important OSL match was pure determination, he's half there for this event.
Michael Probu
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6592 Posts
October 14 2017 09:56 GMT
#105
On October 14 2017 18:55 arbiter_md wrote:
What happened to Effort? He loses to larva and wins against Flash? Larva for bonjwa!

he loss to zvz
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
October 14 2017 09:56 GMT
#106
Effort decision to go fast hive really paid off.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 14 2017 09:57 GMT
#107
[3:26 PM] AllAndArITY: i cant wait for hotbids story about how he qwas the only one to stay up
[3:26 PM] AllAndArITY: for this series


this gem from discord
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 10:03 GMT
#108
On October 14 2017 18:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
[3:26 PM] AllAndArITY: i cant wait for hotbids story about how he qwas the only one to stay up
[3:26 PM] AllAndArITY: for this series


this gem from discord


does hotbid still exist?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 14 2017 10:10 GMT
#109
Haha! That face! I want a gif
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 14 2017 10:11 GMT
#110
uhhhh that ending was anticlimactic lmao
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
October 14 2017 10:11 GMT
#111
Anyone know what the viewership is like? especially the live audience would interest me
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 10:12:03
October 14 2017 10:11 GMT
#112
On October 14 2017 19:11 Arvendilin wrote:
Anyone know what the viewership is like? especially the live audience would interest me

There's 150 seats for the viewers at the venue.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 14 2017 10:13 GMT
#113
Good games. Effort 4-1'ed Flash today. Too bad he's not in ASL anymore.
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 14 2017 10:13 GMT
#114
Sick games from effort, too bad he's out of the asl to block flash from winning :/
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
October 14 2017 10:29 GMT
#115
Wouldn't be surprised if Flash is holding back some of his strats for the big dollars in ASL.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
October 14 2017 10:55 GMT
#116
On October 14 2017 19:29 tomatriedes wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if Flash is holding back some of his strats for the big dollars in ASL.

Unless there was no financial incentive from this I would think hes jumping the gun a little. Hes playing Mind next and Bisu is highly favored against Killer so Flash has a high chance playing Bisu after.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Zealgoon
Profile Joined January 2013
China187 Posts
October 14 2017 14:33 GMT
#117
Didn't realize there was no prize money at all... Uhh. Fun games nevertheless.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
October 14 2017 14:49 GMT
#118
Vods of today's clash available in the Small VOD Thread.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 14 2017 15:42 GMT
#119
On October 14 2017 23:33 Zealgoon wrote:
Didn't realize there was no prize money at all... Uhh. Fun games nevertheless.

For the record, winner got laptop while 2nd place got monitor.
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
October 14 2017 17:34 GMT
#120
Can someone explain to me (i'm just watching the VODS) why there are like zero people in the audience? Why are they renting such a huge stage and have such a good production when there is zero turnout? For a series featuring Flash and Stork this seems kind of awkward, even in ASL it seems more people are showing up. What was the issue here?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6592 Posts
October 14 2017 17:59 GMT
#121
On October 15 2017 02:34 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Can someone explain to me (i'm just watching the VODS) why there are like zero people in the audience? Why are they renting such a huge stage and have such a good production when there is zero turnout? For a series featuring Flash and Stork this seems kind of awkward, even in ASL it seems more people are showing up. What was the issue here?

i doubt they are renting it,must be OGN studio.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2017 18:30 GMT
#122
Was nice to see Effort win, but not the most exciting of games. I think Fighting Spirit was the best.
When I think of something else, something will go here
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
October 14 2017 19:03 GMT
#123
zero people in the audience... is this like some test event??? so weird.

if it's supposed to be an actual hyped event then this is just... sad.

OGN go back to your LoL and overwatch, Afreeca's taking care of BW now after you left it to die.
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
October 15 2017 03:23 GMT
#124
any English vods? i can only find the korean ones
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
October 15 2017 03:38 GMT
#125
https://go.twitch.tv/videos/182090041
Commentator
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 15 2017 07:36 GMT
#126
Found Vods on Youtube search OGN channel and scroll through LoL shit until you see legends faces. Also +1 really strange to not see anyone on auidience. Hope theyre trsting and they will launch OSL.
sunbeams are never made like me...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 15 2017 07:54 GMT
#127
I could hear an audience at the award ceremony and i was seeing some silhouettes sitting in the upper level.

Weird that it was empty downstairs, though.
The heart's eternal vow
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-16 10:57:37
October 16 2017 10:56 GMT
#128
If anyone is wondering about the result of the amateur tournament, (T)Shinee won over (T)ByuL[KaL]

Scan made top 8, funnily enough top 4 were all Terrans.
Commentator
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6592 Posts
October 16 2017 10:58 GMT
#129
scan loss vs ?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-16 10:59:32
October 16 2017 10:59 GMT
#130
a terran called 백만원내꾸야, i don't know his ID sorry
Commentator
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 16 2017 18:42 GMT
#131
Thanks GTR. Cool to see Shinee winning!

I liked pretty much all the games hopefully we 'll continue to see BW in some form on OGN. They still have the sickest production value. What was up with those gigantic booths LOL [0]


[0] Yeah, I know, it's because of the team games like LOL and Overwatch, still grotesque to see a player sitting in there.
The heart's eternal vow
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
October 19 2017 22:01 GMT
#132
When is the next OGN?
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