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Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
September 12 2017 19:22 GMT
#241
I would say last game is recommended only if you have time or love TvT. I mean, it takes almost 50 minutes... Also maybe I wasn't so thrilled because its only a round of 24 game and I don't particularly know/care about these two players so it wasn't that thrilling. That Last v Stork game was definitely much more interesting to watch.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
September 12 2017 19:27 GMT
#242
Does anyone know, if the Korean VOD gets also uploaded somewhere to Youtube? While the streams on Afreeca are lagfree with lower resolution setting, you cannot lower the quality of their VODs so they lag.
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
September 12 2017 19:46 GMT
#243
Well, last season they uploaded both korean and english vods to their youtube channel but this season for some reasons it's only english vods.

If you want english vods head here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK5eBtuoj_HkdXKHNmBLAXg/videos
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10302 Posts
September 12 2017 19:53 GMT
#244
On September 13 2017 04:22 Ubersturmfuhrer wrote:
I would say last game is recommended only if you have time or love TvT. I mean, it takes almost 50 minutes... Also maybe I wasn't so thrilled because its only a round of 24 game and I don't particularly know/care about these two players so it wasn't that thrilling. That Last v Stork game was definitely much more interesting to watch.

This was definitely a recommended tvt... i hate the matchup with a passion but i give credit where credit is due and this game delivered.
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
September 12 2017 20:55 GMT
#245
On September 13 2017 04:27 Cryoc wrote:
Does anyone know, if the Korean VOD gets also uploaded somewhere to Youtube? While the streams on Afreeca are lagfree with lower resolution setting, you cannot lower the quality of their VODs so they lag.

This is such a bizarre limitation. Anyone with any contact with Afreeca should mention this to them.

Although it costs extra compute resources, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to offer lower quality for at least important VODs.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4249 Posts
September 12 2017 21:40 GMT
#246
That last game was something......right up until the end. Just wow.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
September 12 2017 22:20 GMT
#247
On September 12 2017 20:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 20:40 mishimaBeef wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:26 epi wrote:
The map doesn't seem cliffy enough to me for carriers? Maybe it is. Still no Katrina.

its kinda like hearth break ridge, and that was a good carrier map. but mind dictated the pace since he saw the carriers so early. lazy needed to take better engagements over cliffs and snipe more units but since he didnt do any of that he let the tank and goliath count grow until it was too late.


artosis even said he got lucky with the scans... i don't tthink mind saw them so early

but i was thinking what if he just made 4 then switch to ground on 4 base ?

he wasnt lucky. he scanned the main and forward nat before and didnt see any kind of tech. he knew something was up. thats not luck lol artosis is so dumb.


Hi,

I said that Lazy was lucky because the first 2 scans missed the Carrier tech.

I'd appreciate it if the Mods on this site would do their jobs and issue warnings for slander.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
September 12 2017 22:41 GMT
#248
On September 13 2017 07:20 Artosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2017 20:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:40 mishimaBeef wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:26 epi wrote:
The map doesn't seem cliffy enough to me for carriers? Maybe it is. Still no Katrina.

its kinda like hearth break ridge, and that was a good carrier map. but mind dictated the pace since he saw the carriers so early. lazy needed to take better engagements over cliffs and snipe more units but since he didnt do any of that he let the tank and goliath count grow until it was too late.


artosis even said he got lucky with the scans... i don't tthink mind saw them so early

but i was thinking what if he just made 4 then switch to ground on 4 base ?

he wasnt lucky. he scanned the main and forward nat before and didnt see any kind of tech. he knew something was up. thats not luck lol artosis is so dumb.


Hi,

I said that Lazy was lucky because the first 2 scans missed the Carrier tech.

I'd appreciate it if the Mods on this site would do their jobs and issue warnings for slander.

Didn't you say that carriers have an upgrade to increase how fast interceptors launch?

Artosis knows nothing about Brood War gg.

Nah jk you're the best commentator. I think the other guy was kidding and just took a jab because he's a small-time commentator and has to get them jabs in. It's the internet; people will be stupid.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
epicdoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States489 Posts
September 12 2017 22:57 GMT
#249
FlaShFTW vs Artosis showmatch when
day9 please cast
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 23:33:43
September 12 2017 23:11 GMT
#250
On September 13 2017 04:22 Ubersturmfuhrer wrote:
I would say last game is recommended only if you have time or love TvT. I mean, it takes almost 50 minutes... Also maybe I wasn't so thrilled because its only a round of 24 game and I don't particularly know/care about these two players so it wasn't that thrilling. That Last v Stork game was definitely much more interesting to watch.

I think the comment about caring about the players applies to all mirror match ups. If you really care about one of the players and really want them to win a tense ZvZ is so exciting. You can't hold your breathe, every engagement is cruical and could be the end. If you don't really know the players not so much.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
September 12 2017 23:37 GMT
#251
On September 13 2017 08:11 Greg_J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 04:22 Ubersturmfuhrer wrote:
I would say last game is recommended only if you have time or love TvT. I mean, it takes almost 50 minutes... Also maybe I wasn't so thrilled because its only a round of 24 game and I don't particularly know/care about these two players so it wasn't that thrilling. That Last v Stork game was definitely much more interesting to watch.

I think the comment about caring about the players applies to all mirror match ups. If you really care about one of the players and really want them to win a tense ZvZ is so exciting. You can't hold your breathe, every engagement is cruical and could be the end. If you don't really know the players not so much.

Also, most of the people voting saw the game live. So, when considering that the percentage of viewers recommending a game as a random variable representing the probability it's worth watching, the Bayesian probability given that it's known it's 50 minutes would be different. Because knowing ahead of time it's 50 minutes means you know it's epic and down to the last minute, so you'd be more likely to guess Rush loses despite being ahead for a while.

If you like watching SC and just happened to miss this game, and can watch it completely spoiler free, it's definitely worth the 50 minutes.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10302 Posts
September 13 2017 01:02 GMT
#252
On September 13 2017 07:41 Ancestral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 07:20 Artosis wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:40 mishimaBeef wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:26 epi wrote:
The map doesn't seem cliffy enough to me for carriers? Maybe it is. Still no Katrina.

its kinda like hearth break ridge, and that was a good carrier map. but mind dictated the pace since he saw the carriers so early. lazy needed to take better engagements over cliffs and snipe more units but since he didnt do any of that he let the tank and goliath count grow until it was too late.


artosis even said he got lucky with the scans... i don't tthink mind saw them so early

but i was thinking what if he just made 4 then switch to ground on 4 base ?

he wasnt lucky. he scanned the main and forward nat before and didnt see any kind of tech. he knew something was up. thats not luck lol artosis is so dumb.


Hi,

I said that Lazy was lucky because the first 2 scans missed the Carrier tech.

I'd appreciate it if the Mods on this site would do their jobs and issue warnings for slander.

Didn't you say that carriers have an upgrade to increase how fast interceptors launch?

Artosis knows nothing about Brood War gg.

Nah jk you're the best commentator. I think the other guy was kidding and just took a jab because he's a small-time commentator and has to get them jabs in. It's the internet; people will be stupid.

Lol.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
565 Posts
September 13 2017 01:30 GMT
#253
im sad rush didn't get out of the group.
i've been watching and learning from his stream a lot recently
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
September 13 2017 01:40 GMT
#254
Effort made it look easy.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 13 2017 01:50 GMT
#255
On September 13 2017 04:13 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 02:55 Qikz wrote:
That game proved why I love TvT and it's my favourite match. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time and it could've ended either way up until the very last mineral. Amazing.

Grossss. This may have been the one time I have ever seen a tvt that was as epic as this but I almost always try to end my TvT's quickly just because they often times devolve into these and are just too taxing to play

I get tired just thinking about it.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 02:04:02
September 13 2017 02:01 GMT
#256
On September 13 2017 07:41 Ancestral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 07:20 Artosis wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:40 mishimaBeef wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 12 2017 20:26 epi wrote:
The map doesn't seem cliffy enough to me for carriers? Maybe it is. Still no Katrina.

its kinda like hearth break ridge, and that was a good carrier map. but mind dictated the pace since he saw the carriers so early. lazy needed to take better engagements over cliffs and snipe more units but since he didnt do any of that he let the tank and goliath count grow until it was too late.


artosis even said he got lucky with the scans... i don't tthink mind saw them so early

but i was thinking what if he just made 4 then switch to ground on 4 base ?

he wasnt lucky. he scanned the main and forward nat before and didnt see any kind of tech. he knew something was up. thats not luck lol artosis is so dumb.


Hi,

I said that Lazy was lucky because the first 2 scans missed the Carrier tech.

I'd appreciate it if the Mods on this site would do their jobs and issue warnings for slander.

Didn't you say that carriers have an upgrade to increase how fast interceptors launch?

Artosis knows nothing about Brood War gg.

Nah jk you're the best commentator. I think the other guy was kidding and just took a jab because he's a small-time commentator and has to get them jabs in. It's the internet; people will be stupid.


Tbf, FlashFTW was just responding to the text above. He couldn't know what the actual context for "lucky" because he wasn't watching Artosis...he was casting the game.

In any case, Lazy was "lucky" that Mind didn't scan the tech directly, but Mind gained all the information he needed to conclude fast carriers. And that map is a terrible arbiter map because you can't split it with a second main. We saw that clearly on Day 1 with the match between Light and Sky. Carriers are the only way you can stall in the center of the map and protect your bases.

(The carrier upgrade for faster interceptor launching is from SC2. I believe it was removed in LotV.)
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
September 13 2017 02:52 GMT
#257
Anyone else notice that the one game on Fighting Spirit is always super highly recomended? Or at least so far for groups A, B and C. Love that map.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 13 2017 03:03 GMT
#258
On September 13 2017 11:52 reincremate wrote:
Anyone else notice that the one game on Fighting Spirit is always super highly recomended? Or at least so far for groups A, B and C. Love that map.

quite likely because the players have played so many games on it that they know overall how to approach the matchup while Gold Rush and Crossing Fields are two maps that were just sprung on them last minute, thus, less time to prep and practice.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10302 Posts
September 13 2017 03:09 GMT
#259
On September 13 2017 12:03 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 11:52 reincremate wrote:
Anyone else notice that the one game on Fighting Spirit is always super highly recomended? Or at least so far for groups A, B and C. Love that map.

quite likely because the players have played so many games on it that they know overall how to approach the matchup while Gold Rush and Crossing Fields are two maps that were just sprung on them last minute, thus, less time to prep and practice.

i just want to see what gold rush was designed for, some sick sair/reaver in PvZ, crazy drops with terran vs zerg on both sides, and my beloved carriers in PvT.
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
September 13 2017 03:11 GMT
#260
On September 13 2017 12:03 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 11:52 reincremate wrote:
Anyone else notice that the one game on Fighting Spirit is always super highly recomended? Or at least so far for groups A, B and C. Love that map.

quite likely because the players have played so many games on it that they know overall how to approach the matchup while Gold Rush and Crossing Fields are two maps that were just sprung on them last minute, thus, less time to prep and practice.

I personally enjoy watching games on those maps and am always excited to see new maps. But having a classic macro map in a major tournament pool is a good way to produce great games, despite the fact that the maps are arguably fundamentally flawed in minor ways or "overplayed".
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