[SSL] Finals: Bisu vs hero 2015-08-30 - Page 51

On September 01 2015 16:32 Stratos wrote:
I don't know or care what bububu is, I highly doubt Bisu would prepare for the finals with stream on so for that the insights might be mostly irrelevant. As for general streaming practice, as people pointed out Bisu played really well throughout the tour (noticed he got into the finals?) and I don't think one lost game against hero earlier on tells us much. After all, he did only win 3-2 in SSL 9 when no one was questioning his dedication.

It seems you're somewhat emotional about the subject so I don't trust your observations to be unbiased and won't work with them. Unless you're his personal coach I can't trust your evaluations of his mental state either.

But of course you're free to keep believing and preaching whatever ^^

On September 01 2015 17:23 prech wrote:
Additionally, several fans on Ygosu reported that ZerO and EffOrt had both mentioned in their respective streams that they had acted as sparring partners for Bisu in preparation for the finals, which makes it all the more surprising that Bisu performed the way he did.

Such is life. On any given Sunday...

On September 01 2015 16:46 feckless wrote:

Yes, exactly. You don't smash someone completely onesidedly like that, right? Like I said before, the mistakes Bisu made weren't trivial. hero made mistakes, too (and I actually think that losing drones like that, especially as a zerg, isn't trivial), but Bisu wasn't just making mistakes. Sure those errors can add up, but I think there was something far more rooted at play here. He was strategically outclassed (you yourself imply so). To me such destruction is so final it suggests one thing: he was unprepared (perhaps underestimating his opponent) and he was outplayed (by a much-improved player who was psychologically in the zone), plain and simple.

As an aside here, I'm actually curious imagining for a moment if it was hero that had been decimated 3-to-0 and what the reactions would have been? Bisu is such a dominant figure in the current scene it seems almost uncharacteristic for him to go out like that. But if hero had been 3-0'd, how many would have been outright shocked? I'm sure it would have been a surprise to many, but not unexpected. But I can only speculate. hero was completely dominant in this tournament, dropping only one game (to free). But it's like Bisu's complete loss suggests some sort of imbalance in the universe. Just look at some of the posts on this page alone:

On September 01 2015 15:25 Stratos wrote:
Ppl saying Bisu's cheesy play usually isn't all-in but there's a follow-up are right. Imo that is exactly why Bisu went for the all-in, hoping hero would underestimate it and die to it. Makes sense but the drone scout must have been devastating.

I think it was the pressure and nerves that took the better of Bisu rather than lack of practice. Are people actually suggesting he's played godly vs Mind a week or two ago and then didn't practice at all for the finals? Doesn't make sense and I don't see how some Kongdoo ads two months ago play into that at all.

According to Bisu's statement, he didn't participate in SSL10 because the competition was getting the better of him, he would focus so much on it and it became really exhaustive. Not many people really bought it (me included tbh) but if you think about it he's been under this stress for a long time now and there's no saying when you suddenly succumb to it as you grow older. Add to that military worries and general 'what am I doing with my life after this' doubts and you have a recipe for disaster.

I seriously doubt Bisu would storm his own probes because he hasn't been practicing hard for a week. That's the kind of mistake you make when you're under stress or exhausted and from his face it looked like he had both going on. For the first time Bisu really seemed human and it made me feel sympathetic towards him. It's a bit of a sad end to his career if he stops here but maybe he can actually recharge in the military and come back even stronger. Or just move on with his life. Regardless, I'm still very impressed by hero's play throughout the finals and the entire SSL!

On September 02 2015 04:44 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I dont see how the pressure of an SSL even begins to compare to the pressure hes already faced, as a multiple time tourney champion. Practiced or not, I think Bisu came in and just wasnt capable of matching up to hero. He didnt play shaken imo, and him playing shaken would be extremely out of character in the first place. Hero just whooped him, sometimes thats the only answer that fits.

On September 02 2015 05:53 Stratos wrote:

If storming your own probes isn't playing shaken then what is? Do you think it was a good move? Is it ever a good move? I'm genuinely asking this as a bad player.

As for his mental state, I'm sure you can agree that it's not as simple as saying 'pressure was bigger because it was more serious back then'. There's a ton of factors that play into one's mental state and none of us here really have any idea about what's going on in the guy's life/head.. which is why people making assumptions about other people's motives and thoughts (especially people they only know very superficially) are usually completely wrong. After all, we can see that happening in the forums here all the time.

On September 01 2015 03:07 FlaShFTW wrote:

He's continuing to impress and improve. I think he has the best work ethic atm in the scene. he forced himself to learn to play ZvT with like a 40% win rate and then went on a 12 game win streak. Continues to improve his ZvZ and his ZvP still looks incredible.

On September 02 2015 23:21 c3rberUs wrote:
I'm curious as to how Koreans are reacting to this. Are they debating about the same things we are?