october 25 Shinhan 2 OSL Round of 8

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On October 24 2006 23:16 Plexa wrote:
Hey! superjongman
guess who i think is going to win anytime vs gorush?

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On October 24 2006 23:32 skyglow1 wrote:
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Plexa wtf is with your "Did you know" thing? Its starting to get really annoying now;;

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On October 25 2006 03:38 FireBatLover wrote:
Where are you guys watching these games? or where are the replays at?

On October 25 2006 03:58 DJEtterStyle wrote:
GF showed a lot of his old TvP form here. Overly-conservative play leading to him getting rolled because he refused to move out. I thought we were in for a new, aggressive GF after his games against Bisu, but no, no, no.

On October 25 2006 04:00 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
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Agreed ... why didn't he use his extremly well timed and well combined with troops pushing style?

On October 25 2006 04:08 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Speaking of pretty boys, Nada's new hair--or at least his hair for his match this evening--is the hotness.

On October 25 2006 04:38 FrozenArbiter wrote:
If Iris wins I'll be 4/4!

On October 25 2006 04:35 Aepplet wrote:
ok to sum it up: gorush playing like an idiot trying to counter zeal/ht/archon with lings/hydras. worst rape in a long time... GG

didnt utilize his tech at all, he had a blooming economy but didnt produce anything substantial.

On October 25 2006 05:06 AyOnY wrote:
did anyone catch the apms in gorush v anytime?

On October 25 2006 05:08 AyOnY wrote:
around 300 from both players?

On October 25 2006 07:18 oj- wrote:
50% of the tosses in this OSL made it to the semis HAHAHAHA

Can't wait for pvt's hope for a pvt final

On October 25 2006 09:28 Wasabi wrote:
haha 3/4 (got rock vs GF wrong)... not bad I guess.

On October 25 2006 07:23 SayGG wrote:
Nada vs Anytime would be great.

On October 25 2006 11:20 SuperJongMan wrote:
OMG are we gonna see Rock in a Final Four?? LOL that would be so awesomely funny.
Go Rock~ You deserve one final four... just cuz... He's the best "consistant" non former champion toss ever.

On October 25 2006 23:31 Mortality wrote:
I must admit that I am shaken by Gorush's loss, especially given all the energy I spent arguing that Gorush is a ZvP star and that ZvP is his strongest matchup. A part of me whishes I had stayed up all the way to see the game and try and figure out what was going through Gorush's head, but by the sounds of it not enough was. I still think Anytime is over-hyped. If he were not a champion, nobody would give two shits about him, or at least that is what I feel. His record is that of a very average player, not only overall but in every matchup (about 50% wins in every matchup) and he very often doesn't make it look pretty when he plays. His great talent is his ability to devise preset strategies revolving around unique build orders. It's a good talent, but he's no Ra by any stretch of the imagination. I guess people just like him because they think he is a great toss hope since he happened to come on during an era when toss was at a low, yet far more impressive I think was Reach's desperate hang on as the lone toss player doing anything at all back two years ago, or Ra standing up and giving a speech in support of Protoss players after a major league win during a time where few toss players were having any success at all.

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On October 26 2006 07:29 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
so anytime makes his opponents look like piece of shit players and u're saying that shows how bad anytime is? your arguments only get worse stop the anytime hating allready, he has way less fanboys than he deserves.

On October 26 2006 01:27 Mortality wrote:
Anytime by contrast either makes it look elegant or makes it look ugly. I also think he's had some luck recently with being able to win games he shouldn't, and not just in PvZ either. I really don't think he deserved that win over Casy on Arcadia during the group stages. Casy just has unusually weak macro for an S-class progamer and Anytime was able to stall by mass suiciding units. I like when a player is in such control that they can keep the pressure up non-stop (Savior vs Kingdom game 2, this MSL), but Anytime reminded me of someone slamming his head into a wall until the wall breaks. Not pretty.

On October 26 2006 07:29 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
so anytime makes his opponents look like piece of shit players and u're saying that shows how bad anytime is? your arguments only get worse stop the anytime hating allready, he has way less fanboys than he deserves.

On October 26 2006 10:00 ~chut~ wrote:


So basically, you're saying Anytime was just lucky that Casy sucked hard that day?
I think you're biased, because Casy has a pretty shitty tvp so it was really no surprises he lost that game. Anyway, you call Casy an "S class pro", well one of the best pro atm, but i don't agree, he won his osl abusing his excellent tvz. Silver is given a chance to win a msl that was full of excellent players, yet would you call him an s class pro?

Anytime is not the best player in the world, he doesn't have an astounding mu where he's unstoppable, but he's more than a decent player. i'd say he would consistently destroy Casy, he won 2 bo5 against oov and boxer and he proved to be quite capable in pvz and pvp. His ratio is so-so? well you said yourself you have to be careful with ratio when talking about Stork.

You can always talk about the way his games look like, that's not a point where one can be objective, some will think he's using too much stupid do or die strats, some will think is a genius.
I don't really like Anytime, but i respect his play and i consider him completely able to win this osl.

On October 26 2006 11:10 Mortality wrote:


Christ dude, did you actually read what I wrote? Let me reiterate: Anytime either wins with an elegant strategy and strong control or he makes it look terribly ugly. When he loses he makes it look ugly and even quite often when he wins he makes it look ugly. He's nowhere near consistent at "making his opponents look like piece of shit players" as you expect a true champion to be.

Sun Tzu said "What the ancients called a clever warrior is one who not only wins, but excels at winning with ease." Savior is a clever warrior. Oov is a clever warrior. Those guys make it look easy. Anytime is not a clever warrior since most of the time he makes it look ugly. Capiche?

On October 26 2006 07:27 SuperJongMan wrote:
Also, Anytime's wins this season only seem to make the zerg look stupid because they failed. His games vs GGPlay and GoRush so far lead me to believe he is definately the best PvZ out here with Ra atm.

On October 26 2006 11:25 Mortality wrote:


The only matchup where the statistics don't fully explain his ability is PvT, in which he has faced a number of top gamers but not a list quite so exclusively of top gamers as Stork has had the bad luck of playing.

My point about the game with Casy was that Anytime did not dominate it as one would expect when placing a player with weak macro (Casy) on a macro map against somebody known as a macro toss.



I really don't think there's any justification in rating Anytime over guys like Rock (who has consistently appeared in starleagues for quite some time now) or Pusan (who hasn't won but has made multiple top 4 appearances and done a better job qualifying for individual leagus), and I don't see him as being as talented as Reach or even Daezang (who has shown us he has the skills but hasn't managed to put up any big results with them yet) and Kingdom and Ra are just flat more dominant. And don't give Kingdom shit about having bad PvZ since he just faced two huge ZvP monsters back-to-back. His lifetime win percentage against Zerg is much more indicative of his PvZ skill with 55% wins and just as good if not a better list of Zergs he has toppled than Anytime has.

On October 26 2006 12:07 lightman wrote:
looks like Midas is having personal problems, From "flawless terran" he has gone to "everyone beat me" terran. testie , cobo, draco , july, now iris....

On October 26 2006 12:25 Legionnaire wrote:
When did GF join KTF ?