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Google translator says, "Shoes Korean Bank line star league season 2 (in the afternoon 6:30 live broadcast)."
To me, anyway, that means that the OSL is on at 18:30 Korean time, which happens to be one hour and 30 minutes from now!
As HonestTea notes in his thread here, the games this evening are as follows:
Casy (T, OGN) vs Midas (T, SKT) on Tau Cross
JiHyun (Z, Samsung) vs FireBatHero (T, Samsung) on New Peaks of Baekdu
Yellow (Z, KTF) vs Shine[Name] (T, OGN) on Arcadia II
Rock (P, Pantech) vs Sea (T, MBCgame) on Arkanoid
Zergman (Z, Samsung) vs Nada (T, Pantech) on Arkanoid
Cloud (T, OGN) vs GGPlay (Z, Hanbit) on Tau Cross
My esteemed predictions:
Casy > Midas. Even with the OGN curse and Midas' recent surge to glory, I just think Casy has better TvT than Midas--sorry SKT1 fans.
JiHyun > Firebathero. Recent games on the map have led me to believe that the new version of Peaks is not the joke--balanced-wise--that the original was. Beyond that, JiHyun's on a mini-winning streak whereas FBH has shown that he has some chinks in his armor. I wouldn't be surprised to see either player win, but I'm going with the Suicide Zerg on this one.
Yellow > Shine. Yellow's a better player, plain and simple, and the map is quite balanced.
Sea > Rock. Arkanoid, in my very limited experience, gives T an advantage over P. But that doesn't even matter; I'd expect Sea to mop the floor with Rock on practically any map.
Nada > Zergman. This is another toss-up, but I'm going with Nada because of my current opinion that Arkanoid is a heavily Terran-favored map.
GGPlay > Cloud. GGPlay has strong ZvT (his only really strong matchup, in my opinion), is on a hot streak, and the map is quite balanced. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cloud pull some glorious giant-crushing out of his ass, but GGPlay is the safe call here.
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will someone be kind enough to post the previous results briefly, coz I was on no i-net vacation for 20 days and dont want to search treat by treat for them
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On September 06 2006 01:15 M2 wrote:
will someone be kind enough to post the previous results briefly, coz I was on no i-net vacation for 20 days and dont want to search treat by treat for them
http://www.replays.hu/nOia/korea.htm <= here
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gogo Nada and FireBatHero
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Terran go 5/6 today (with Casey > Midas)
Yellow spoils the Terran fun..
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Casy < Midas because of THE COMING CURSE
Firebat > Jihyun i dont know i like his name
Yellow > sunshine yellow should win
Sea >>> rock
NADA >>> zergman
Cloud > ggplay cloud is good
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My picks:
Midas>Casy Midas has been pretty hot and I just don't believe in casy's tvt. Oh and I like Midas better anyway.
Firebathero>JiHyun I like firebat's tvz and I don't know JiHyun well enough. Plus Firebathero is like the coolest screename there is ^^.
Yellow>Shine[Name] Yellow just outclasses this guy and I'm a sucker for old school.
Rock>Sea This was tough and I'm probably wrong in felling rock will win but it's one of those gut feelings.
Zergman>Nada Although Nada is Nada, Zergman has impressed me of late and I just like the kid.
GGplay>Cloud This was easy for me, Ggplay has been on fire and cloud... well... I just don't think he'll be able to do anything.
K, feel free to critque my esteemed predictions  .
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Midas > Casy. Midas' TvT has improved a lot lately and he seems to have Casy's number. Beat him 3-2 in some Challenge League finals a while ago and then 2-0 during Korean WCG qualifiers. That plus the OSL curse. Then again it can go either way.
Firebathero > Jihyun. I think Firebat has a big big potential, more so than Jihyun, and the map still looks T>Z.
Yellow > Shine. Never saw Shine's TvZ but I'm sure ZvT is still Yellow's best.
Sea > Rock. Sea has an amazing TvP, while Rock is quite inconsistent at it. And I think it's a potentially T>P map.
Nada > Zergman. No brainer. I hate Zergman's ZvT, and even though Nada's worst matchup is TvZ lately (by far), I'm pretty confident he'll rape Zergman.
Cloud > GGPlay. As I said in the liquibets comments, both Cloud's TvZ and GGPlay's ZvT are imo underrated. But Cloud's TvZ even more so. He kinda blows at TvT (don't know about TvP, he seems to never play TvP), but his TvZ is top-notch. I wonder what his record is in the matchup, but I'm quite sure it's impressive.
Anyway, woo, that's a lot of TvZ. :o
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Midas > Casy : Curse ftl + i dislike Casy and i like Midas
Jihyun > FBH : New peaks seems quite good for zergs for now
Yellow > Shine : i don't know shine at all, reputation vote =)
Rock > Sea : Rock often manages to pull out a win when no one expect him to
Nada > Zergman : it should be a good game but i have more faith in Nada than in Zergman
GGplay > Cloud : i don't really care about both players, i just went with GGplay because he's doing well atm
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Will you live report PoP? 
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On September 06 2006 02:03 ~chut~ wrote:Will you live report PoP?
sure :>
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shibby thx pop
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so is 18:30 in now or in 1h?
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On September 06 2006 01:06 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Google translator says, "Shoes Korean Bank line star league season 2 (in the afternoon 6:30 live broadcast)."
the fuck?
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On September 06 2006 02:37 AyOnY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 01:06 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Google translator says, "Shoes Korean Bank line star league season 2 (in the afternoon 6:30 live broadcast)."
the fuck?
Online translators are not very effective, and they're even less effective with Asian languages. ^^
Coverage should be starting soon.
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starleague coverage started
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url plz ?! 
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casy 60% win tvt
midas 46%
game starting soon on Tau Cross
music sucks so far but wait, do i hear SOULFLY?????? OMFGGGGGG! <3
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On September 06 2006 02:47 Evilmonkey. wrote:
Anyone reporting?
i'll give it a shot
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It's better if we don't all report at the same time. I'll do some of the next games then.
Gogo Sabbath.
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Full
Still wondering how to use search fonction in afreeca... -_-
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On September 06 2006 02:51 Totoro wrote:Full
and its buffering like there's no tomorrow =(
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casy red T @1, midas green T @5 on Tau Cross
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midas quick barracks at middle of map, casy sends his scv there right away
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... and he doesnt see it yet. casy starts barracks now, midas' almost done
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Someone who has a stream with available slots?
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marine out, barracks placement prevents casy scouting scv from sdeeing it, casy finds midas' base with refinery done, casy starts factory and 2 marine start attacking him
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5 scv perfectly surround a marine and kill it, the other one runs away, now casy defends with 1 marine and 5 scv again, fends off the attack losing 1 scv, midas backs off
both have fac done, midas has 6 marine near the middle, they meet a vulture right as casy's vult and marines come, but casy backs off, midas attacks, casy building bunker , stops the attack with scvs and 2 vults and has starport done, building addon
midas starts cc at nat and has tank now
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check for channel Se Ya or [Se Ya]
or search for my name, RickJSanchez
many spots in this channel with no lag
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casy standard fac-port with few cloaked wraiths, midas nat done, a cloaked wraith attacks his scvs
2 wraiths kill several scvs then run away, casy is finishing his 2nd fac and his cc which he will then have to float to his nat
midas has several tanks and gols, and is basically just macroing now as casy moves forward with his tanks and sieges near the middle-right of the map, he has 4th factory building now
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On September 06 2006 02:59 PuertoRican wrote:
check for channel Se Ya or [Se Ya]
or search for my name, RickJSanchez
many spots in this channel with no lag
Thanks, but unfortunately, afreeca search function is complete shit.  Oh well.
Edit: It was "see ya". zzangrock, gotta remember!
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casy advances, kills a dropship with 2 gols inside and stats on his 2nd expansion just as midas started his
midas has a much bigger army but cant move through the bridge which has casy's tanks on the other side
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as midas was scouting mid-left, casy moves his tanks forward and sieges up, midas sends a part of his army through the other side but casy flanks with a big army and kills everything
midas gets pissed off and attacks casy's 2nd nat but casy defends with tanks and scvs (loses all scvs there but doesnt kill everything), both just siege up and casy keeps his 2nd nat while starting a 3rd expansion
casy moving out with 3 dropship, kills some units but midashad more further back, both lose ssome units but its pretty much even right now
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white guys in the studio!
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they just showed a white woman and man in the audience, randomly.
Midas is ahead with 3 base and more units.
Cast just got his 3rd base up, less units.
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Midas, you promised me if I gave you that blow job you would earn me a liquibet point, so when I come back from eating dinner there had better be a damn liquibet point wating for me.
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Channel mirdosa is working too
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casy wasted tons of units to siege tanks
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casy starts yet another expansion and his 3rd one is already i, he is expanding a lot with just 4 facs while midas has 7fac and only 2 exp
midas' 3rd exp is done at top left but no scvs there yet
casy moves out and picks off some of midas' units, midas counters through the other path to casy's main and manages to siege up there with a lot of tankgol
casy tries to stop it with scv and his entire army but midas still has a couple tanks and gols there, casy lost a lot there
midas sends some units to casy's 3rd exp , casy cant defend because of the tank contain
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midas is just massing a lot of shit at the middle and taking over the map now, killing casy's 2nd nat
casy just doesnt have enough units to stop him so he has only his nat now
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casy moves out with tanks, gols and 5 dropship, meets midas' huge army, huge battle
midas wins that with some tanks left and has a huge lead now
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Casy lost this game due to him not sieging when he attacks.
multiple times.
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On September 06 2006 03:13 PuertoRican wrote:
Casy lost this game due to him not sieging when he attacks.
multiple times.
hmm imo casy played risky and it didnt work, he expanded like 4 times while midas was just macroing with twice as many facs and less exps, so midas just walked over him when he realized what was happening
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what do you mean no.
were you watching the game at all?
Casy entered those 2 last big battles w/o sieging, and died because of it.
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On September 06 2006 03:15 PuertoRican wrote:
what do you mean no.
were you watching the game at all?
Casy entered those 2 last big battles w/o sieging, and died because of it.
midas had a much bigger army, casy didnt siege because he was flanking and using scvs to make up for his lack of units due to only having 4 fac
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casy tried to take advantage of the fact that there are two bridges at the middle so he would siege up there and take more expansions while midas would hopelessly macro and not be able to move through anyway, but it didnt work, bridges are too big i guess or maybe he just miscalculated how much macro he needed to pull it off
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JiHyun looks like boxer
firebathero looks like yellow with those glasses, rofl
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gwen stefani for jihyun O:
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On September 06 2006 03:24 Sabbath wrote:JiHyun looks like boxer firebathero looks like yellow with those glasses, rofl
Got pic of JiHyun ?
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lol that doesnt really look like boxer
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On September 06 2006 03:25 AyOnY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 03:24 Sabbath wrote:JiHyun looks like boxer firebathero looks like yellow with those glasses, rofl Got pic of JiHyun ?
nope sorry
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On September 06 2006 03:26 Totoro wrote:
Lost stream T_T
search for ww215
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alright i'll report game 2
map sin peaks of baekdu
jihyun on bottom, firebat on top
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it doesn on the live stream though
game started, jihyun zerg at 7, firebathero terran at 1, map is New Peaks of Baekdu
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On September 06 2006 03:28 PoP wrote:
alright i'll report game 2
map sin peaks of baekdu
jihyun on bottom, firebat on top
ok gogogo
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jihyun attempts to 12 hatch at nat but firebat delays it with his scouting scv
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firebat delayed it for like 30 seconds, good job here
he opened quite standardly but it looks like he'll expand after first rax
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jihyun has 6 lings out
firebat starts an acad
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jihyun's getting lair but has 0 drone at his expo yet
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On September 06 2006 03:28 rain~ wrote:search for ww215
thx a lot =)
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Thankgod my bj didn't got to waste. Alright firebat I believe in you!
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acad done, firebat starts a CC at his nat while scaring the few lings out
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jihyun has one sunken and a second one morphing
firebat checks them out with a few m&m&f and pulls back
now checking bottom right and finds nothing
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spire up for jihyun
first mutas out
firebat has ebay though and turrets should be up in time
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firebat makes 4 turrets at nat making it impossible to pick up scvs
also 2 in main, so he's pretty much safe
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jihyun manages to get a few scv/marines kills though
but 2 base Z vs 2 base T doesn't work very well and imo he should take bottom right asap before firebat gathers too many units for him to deal with
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oh, he has already taken bottom right actually
no drones yet though
lurker tech up
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firebat making some tanks
one gets killed by jihyun's mutas
pretty good harrassment job considering firebat's defense
4 speed OLs now looking like they'll drop something in firebat's main
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ah, firebat spots them and jihyun pulls back
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bottom right is now running smooth for jihyun
still wandering around with mutas trying to harrass what's harrassable
firebat is still making tanks, also adding 3 rax
looks like he'll trust his scans and won't go vessels for a while
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wow, jihyun drops lots of lurks from the left of firebat's base, just behind the mineral line
all scvs are forced to transfer
firebat going for the counter, towards bottom right, with a pretty nice m&m&tank army
actually he has a vessel out, i was wrong
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worst attack by jihyun i ever saw -_-
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whoa good micro by FBH, total rape there, it was a small force by the Z though
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
i missed pop's reports !
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jihyun tries to defend with lurker/lings/mutas but firebat displays amazing micro (including a defmatrixed marine) and crushes everything
bottom right is dead
but jihyun still has his lurkers inside firebat's main
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firebat now going for jihyun's nat
it's falling easily
but jihyun is making guardians! firebat rushes into jihyun's main and kills as many drones as possible before guardians clean them
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firebat also has cleaned his main from lurkers and looks to have a huge lead right now
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zerg cost himself the game by the one attack where he didn't burrow and walked his men into an attack.
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firebat spots jihun's latest expo attempt at 8
and irradiates the guardians
it's over
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firebat goes for jihyun's nat again and rapes all the drones with auto-irradiate
gg
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very strong performance from firebat, this guy looks really promising
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poor jihyun he really got the game until he fucked up a stupid attack to defend his 5 expo
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On September 06 2006 03:44 PoP wrote:
very strong performance from firebat, this guy looks really promising
hard to tell, since the zerg wasted his units.
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Best lurker micro award clearly doesn't go to jihyun =)
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FBH seems to have a really strong and agressive tvz
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On September 06 2006 03:45 PuertoRican wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 03:44 PoP wrote:
very strong performance from firebat, this guy looks really promising hard to tell, since the zerg wasted his units.
yeah, wasn't savior/july for sure, but he's got some real potential imho
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On September 06 2006 03:45 PuertoRican wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 03:44 PoP wrote:
very strong performance from firebat, this guy looks really promising hard to tell, since the zerg wasted his units. dont forget that this is the guy responsible for keeping boxer out of OSL
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On September 06 2006 03:47 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 03:45 PuertoRican wrote:On September 06 2006 03:44 PoP wrote:
very strong performance from firebat, this guy looks really promising hard to tell, since the zerg wasted his units. yeah, wasn't savior/july for sure, but he's got some real potential imho
Agreed!
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0/2! I'm cutting my losses and going to sleep.
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old school time
arcadia is largely Z>>>>>T so yellow should win this unless shine pulls a boxer (either 8rax or something creative )
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i wouldnt mind so many commercials if they showed the vitamin-c thing girl more often
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427 APM firebat (peak = 593). :x
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On September 06 2006 03:57 PoP wrote:
427 APM firebat (peak = 593). :x
wow cool~ NaDa style lol~
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lol I didn't notice Jihyun screwed up that much with those lurkers.
I still think firebat would have come out on top with his defmatrixed marine but Jihyun defenitely handed the game to him there.
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ahah they showed jihyun suicide @ 0.5x speed
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yeah i hadnt noticed it either, i guess mostly because fbh had more and killed everything so fast
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alright i'll at least start it
map: arcadia 2
yellow bottom left, shine top left
yellow scouting the right way
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yellow 12 hatches at nat
standard opening from shine so far
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nat hatch up and running
shine has scouted yellow's opening and opts for a fast acad build
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shine moves out with his first marines + one medic to put pressure on yellow, while meantime starting a CC at nat
yellow has one sunken and another one morphing
shine still attempts to break it with like 5 marines and one medic but fails (killed one or two drones though)
yellow also scouted shine with sneaky lings and is starting a spire
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Damned! 4 turrets in nat again ^^
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shine's nat CC is now running
he makes some turrets around it (enough to be totally safe), + one in main
massing rax so far, no tech
yellow has drop tech and is making a secret expo at 3
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yellow kills a few scouting scvs here and there
checks out shine's nat and notices he can't do shit vs so many turrets
shine moves out with a pretty nice m&m army
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yellow has 4 sunkens and is making 3 more :o
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shine doesn't attack
yellow drops some drones at his secret expo, he's now going greater spire
no sign of lurkers yet
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shine's tech?
PS: hi guys!
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oh sorry yellow had taken the 9 expo as well (looks too much like the 3 one)
so he has his nat + 9 + 3
shine has a dropship out
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shine drops the defenseless 9 and kills all the drones + the hatch
shine's tech is slow, i think he has one fac and one port now but still no tank/vessel
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pssh i was wrong, the expo shine dropped was the one at 3
he now drops 9 but yellow defends
ah, shine has cloaked wraiths now to counter the guardians :o
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shine also has a giant m&m army and just took the 12 expo
yellow should so something soon or he's pretty much screwed
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actually i think he's already screwed
shine's eco is just scary
ah, yellow is now making ultras
if he saved enough gas he might do something but i'm doubtful
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yellow attempts to harrass 12 but his mutas get irradiated and there's like 5 turrets anyway
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wow lots of ultras meet with the giant m&m army
5-6 of them get irradiated but yellow uses that to kill the running marines
he also made more guardians
proceeds to kill 12 but loses all of his guards
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yellow will attempt a ultraling drop in shine's main very soon
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drop made and shine's main is getting raped
shine coming back to defend with his main army while double DS dropping 9
yellow also sends some ultras/lings to 12 which was running again
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shine finally cleans his main but more ultralings are on their way to his nat with defiler support
swarm + ultralings raping everything
yellow wins
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shine keeps dropping yellow's expands (yellow took some expos in the bottom left though he desn't have many drones there) but his main/nat is getting wiped out
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thought it looked promising for Shine T_T
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GG from shine.
Impressive play by yellow, he made really good decisions and used his units very well.
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it's hong jinho we're talking about!! THE STORM ZERG!! HOW CAN YOU HAVE DOUBTS ON HIM!?!?!
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shine gg
i actually thought shine had a bigger lead, losing half his m&m army to irradiated ultras cost him the game probably
yellow having 3 and 9 running so early must have helped him storing that much gas and gettin such a strong endgame army
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Good job by Shine but i think i should have not surender yet.
Yellow didnt have so much base...
Damned! Stream lost again T_T
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i thought progamers knew that d matrix >>> irradiate in such situations
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I never saw shine having the lead actually. All I saw was shine wondering around cluelessly, waiting for the lurkers to appear. By the time he scouted 3 and 9 the game was already over.
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wow from the the reports, yellow really stormed shine from everywhere 3/3 for me
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On September 06 2006 04:28 Sr18 wrote:
I never saw shine having the lead actually. All I saw was shine wondering around cluelessly, waiting for the lurkers to appear. By the time he scouted 3 and 9 the game was already over.
Well he killed 3 as soon as he had dropships, and his 12 expo was running. It was 2 expo vs 2 at that point, Yellow couldn't do shit with guardians vs the cloaked wraiths and Shine's m&m army was oovesque. It looked like he was reading him completely, but losing 60% of his m&ms without killing anything helped Yellow a lot.
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i just love Yellows ))
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gr8 oldschool strat by yellow i knew he is goin to do that
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Yup, not really a one sided match...
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wow shit I probably was drunk while voting I voted rock lol
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did u notice in those tables there is apm and one plaeyer today had only 198, i guess that was yellow
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alright someone else report the next game(s), lunch time here
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3/3 so far, i'm in the top15 now! personal record!
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Rock P @ top right
Sea T @ top left
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Sea CC
Rock standard build so far with 1 pylon @ 3
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On September 06 2006 04:31 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 04:28 Sr18 wrote:
I never saw shine having the lead actually. All I saw was shine wondering around cluelessly, waiting for the lurkers to appear. By the time he scouted 3 and 9 the game was already over. Well he killed 3 as soon as he had dropships, and his 12 expo was running. It was 2 expo vs 2 at that point, Yellow couldn't do shit with guardians vs the cloaked wraiths and Shine's m&m army was oovesque. It looked like he was reading him completely, but losing 60% of his m&ms without killing anything helped Yellow a lot.
Look at it from this perspective. We all know m&m isn't all that effective versus hive-tech zerg. We know that, unless the Terran has a huge tank army or a massive econ advantage, a zerg with a lot of gas and access to hive-tech has the upper hand in ZvsT.
Yellow had 4 gasses running for quite awhile during the game, and 3 gasses running for most of the game. He also didn't make a single lurker and only made a handful of gas units in midgame, saving him a lot of gas. So, while the expo at 3 did get taken out soon after being scouted, the game was already over at that point. Pure m&m versus 4 gas hive-tech is just not viable.
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Sea killing larvae at 9 with 2 rines and help of kind scvs
Making 2nd fac
Rock with obs and now making nexus
and stream buffering a lot -_-
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reaver @ rock main, maynard his probes.
Sea going Gol for now, no vults no tanks for now
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(Sorry for my bad report -_- first time i do it T_T )
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sea goes for goli drop, while rock has 2 reaver
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2 reaver drop at sea expand
buffering...
some shot on the shuttle
still buffering... dunno if it survives T_T
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rvr harassed expo of sea and killed some scvs
the shuttle got killed by golis
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good reports u2
keep them up, both doing a fantastic job!
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someone with a better stream than ww215?
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sea was attacking the expo of rock but he cleared it with 2 shuttles ans some goons
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rock drops seas expo with 3 shuttles with 1 rvr and some goons
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another drop on sea expand at 9, scv run away again CC down
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sea is going for rocks lower right expo but defended with shuttles
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rock has 5 shuttles , one got killed by dropping into golitank army
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Sea again try to attack base @2 with gol + tanks
only for being crushed again by goons dropped
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sea has 4 dropships and is again going for rocks lower right expo
rock dropped seas top expo with rvr
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argh school starts before nada vs. ggplay. nada ftw. too bad tl is blocked at school :-/
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damned i m late with this buffering T_T
drop on sea 11 base tank defending while scv away (or dead by reaver?)
game with a lot of drop ^^
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sea tried to kill rocks expo at 1 but he could kill seas forces
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who's winning, sea or rock?
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rock 4 shuttles drop between sea main and expo while sea drop 9 expo still army of gol/tanks
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rock lost all shuttles by trying to drop into goli tank army
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go on Rock, spank this newbie
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On September 06 2006 04:54 Elsi wrote:
who's winning, sea or rock?
sea is winning , playing really gay dropping in a little space where rock can't counter drop it and where he can it rock expos
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rock has only his main for resources
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seems that Sea had expand at bottom left, still tanking 3 expo
Big drop in rock main
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GG by rock
Sea win that game by constantly tanking expos...
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on a more random note: a guy that looks exactly like pusan just walked past my window
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On September 06 2006 04:57 Elsi wrote:
damm!
1/4
Hello same here
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On September 06 2006 04:57 Aepplet wrote:
on a more random note: a guy that looks exactly like pusan just walked past my window
LOOOOOOOOOOL
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3/4 !
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fuckkkkkkk i overslept
how could i miss this starleague
3/4 for me so far
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thx rain for the second reporting
Cant make a good job with that constant buffering -_-
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dxxx is full who else is hosting!?
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ww215 is hosting too, but not during commercials.
show some soccer stuff ^^
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wow @ zergman's theme song...........
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Supermulti is broadcasting.Pretty good stream
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Zergman's theme song = best thusfar
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On September 06 2006 05:09 Noun wrote:
wow @ zergman's theme song...........
that piano was unexpected =)
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Zerg at bottom right
Terran at top left
Z taking expo near the larvae
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then adding pool while T making CC
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wow zergman makes a hatchery next to the chrysalis. nada at 11, zergman at 5 btw (arkanoid)
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Nada making aggresiv attack on larvae with scv while zergman making lair at expand
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Den for Zergman killing larvae with 2 glings
4 more killing neutral build to the center.
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zergman is going to kill neutral buildings with his lings
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lings in nadas base got killed by m&ms
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dozen of glings making their way trough the map destroying all neutral building.
arrive at nada main at the same moment medics pops out saving nada
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now the path is free, lurker came at choke ^^
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nada kills lings and 3 lurker
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1 lurker at nads top expo
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agressiv play by zergman getting one lurk attacking expand CC
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On September 06 2006 05:23 rain~ wrote:
ZM morphing lair
i thought he had lurks already o_O
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bunk at choke for nada chassing away the lone lurk from his expand.
adding a turret near the bunk for detection
2 ports for nada and zergman killing larvae at 10 expand. getting a queen nest
2 wraith vs 4 mutas ^^
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1 wraith dancing till his death ^^
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greater spire morphing in for ZM
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Nada taking now 10 expo while zergan getting greater spire
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zergman getting a second hydra den O_o
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and defiler mound morphing
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hmmm zergman builds another hydra den
either he wants to speed + range at the same time or it's just a mistake
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mutas killing marines at 10 expo while nadas M&ms taking the center
zergman morphing 5-6 lurk
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mutas morphing into guardians behind nadas expo @ 12
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2 dropship moving trough the map
damnedddddd stop lurker killing all nada army!!!
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wow nada lost many mms to lurkers
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guardian attacking expo while hydras defeding vs the drop succesfully
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Lurkerhold is so fucking gay ...
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some guardians got irradiated
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Nada is in trouble ^^
Zergman at choke with some lurk
nada irradiates the guardians, and had killed an expo, dunno which
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ZM expands at top right main
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On September 06 2006 05:31 Totoro wrote:
Nada is in trouble ^^
Zergman at choke with some lurk
nada irradiates the guardians, and had killed an expo, dunno which
killed the one near 5
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nada irradiates lurkers at his choke
he has about 6 vessels
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5lurk near nada 's choke being irradiate by 7vessel ^^
Nada's classical TvZ ^^
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zergman is winning big time
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On September 06 2006 04:44 Sr18 wrote:
Look at it from this perspective. We all know m&m isn't all that effective versus hive-tech zerg. We know that, unless the Terran has a huge tank army or a massive econ advantage, a zerg with a lot of gas and access to hive-tech has the upper hand in ZvsT.
I'm not saying the opposite. Yellow had a lot of gas, but Shine had a scary economy, lost something like 3 SCVs to muta harrass, killed an expo freely and had lost hardly anything for the whole game. He pretty much couldn't have done anything better up to that point.
Except I think he shouldn't have run away with his m&m army, those marines were probably well upgraded and I'm not even sure the ultras had their armor upgrade yet (they were the first ultras and they had speed). There weren't many lings to draw fire so I'm pretty sure he could have fought them off. I still think he lost the game there (and by not making any tanks).
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
go NaDa
Zergman became much more better since last year though
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Zergman attacking main under swarm but not that many units.
nada moving his army away from swarm
more hydras coming in nadas main
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
On September 06 2006 05:34 rain~ wrote:
or not hehe
don't scare me
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nada killed many hydras and lurks
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not that really over i think no more defiler,
lots of hydras coming again, buffering,
Woooh nada has 10 barracks!!
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nada drops at ZM's top right expo
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Nada drop zergman 3 expand killing it
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plagueeeeeeeee on mass vessel vs irradiate on defiler ^^
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swarm and pledge is imba T_T ^^
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i think nada is ahead now
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nada kills some hydras with irradiate
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2 mining bases for nada vs 2 mining base for zergman.nice army for nada, lots of marine not that many medics but zergman has no support yet for his hydras.
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nada killed many hydras in front of ZMs base and he killed the last defiler before he could plague or ds
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
i knew it 
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nada killing all Zergman army and the Z gged
lots of crowd now!!
but for soccer program -_-
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really good micro for nada to save the game while he was in very bad position
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Nada win by keeping the same amount of expand trough the game.
Zergman played not that bad, but Nada M&m + mass vessel build is still solid =)
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Now i can bet that GGPlay will rape Cloud ...
Can someone check what was the apm for nada ? i am just wondering
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wow wtf is with this soccer game?? 0:5 after 30 mins?!
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On September 06 2006 05:41 diehilde wrote:
wow wtf is with this soccer game?? 0:5 after 30 mins?!
its already 30 mins in the 2nd half
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medics on the soccer field after one tank shot on the head of one brave defensive player
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Next is Cloud vs GGPlay on Tau Cross.
Last match for today.
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On September 06 2006 05:33 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 04:44 Sr18 wrote:
Look at it from this perspective. We all know m&m isn't all that effective versus hive-tech zerg. We know that, unless the Terran has a huge tank army or a massive econ advantage, a zerg with a lot of gas and access to hive-tech has the upper hand in ZvsT.
I'm not saying the opposite. Yellow had a lot of gas, but Shine had a scary economy, lost something like 3 SCVs to muta harrass, killed an expo freely and had lost hardly anything for the whole game. He pretty much couldn't have done anything better up to that point. Except I think he shouldn't have run away with his m&m army, those marines were probably well upgraded and I'm not even sure the ultras had their armor upgrade yet (they were the first ultras and they had speed). There weren't many lings to draw fire so I'm pretty sure he could have fought them off. I still think he lost the game there (and by not making any tanks).
I don't think you understand me. Yellow didn't mutaharass untill after he got 3 and 9. In fact, he didn't make any army-unit before this point. A straight 4-gas hive build without any harass or contain must be immediatly countered. So Shine could have done a LOT better up to that point. He completely failed to read what yellow was up to and Yellow already had hive tech and 4 gas by the time Shine scanned 3 and 9. Shine lost in the first 10 minutes, not after the ultra's came out.
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Which of the apm numbers is the average one, on the screen that shows the players stats???
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it goes like this
Avg. Apm
Apm Highest
Apm Lowest
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i believe average is the first one ,middle is highest and and the last is apm min
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So how much apm they both had ?
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nada rocks, even with hold lurkers =]
sk-terran pure style
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
On September 06 2006 05:49 Resonate wrote:
nada rocks, even with hold lurkers =]
sk-terran pure style
more like pantech terran style
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On September 06 2006 05:47 puLs.ReADy wrote:
So how much apm they both had ?
NaDa had 387, Zergman had 296 (I think)
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On September 06 2006 05:47 puLs.ReADy wrote:
So how much apm they both had ?
Nada avg was about 390
ZM avg was about 290
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On September 06 2006 05:51 PaleMan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 05:49 Resonate wrote:
nada rocks, even with hold lurkers =]
sk-terran pure style more like pantech terran style
more like Nada classical TvZ style
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I think NaDa got lucky, I'm sure he'll get his ass kicked someday if he keeps using sk for every single tvz he plays.
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Starting.
Cloud T @ top right
GGplay Z @ 10
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Cloud wall with depot on choke
adding barrack
GGplay hatch before pool
Cloud adding second barrack
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Cloud is blocking his choke with a depot
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barrack lifting ^^ and going the other side of the base ^^
pumiping marine
GGplay adding one hatch after pool had finished + sunk @ expand
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On September 06 2006 05:45 Sr18 wrote:
I don't think you understand me. Yellow didn't mutaharass untill after he got 3 and 9. In fact, he didn't make any army-unit before this point. A straight 4-gas hive build without any harass or contain must be immediatly countered. So Shine could have done a LOT better up to that point. He completely failed to read what yellow was up to and Yellow already had hive tech and 4 gas by the time Shine scanned 3 and 9. Shine lost in the first 10 minutes, not after the ultra's came out.
Sorry but I just disagree. Shine would have been fucked if he hadn't killed 3, but he did it right away after his first DS was out and that was the best he could have done (after making sure Yellow spent as much money as possible in sunkens). Yellow had lots of gas for sure, but 3 base is definitely NOT enough, mineral-wise, to keep making ultra/lings/defilers as he was doing. If Shine had defended better (read: not run away like a fag with ~60 upgraded m&m vs 6-7 ultras and a dozen of lings), while making sure to keep dropping Yellow's attempts, I'm convinced he would have won. By a mile.
Now we'll never know.
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6rines + 2 medics for cloud outside his base
GGplay just see the troups moving!
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On September 06 2006 05:53 Totoro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2006 05:51 PaleMan wrote:On September 06 2006 05:49 Resonate wrote:
nada rocks, even with hold lurkers =]
sk-terran pure style more like pantech terran style more like Nada classical TvZ style
i'm 99% sure nada invented sk-terran style, i always wondered why it was called sk-terran
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Belgium6777 Posts
What channel are you guys on?
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cloud passing trough the sunken morphing, killing glings just morphed
lots of kills by the firebats.
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On September 06 2006 05:58 Xeofreestyler wrote:
What channel are you guys on?
ww215
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Belgium6777 Posts
Btw SK terran isnt sk because of SKTelecom.
It comes from SoulKey, the 'first' player to use it.
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haha suck it up ggplay =]
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GGplay still alive, cloud killing his depot @ choke and adding 2 barracks + 1 CC
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On September 06 2006 05:59 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Btw SK terran isnt sk because of SKTelecom.
It comes from SoulKey, the 'first' player to use it.
Thankyou, i never knew that.
I guess nada was one of the first to really popularise it cos of his influence.
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ggplay adding 2 more sunk at expand making 6 for now.
just scanned by cloud, his arway awaiting near.
fac for cloud and ggcloud morphing a spire
no gas at expand for cloud right now pumping mainly marines/medics
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On September 06 2006 05:58 Resonate wrote:
i'm 99% sure nada invented sk-terran style, i always wondered why it was called sk-terran
Well it was first invented by a progamer named Kim Seul Ki, that's where SK came from (his first name initial)
But NaDa is the one who modernized it pretty much.
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mutas out, cant do anything on the expand
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just picking some wandering marines/firebats + 1 tank!
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Cloud had 2 tanks but both got killed by mutas
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Please win ggplay i want 4/6! Oh and really nice reports rain and totoro, serously .
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GGPlay has amazing muta control and displays it again. <3
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tank near sunk justed killed by mutas,
5barracks for cloud
great job by ggplay killing tanks before they arrive at his choke
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GGPlay kills another tank and some rines with mutas
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
On September 06 2006 06:05 Evilmonkey. wrote:Please win ggplay i want 4/6! Oh and really nice reports rain and totoro, serously .
no way, Cloud all the way
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Cloud starting to tanking sunken line
great fight kill the tank with mutas/lurk/glings
cloud losing some marine at GGplay choke but killed new expand
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GGPlay has lurkers now and killed some rines and a tank at his choke
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GGPlay really needs another expo.
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It's just amazing how ggplay can fight so well with just 2 gas
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Oh Cloud has 3. GGPlay has to do something about it asap.
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great battle with some nice micro on d matrixed marine.
no real winner. GG play expanding again
cloud irradiates some lurk moving while glings killed the tanks moving with marines
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Cloud has taken 3 base macroing hard now
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some irradiates on defiler
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2 rines attacking one hatch at 8 expand
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GGplay try to kill some m&m army with cover of swarm but doesnt do much...
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GGPlay has better control but those drones lost at the beginning plus Cloud's very good macro/decisions will cost him the game probably.
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Everytime I read GGPlay I immediatly suspect GG from one player It just reads the same way
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Cloud killing all expos...
a vult raid killed almost drones at 12expand (i think)
nice scourging killing3-4 wandering vessels
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It's over, GGPlay just doesn't have enough money.
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cloud new attempt at ggplay choke, but swarm delay it
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some plague for defense too but cloud army doesnt go back
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ggplay succed in breaking choke with much effort but has no expand...
one scourge just killed a lone DS
cloud losing a lot of m&m army by lurk
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GGplay by gg
oops ^^
GG by GGplay after cloud big army come to the last expo at 12
Great fight by ggplay but Cloud's cheese gain him a major advantage
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5/6
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damn 4/6
ggplay put up a really good fight
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Russian Federation1953 Posts
yeah, 5/6 neo boxer failed me
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well ggplay lost the game against that cheese strat losing almost all his drones... the rest of the game showed that ggplay is clearly the better player and if it wasnt for the succeeded cheese, he would have crushed cloud
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3/6
Not so bad after last week (1/4 1/6 =.=;; )
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weee 5/6
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Hope my reports werent too bad -_-
HF dudes =)
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271 vs 277 APM
almost the same =)
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nice reports totoro
thx ;p
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thnx for reports, guys
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5/6
believed in JiHyun.
costed a lot places down.
but not as much as 0/3 in yesterdays survivor ;d ;d ;d
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good reports, not that bad of a liquibet day and my blow job paid off .
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5/6 but i fucking knew betting on Rock was dumb when i did it =]
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On September 06 2006 06:18 sztuczyn wrote:
3/6
Not so bad after last week (1/4 1/6 =.=;; )
haha the same situation with me
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On September 06 2006 06:31 Musli wrote:
5/6
believed in JiHyun.
costed a lot places down.
but not as much as 0/3 in yesterdays survivor ;d ;d ;d
You mean 0/4 no ?
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Good week 6/6 , thanks for the reports!
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3/6. Almost out of the top 100 now T_T
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sweet, 6/6, thats 10 in a row now!
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I am very.. very... very very very sad right now.
Casy has to beat July now.
July has to beat Anytime and lose to Casy.
Anytime must lose all his games... July AND Midas.
Oh god... That will ruin my liquibet season but whatever for Casy.
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On September 06 2006 05:53 Noun wrote:
I think NaDa got lucky, I'm sure he'll get his ass kicked someday if he keeps using sk for every single tvz he plays.
actually, you'd be really surprised how frequently nada uses tanks. but sk allows for some crazy comebacks with irradiate.
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Just watched the VODs and here are my 2 cents:
Absolutly brilliant defense by Nada. I don't know what would have happend if Zergman killed the 9 o'clock expo when he was in Nada's base (Zergman totally missed it. He just had to walk there with some of his hyds), but still I think Nada did a good job. And thanks to Zergman for proving that TvZ on Arcanoid can be balanced. (after watching Midas vs July I was afraid of T>>Z)
And for the other game on Arkanoid:
I really hope that Rock used the wrong strategy, or just played bad. Otherwise its T>>P. Those hidden areas where Sea dropped seem to favour terran so much. Sea secured those Areas, although they were directly next to Rocks bases AND he was heavily investing in two new Expos at 5 and 7. I really hope Ra will show all other tosses how to handle those unfair attacks. (or maybe even Bisu can). Otherwise the map has to be fixed, so that siege tanks can't reach the nexus anymore.
But still, besides its not yet clear if its balanced, I have to say: I love Arkanoid. (altough I will never play on this map. The unit pathing is so awful when just some of the pathways aren't open yet. And for manoevering all my units manually, my lack of APM is just far too big. )
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United States20665 Posts
5/6. Neo Boxer lost.
YellOw fighting~
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In all honestly, it is Neo Boxer's tournament to get raped silly only to return 2 seasons later as some pro-gamer murdering machine and then... and then.. we shall see -_-;;
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where did u get the vods --
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On September 06 2006 21:07 AyOnY wrote:
where did u get the vods --
Clubbox.
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do you need to pay, if no how do you register, is it fast, link? thank you
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pay: no, the basic download is free.
register: you need a korean ID to register. I'm using my korean afreeca account.
speed: maximum is 50 kB/s. sometimes slower. If you want do download faster, you have to pay.
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