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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 04:43:37
March 26 2012 04:41 GMT
#1061
On March 26 2012 13:37 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 13:30 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On March 26 2012 12:23 puppykiller wrote:
As was brought up earlier, the flaw in DRTL is that many players see no advantage in moving up to CRTL, since they would much rather be their teams celebrated ace player than a relatively bad player among much better players. That disgusting group of people who prefer being relatively good rather than objectively bad (but still better then the former), will force themselves to stagnate.That's why next season, the top performers of DRTL, are being moved up to CRTL.


The harsh truth is that quite a few top performers put up their hand for CRTL who were consistent winners on DRTL and no teams made the effort to express interest and let them know to sign up for them even just as a substitute. The mentality of those players was probably then, "well if nobody really wants me on CRTL then I guess I will sign up for DRTL where I know people will actually want me on the team". Its not like they were rude or anything, there was simply no response, no interest when the posts were made, so we kinda just sat there twiddling our thumbs. One poster even said, I hope we don't have too many D+ players in this league or something around those lines.

I just hope that next season the CRTL will greet D+ players with open arms and let them play even if it comes to the detriment of the team. Although I'm not sure I can see that happening. That's the problem.

Perhaps we should have a D+/C- Team league?

I don't really want to get involved in more drama, but no one from DRTL expressed much interest in CRTL cept me, you and Nikon afaik. - Just to clarify the error in your statement.


True, I don't want to create more drama either but I wanted to address this issue because people kept bringing it up and I believed that it would keep coming up. I know puppy has the right attitude, but this attitude needs to be shared amongst everyone in CRTL I think.

It seemed like more at the time, I edited my post to make it more relevant. Like the fact that no PMs were sent out by teams to take the ace DRTL players on board either even though it was mentioned several times on CRTL thread with the list posted. I'm sure that would have made a difference.

Also 3 out of 3, out of us, none were signed up?
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 04:43:34
March 26 2012 04:42 GMT
#1062
On March 26 2012 13:40 puppykiller wrote:
Ok I apologize for being so rude. Points taken.

You're forgiven, it's not a big deal, just everyone seems to be done with it... I mean, the whole point of holding the discussion here was for Nikon to respond to it. (from my perspective) ... Though its clear now he has no interest in responding to that concern.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
March 26 2012 04:45 GMT
#1063
On March 26 2012 13:41 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 13:37 Eywa- wrote:
On March 26 2012 13:30 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On March 26 2012 12:23 puppykiller wrote:
As was brought up earlier, the flaw in DRTL is that many players see no advantage in moving up to CRTL, since they would much rather be their teams celebrated ace player than a relatively bad player among much better players. That disgusting group of people who prefer being relatively good rather than objectively bad (but still better then the former), will force themselves to stagnate.That's why next season, the top performers of DRTL, are being moved up to CRTL.


The harsh truth is that quite a few top performers put up their hand for CRTL who were consistent winners on DRTL and no teams made the effort to express interest and let them know to sign up for them even just as a substitute. The mentality of those players was probably then, "well if nobody really wants me on CRTL then I guess I will sign up for DRTL where I know people will actually want me on the team". Its not like they were rude or anything, there was simply no response, no interest when the posts were made, so we kinda just sat there twiddling our thumbs. One poster even said, I hope we don't have too many D+ players in this league or something around those lines.

I just hope that next season the CRTL will greet D+ players with open arms and let them play even if it comes to the detriment of the team. Although I'm not sure I can see that happening. That's the problem.

Perhaps we should have a D+/C- Team league?

I don't really want to get involved in more drama, but no one from DRTL expressed much interest in CRTL cept me, you and Nikon afaik. - Just to clarify the error in your statement.


True, I don't want to create more drama either but I wanted to address this issue because people kept bringing it up and I believed that it would keep coming up. I know puppy has the right attitude, but this attitude needs to be shared amongst everyone in CRTL I think.

It seemed like more at the time, I edited my post to make it more relevant. Like the fact that no PMs were sent out by teams to take the ace DRTL players on board either even though it was mentioned several times on CRTL thread with the list posted. I'm sure that would have made a difference.

Also 3 out of 3, out of us, none were signed up?

True, for us three, I entirely agree, but that doesn't take away any merit from puppy's statement. From the list I proposed, no one commented (from either side), not the players who were called out, nor the C ranks teams.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
March 26 2012 04:55 GMT
#1064
On March 26 2012 13:42 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 13:40 puppykiller wrote:
Ok I apologize for being so rude. Points taken.

You're forgiven, it's not a big deal, just everyone seems to be done with it... I mean, the whole point of holding the discussion here was for Nikon to respond to it. (from my perspective) ... Though its clear now he has no interest in responding to that concern.

Stop being inflammatory and disrespectful. Nikon has a life too, it's a Sunday (I wouldn't want to deal with all of this shit as a coordinator on a weekend, I'd rather relax and do what I like to do, maybe get to it later) and I see no reason why he should be expected to give official responses in less than 24 hours.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
March 26 2012 04:57 GMT
#1065
I'd venture to say at least 70% of the posts in this thread are by 3 people. Most involve speculation and antagonization. Would you guys grow up?
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 05:24:12
March 26 2012 05:11 GMT
#1066
On March 26 2012 13:55 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 13:42 Eywa- wrote:
On March 26 2012 13:40 puppykiller wrote:
Ok I apologize for being so rude. Points taken.

You're forgiven, it's not a big deal, just everyone seems to be done with it... I mean, the whole point of holding the discussion here was for Nikon to respond to it. (from my perspective) ... Though its clear now he has no interest in responding to that concern.

Stop being inflammatory and disrespectful. Nikon has a life too, it's a Sunday (I wouldn't want to deal with all of this shit as a coordinator on a weekend, I'd rather relax and do what I like to do, maybe get to it later) and I see no reason why he should be expected to give official responses in less than 24 hours.

I'm not even going to bother since you clearly have an ego issue every time you see me post. I wasn't even further arguing my point, I was just pointing out the purpose of my previous argument.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 05:54:46
March 26 2012 05:54 GMT
#1067
On March 26 2012 14:11 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 13:55 Jealous wrote:
On March 26 2012 13:42 Eywa- wrote:
On March 26 2012 13:40 puppykiller wrote:
Ok I apologize for being so rude. Points taken.

You're forgiven, it's not a big deal, just everyone seems to be done with it... I mean, the whole point of holding the discussion here was for Nikon to respond to it. (from my perspective) ... Though its clear now he has no interest in responding to that concern.

Stop being inflammatory and disrespectful. Nikon has a life too, it's a Sunday (I wouldn't want to deal with all of this shit as a coordinator on a weekend, I'd rather relax and do what I like to do, maybe get to it later) and I see no reason why he should be expected to give official responses in less than 24 hours.

I'm not even going to bother since you clearly have an ego issue every time you see me post. I wasn't even further arguing my point, I was just pointing out the purpose of my previous argument.

Says the guy who BMed me in and out of the game after his loss, including floating his buildings away to different corners of the maps, forcing me to have to eliminate him. Did you BM Jealous like how you did me when he beat you?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
March 26 2012 06:33 GMT
#1068
On March 26 2012 14:54 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 14:11 Eywa- wrote:
On March 26 2012 13:55 Jealous wrote:
On March 26 2012 13:42 Eywa- wrote:
On March 26 2012 13:40 puppykiller wrote:
Ok I apologize for being so rude. Points taken.

You're forgiven, it's not a big deal, just everyone seems to be done with it... I mean, the whole point of holding the discussion here was for Nikon to respond to it. (from my perspective) ... Though its clear now he has no interest in responding to that concern.

Stop being inflammatory and disrespectful. Nikon has a life too, it's a Sunday (I wouldn't want to deal with all of this shit as a coordinator on a weekend, I'd rather relax and do what I like to do, maybe get to it later) and I see no reason why he should be expected to give official responses in less than 24 hours.

I'm not even going to bother since you clearly have an ego issue every time you see me post. I wasn't even further arguing my point, I was just pointing out the purpose of my previous argument.

Says the guy who BMed me in and out of the game after his loss, including floating his buildings away to different corners of the maps, forcing me to have to eliminate him. Did you BM Jealous like how you did me when he beat you?

Stop. seriously. Stop. there is no benefit whatsoever in attacking each other and especially doing so by posting it here.
fozy_pld_warzz
Profile Joined March 2012
1 Post
March 26 2012 06:49 GMT
#1069
I wanna play!

Rank: D
ICCUP account: Mrysnicata
Race: Zerg
S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
March 26 2012 07:09 GMT
#1070
casting now since i am early off from work! ued vs despa.. send me interesting reps if you think your game is good >> klive_love_amaths@Live.com
<3 Katelyn , C Zerg. Dying wish is to watch proleague live and see my girlfriend which gonna be soon! <33
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
March 26 2012 08:41 GMT
#1071
On March 26 2012 16:09 S2Glow wrote:
casting now since i am early off from work! ued vs despa.. send me interesting reps if you think your game is good >> klive_love_amaths@Live.com

I sent you replays of T1vsT4
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
March 26 2012 09:56 GMT
#1072
On March 26 2012 16:09 S2Glow wrote:
casting now since i am early off from work! ued vs despa.. send me interesting reps if you think your game is good >> klive_love_amaths@Live.com


You should cast Psyonic_reaver vs Arya[wok], really interesting game :D
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
March 26 2012 10:17 GMT
#1073
looking for team change im a high D/ low D+ protoss msg me if you are interested
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
March 26 2012 11:23 GMT
#1074
iCCup TV Update!
Find all DRTL games here!

Game 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5GVcSsyQIQ&list=PLCFE937889CDF112C&index=11&feature=plpp_video

Game 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIf2Q4g7h1s&list=PLCFE937889CDF112C&index=12&feature=plpp_video

Game 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pd_M-zl0Os&list=PLCFE937889CDF112C&index=13&feature=plpp_video

Game 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HXDHpoHOA&list=PLCFE937889CDF112C&index=14&feature=plpp_video
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4341 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 15:42:06
March 26 2012 15:07 GMT
#1075
GG's Artanis! After the game we had a nice mannered conversation about the game. Great guy!

TAKK 4-3 team 3

L3gendary <Ground Zero> sGs.Newburg
Artanis[xp] <Neo Aztec> razryv
Arya[wOk] <Jade> PsyonicReaver
BaD]Seed <Circuit Breaker> Skeggaba
sGs.TheAntZ <Match Point> essbee
Dewski <Fighting Spirit> panix
Artanis[xp] <Ground Zero> PsyonicReaver - ACE

FPV here -
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 15:19:43
March 26 2012 15:16 GMT
#1076
Thanks for the game Psyonic_Reaver! GG's. True gentleman as well.
May our paths cross again in the playoffs
VOD can be found here: http://nl.twitch.tv/artanisxp/b/312920682
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 15:38:19
March 26 2012 15:37 GMT
#1077
GGs TAKK, well surely crush you next time around :D

EDIT: Artanis: is someone dying recording that first song ? :O
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
orbit
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 16:05:00
March 26 2012 15:44 GMT
#1078
The first replay for week 4 DesPa vs Courage (Lite[Orbit] vs Ravelyn) was bugged. That is definitely not how the game turned out :S.

For some reason, when starting the replay, half the time it bugs out and the other half it doesn't. It was a super epic game though.

At 15:00, the storm drop that occurs in the bottom left should be killed off by 2 scourge. If only 1 scourge actually hits, the replay is messed up, and you'll have to restart it >_<

Another way to tell is at 16:34. The storm on the two lurkers at the top of the nat should kill both lurkers, not leave one in the red.
My Intent Dota 2 2012, MikeChanDota 2013, Roshpit 2014
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 15:56:35
March 26 2012 15:56 GMT
#1079
Go Courage! o/
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 16:26:29
March 26 2012 16:26 GMT
#1080
Final results TAKK vs SKT T3
+ Show Spoiler [TAKKvsT3] +

Team All Kill Kings 4-3 SK Telecom T3
L3gendary <Ground Zero> sGs.Newburg
Artanis[xp] <Neo Aztec> razryv
Arya[wOk] <Jade> PsyonicReaver
BaD]Seed <Circuit Breaker> Skeggaba
sGs.TheAntZ <Match Point> essbee
Dewski <Fighting Spirit> panix
Artanis[xp] <Ground Zero> PsyonicReaver
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
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