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On January 28 2010 02:15 lyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 11:53 Holgerius wrote:On January 27 2010 11:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:On January 27 2010 10:31 lyhb wrote:On January 27 2010 03:04 11cc wrote:On January 27 2010 02:52 SuperArc wrote:On January 27 2010 02:42 11cc wrote:On January 27 2010 02:40 SuperArc wrote:On January 27 2010 02:03 Lebesgue wrote:Fuck yeah. That's all I wanted today, Flash > Jaedong  Need to watch this game. Apparently there was a major fuck-up by Jaedong but still need to see that. As a Flash fan you'll be disappointed by his play. He played better than JD. Enough for me even though it wasn't as solid as usual. Have you seen the game? If you did there's no way you can say that. Assuming there is no luck involved the player who plays better, wins. JD played well for the whole game except that he forgot consume, but that mistake was too huge so he lost. Even if it's just one click if it's that important and game deciding, you should make sure you don't screw that up. A game can be decided by a one-click mismicro as well, like not stimming when flank comes. That said, I think JD and Flash are of equal skill level normally. equal? jaedong is clearly the superior player of the two again he was winning the game but for get to research consume... and they were playing at a heavy terran favored map at that Neither player is clearly superior and you're clearly wrong to say so. Lyhb is a troll, I remember him from some other thread a while ago. Do not feed him. if i were a troll i would have been banned a long time ago the thing is i only get those comments from flash/stork fan 'girls' or people who are rocking the kt/khan symbols
ohhh the irony...
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On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran.
lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games.
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On January 28 2010 07:05 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran. lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games.
And Jaedong hasn't really been dominating Flash (4-3 in games in favour of Flash).
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The last 7 games don't prove much about anything, except that Flash/JD are pretty damn equal.
OSL
(1) All Flash - decisive victory
(2) Great thought-out cheese works - can't say much beyond this
MSL
(1) Flash gets greedy as he often does, skimps on turrets in main - results in JD muta beatdown
(2) JD great preparation with 3 hatch-before-pool build, gets early BO advantage. Guardians and Flash's sick drop micro turn game around for Flash
(3) Epic back-and-forth game. Again JD with 3 hatch-before-pool gets early advantage, Flash turns it around by taking out the 1-o'clock, JD turns it back around with good surround at 3-o'clock and excellent swarms at 7-o'clock.
(4) All JD - Flash a emotional mess as admitted through his post-MSL interview
WL
(1) JD again with early advantage with mutas, but possibly overexpands leaving Flash with timing opportunity. Consume misclick confuses what would have happened
The above is as unbiased as I can put it. I can't see anyone really arguing that X is dominating Y over the span of these games. JD has had the early BO advantage in many and seems to have been better at the mindgames, Flash has shown great resiliency.
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just saw the Flash jaedong game but imo jaedong over expanded.
The expansion at the 5 was a little unnecessary when he could've just expanded to the 6
Flash's MnM ball was just waaaay to big , and his irradates were very good. (got about 4-5 lurkers iirc)
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On January 28 2010 07:09 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
The last 7 games don't prove much about anything, except that Flash/JD are pretty damn equal.
OSL
(1) All Flash - decisive victory
(2) Great thought-out cheese works - can't say much beyond this
MSL
(1) Flash gets greedy as he often does, skimps on turrets in main - results in JD muta beatdown
(2) JD great preparation with 3 hatch-before-pool build, gets early BO advantage. Guardians and Flash's sick drop micro turn game around for Flash
(3) Epic back-and-forth game. Again JD with 3 hatch-before-pool gets early advantage, Flash turns it around by taking out the 1-o'clock, JD turns it back around with good surround at 3-o'clock and excellent swarms at 7-o'clock.
(4) All JD - Flash a emotional mess as admitted through his post-MSL interview
WL
(1) JD again with early advantage with mutas, but possibly overexpands leaving Flash with timing opportunity. Consume misclick confuses what would have happened
The above is as unbiased as I can put it. I can't see anyone really arguing that X is dominating Y over the span of these games. JD has had the early BO advantage in many and seems to have been better at the mindgames, Flash has shown great resiliency.
Ya, Flash raped Jaedong twice in the OSL. Jaedong raped Flash twice in MSL (Game 1 and 4). 2 games were awesome and very even (2 and 3) and they won 1 of those each. The WL game was mostly Jaedong's, but Flash capitalized perfectly on JD's mistake. I definitely agree that all these games have told us is that they're both fantastic and pretty much evenly skilled players. What swings the scale in Flash's favor is not their H2H games but 1 Gold and 1 Silver vs 1 Gold, ELO record and simply better overall seasonal stats.
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On January 28 2010 06:46 Hinanawi wrote:
Isn't lyhb the genius who tried to make 'Flashtard' catch on as a term? Nobody over the age of 14 could make up something that stupid.
Yeah, it was that genius.
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On January 28 2010 07:07 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 07:05 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran. lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games. And Jaedong hasn't really been dominating Flash (4-3 in games in favour of Flash).
I never said Jaedong was dominating flash I was just responding with Flash is not dominating Jaedong which is true although a fanboy won't see it like that (not saying you are just saying in general!  ).
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On January 28 2010 10:58 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 07:07 Holgerius wrote:On January 28 2010 07:05 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran. lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games. And Jaedong hasn't really been dominating Flash (4-3 in games in favour of Flash). I never said Jaedong was dominating flash I was just responding with Flash is not dominating Jaedong which is true although a fanboy won't see it like that (not saying you are just saying in general! ).
Oh, I'm a Flash fanboy all right. :D I am however generally quite good at stepping out of my fanboyism and look at things objectively, and I have absolutely no problem admitting that Jaedong (based on all 7 games) has definitely played on Flash's level. They have both dominated each other if we look at the games individually, but altogether I would say they're even in their H2H.
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On January 28 2010 08:13 Lebesgue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 06:46 Hinanawi wrote:
Isn't lyhb the genius who tried to make 'Flashtard' catch on as a term? Nobody over the age of 14 could make up something that stupid. Yeah, it was that genius.
lyhb and FireGuyX would probably become good friend.
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On January 28 2010 06:46 Hinanawi wrote:
Isn't lyhb the genius who tried to make 'Flashtard' catch on as a term? Nobody over the age of 14 could make up something that stupid.
guess it catch on the fact that you remember it...
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On January 28 2010 07:05 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran. lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games.
'flashtards' fail to see the bigger picture
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On January 28 2010 11:16 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 10:58 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 07:07 Holgerius wrote:On January 28 2010 07:05 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran. lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games. And Jaedong hasn't really been dominating Flash (4-3 in games in favour of Flash). I never said Jaedong was dominating flash I was just responding with Flash is not dominating Jaedong which is true although a fanboy won't see it like that (not saying you are just saying in general! ). Oh, I'm a Flash fanboy all right. :D I am however generally quite good at stepping out of my fanboyism and look at things objectively, and I have absolutely no problem admitting that Jaedong (based on all 7 games) has definitely played on Flash's level. They have both dominated each other if we look at the games individually, but altogether I would say they're even in their H2H.
you gotta remember that all the maps were heavily slanting towards terran...
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Brunei Darussalam10 Posts
On January 28 2010 13:24 lyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 11:16 Holgerius wrote:On January 28 2010 10:58 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 07:07 Holgerius wrote:On January 28 2010 07:05 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran. lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games. And Jaedong hasn't really been dominating Flash (4-3 in games in favour of Flash). I never said Jaedong was dominating flash I was just responding with Flash is not dominating Jaedong which is true although a fanboy won't see it like that (not saying you are just saying in general! ). Oh, I'm a Flash fanboy all right. :D I am however generally quite good at stepping out of my fanboyism and look at things objectively, and I have absolutely no problem admitting that Jaedong (based on all 7 games) has definitely played on Flash's level. They have both dominated each other if we look at the games individually, but altogether I would say they're even in their H2H. you gotta remember that all the maps were heavily slanting towards terran...
What? No, only Ultimatum and Odd Eye could ever be considered slanting towards terran. Fighting Spirit and Match Point are both favouring zerg, especially the harassment component of it. No don't bring statistics into it because short term stats don't mean anything - Arcadia 2 is just proof of that.
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I don't agree with lyhb, but Arcadia 2 wasn't the random variance of a small sample size that skewed the true picture. Terrans just found a better way to play the map. MP isn't zerg favored, one concept of the map does not imbalance make.
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United States11393 Posts
On January 28 2010 13:30 TI-Nspire CAS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2010 13:24 lyhb wrote:On January 28 2010 11:16 Holgerius wrote:On January 28 2010 10:58 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 07:07 Holgerius wrote:On January 28 2010 07:05 blade55555 wrote:On January 28 2010 03:17 randombum wrote:On January 28 2010 03:03 On_Slaught wrote:On January 28 2010 02:39 koreasilver wrote:
Yeah, lets just conveniently omit those two games from the OSL where Flash raped the shit out of Jaedong.
Jaedong is clearly the more superior player if you look at the last five games disregarding the two where Jaedong got the shit raped out of him.
Oh wait. Jaedong had a significant lead in the last 5 games these two have played through smart builds and aggressive and/or greedy play. He happens to be 3-2 in those games because of a cute elevator trick and forgetting to research consume. Anyone who thinks that Flash is playing at a higher level, or that he overall "outplayed" Flash in any of those games is simply wrong or didn't watch the games. You are blowing Jaedong's advantage out of proportion. It simply depends on the spin you put on it. The situation can also be seen as: Flash has been dominating Jaedong over the last 7 games they have played, going 4:3 over jaedong. Jaedong's wins only came as the result of a lucky 2 hatch muta getting behind the imbalanced mineral's of match point, a black out where he was giving a win for a game that was not over, and the game immediately after that where flash's was defeated mentally by kespa because of the mentioned black out. The other 4 games however, have been complete rapes. The 2 osl games where flash just toyed with jaedong speak for themselves. The game on ultimatum was not due to "cute elevator trick", but the proper response when your opponent has built over 10 sunkens guarding his natural. Only a noob would except him to charge mnm against that many defensive structures. Flash's most recent victory is the result of a great timing push while consume wasn't ready. Even if he had consume, his defilers were only out in time to swarm 5 lurkers and a handful of zerglings vs flash's incredibly large mnm force with 5 tanks and vessals. Flash still would have taken out top left and bottom right even if jaedong managed to save his mineral only, and then it would have been 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg which is largely in favor of terran. lol if you have been watching the same games I have been watching flash has not been dominating over jaedong the last 7 games. And Jaedong hasn't really been dominating Flash (4-3 in games in favour of Flash). I never said Jaedong was dominating flash I was just responding with Flash is not dominating Jaedong which is true although a fanboy won't see it like that (not saying you are just saying in general! ). Oh, I'm a Flash fanboy all right. :D I am however generally quite good at stepping out of my fanboyism and look at things objectively, and I have absolutely no problem admitting that Jaedong (based on all 7 games) has definitely played on Flash's level. They have both dominated each other if we look at the games individually, but altogether I would say they're even in their H2H. you gotta remember that all the maps were heavily slanting towards terran... What? No, only Ultimatum and Odd Eye could ever be considered slanting towards terran. Fighting Spirit and Match Point are both favouring zerg, especially the harassment component of it. No don't bring statistics into it because short term stats don't mean anything - Arcadia 2 is just proof of that.
Err. without the muta harassable naturals, ZvT on FS would just be dumb.
Lategame favors a camping terran (much like MP too) and the short distances between bases make the 3 tank push so strong especially against 3hat muta.
And Idra already covered why MP favors T in this thread.
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cant believe some people are even trying to argue that the maps are not flash/terran favored...
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Just because the map is imbalanced one way or another does not mean that that imbalance contributes into every win a certain race has over another race. I don't know why map balance is even a topic of discussion about this game as Flash wasn't even close to trying to split the map in half, and the tank push Flash did was so off the normal timing because of the harassment Jaedong did beforehand, basically makes it so you can't really even consider the map when it came to that push.
Anyway, Jaedong is amazing, and Flash is amazing. I'm loving these games that they've played recently
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i have no idea what killer and jaedong's build was trying to accomplish. Fast ups, fast min only late lurker late hive late 3rd gas? Wtf explain plz.
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On January 28 2010 13:59 lyhb wrote:
cant believe some people are even trying to argue that the maps are not flash/terran favored...
Yeah, that totally won the game for Flash. Never mind Jaedong's mistake with consume, or Flash's immaculate push, or his insane macro, or Jaedong's insane harassment and timing until that push. IT'S DEFINITELY THE MAP.
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