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mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
January 27 2010 01:09 GMT
#1201
Can someone please tell me if Jaedong forgot to research consume of it's just that his build order means a late consume?
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 27 2010 01:13 GMT
#1202
On January 27 2010 10:07 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
So how come this series isn't up on youtube yet? I really wanna watch Flash rape JD and show him what should have happened in the MSL.
check out nevake, his already uploaded the games
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 27 2010 01:19 GMT
#1203
On January 27 2010 10:09 mmdmmd wrote:
Can someone please tell me if Jaedong forgot to research consume of it's just that his build order means a late consume?


He forgot it... what the hell kind of build order aims for a late consume? Consume is what keeps Zerg alive.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 27 2010 01:23 GMT
#1204
On January 27 2010 10:19 QuakerOats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 10:09 mmdmmd wrote:
Can someone please tell me if Jaedong forgot to research consume of it's just that his build order means a late consume?


He forgot it... what the hell kind of build order aims for a late consume? Consume is what keeps Zerg alive.
just watched it, he started it when flash killed all his lings on the highground and was about to enter his min only.

and wth was with hoejja vs hiya rofl
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 01:31:04
January 27 2010 01:30 GMT
#1205
On January 27 2010 10:13 We Are Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 10:07 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
So how come this series isn't up on youtube yet? I really wanna watch Flash rape JD and show him what should have happened in the MSL.
check out nevake, his already uploaded the games


Thanks... Can you give me a direct link by chance? All his recently uploaded video's are in korean with no english description either.

Edit: Nvm found it.
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
January 27 2010 01:31 GMT
#1206
On January 27 2010 03:04 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 02:52 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:42 11cc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:40 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:03 Lebesgue wrote:
Fuck yeah. That's all I wanted today, Flash > Jaedong

Need to watch this game. Apparently there was a major fuck-up by Jaedong but still need to see that.


As a Flash fan you'll be disappointed by his play.


He played better than JD. Enough for me even though it wasn't as solid as usual.


Have you seen the game? If you did there's no way you can say that.


Assuming there is no luck involved the player who plays better, wins. JD played well for the whole game except that he forgot consume, but that mistake was too huge so he lost. Even if it's just one click if it's that important and game deciding, you should make sure you don't screw that up. A game can be decided by a one-click mismicro as well, like not stimming when flank comes.

That said, I think JD and Flash are of equal skill level normally.



equal? jaedong is clearly the superior player of the two


again he was winning the game but for get to research consume... and they were playing at a heavy terran favored map at that
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 27 2010 01:44 GMT
#1207
On January 27 2010 00:30 vaMpYr wrote:
many people love bisu , little hate him

ROFLMAO. no one hates Bisu? get out from under your rock or stop posting blind fanboy nonsense. typical from random 64 noobs.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 27 2010 01:54 GMT
#1208
On January 27 2010 10:31 lyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 03:04 11cc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:52 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:42 11cc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:40 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:03 Lebesgue wrote:
Fuck yeah. That's all I wanted today, Flash > Jaedong

Need to watch this game. Apparently there was a major fuck-up by Jaedong but still need to see that.


As a Flash fan you'll be disappointed by his play.


He played better than JD. Enough for me even though it wasn't as solid as usual.


Have you seen the game? If you did there's no way you can say that.


Assuming there is no luck involved the player who plays better, wins. JD played well for the whole game except that he forgot consume, but that mistake was too huge so he lost. Even if it's just one click if it's that important and game deciding, you should make sure you don't screw that up. A game can be decided by a one-click mismicro as well, like not stimming when flank comes.

That said, I think JD and Flash are of equal skill level normally.



equal? jaedong is clearly the superior player of the two


again he was winning the game but for get to research consume... and they were playing at a heavy terran favored map at that


here we go again
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 27 2010 02:18 GMT
#1209
On January 27 2010 08:13 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 08:06 blade55555 wrote:
On January 27 2010 06:06 n.DieJokes wrote:
well that game was dumb; Jaedong throughly outplays FlaSh in every facet of game for ten minutes then forgets consume and loses >.<


Ah damn so thats why he lost haven't seen the game but nice to know its just because jaedong forgot consume not because flash outplayed him

well he got absolutely creamed those last 30 seconds or so
Edit- As I recall your a JD fan and thus were not being sarcastic; in that case yeah watch this game. First ten minutes are classic Jaedong, unbelievably good and entertaining. Last bit was a wtf moment but didn't leave a bitter taste in my mouth


Ah yeah definitely going to watch it now ^^
When I think of something else, something will go here
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 27 2010 02:29 GMT
#1210
On January 27 2010 10:31 lyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 03:04 11cc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:52 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:42 11cc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:40 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:03 Lebesgue wrote:
Fuck yeah. That's all I wanted today, Flash > Jaedong

Need to watch this game. Apparently there was a major fuck-up by Jaedong but still need to see that.


As a Flash fan you'll be disappointed by his play.


He played better than JD. Enough for me even though it wasn't as solid as usual.


Have you seen the game? If you did there's no way you can say that.


Assuming there is no luck involved the player who plays better, wins. JD played well for the whole game except that he forgot consume, but that mistake was too huge so he lost. Even if it's just one click if it's that important and game deciding, you should make sure you don't screw that up. A game can be decided by a one-click mismicro as well, like not stimming when flank comes.

That said, I think JD and Flash are of equal skill level normally.



equal? jaedong is clearly the superior player of the two


again he was winning the game but for get to research consume... and they were playing at a heavy terran favored map at that


Neither player is clearly superior and you're clearly wrong to say so.
Remember Violet.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 27 2010 02:40 GMT
#1211
Ouch, the scars. =[ Oh well, move on to the next match.
Jaedong
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 27 2010 02:53 GMT
#1212
On January 27 2010 11:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 10:31 lyhb wrote:
On January 27 2010 03:04 11cc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:52 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:42 11cc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:40 SuperArc wrote:
On January 27 2010 02:03 Lebesgue wrote:
Fuck yeah. That's all I wanted today, Flash > Jaedong

Need to watch this game. Apparently there was a major fuck-up by Jaedong but still need to see that.


As a Flash fan you'll be disappointed by his play.


He played better than JD. Enough for me even though it wasn't as solid as usual.


Have you seen the game? If you did there's no way you can say that.


Assuming there is no luck involved the player who plays better, wins. JD played well for the whole game except that he forgot consume, but that mistake was too huge so he lost. Even if it's just one click if it's that important and game deciding, you should make sure you don't screw that up. A game can be decided by a one-click mismicro as well, like not stimming when flank comes.

That said, I think JD and Flash are of equal skill level normally.



equal? jaedong is clearly the superior player of the two


again he was winning the game but for get to research consume... and they were playing at a heavy terran favored map at that


Neither player is clearly superior and you're clearly wrong to say so.

Lyhb is a troll, I remember him from some other thread a while ago. Do not feed him.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 27 2010 03:52 GMT
#1213
On January 27 2010 11:40 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Ouch, the scars. =[ Oh well, move on to the next match.


hey man it's all good, you got that MSL title and there's no shame losing a close, tough game to the #1 team (currently). Hiya seems to be back in full shape and that means good things for you guys!
Remember Violet.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 27 2010 03:57 GMT
#1214
Godamnit, we want a straight up epic JD vs Flash match that goes for 40 minutes without any stupid stuff.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 27 2010 04:24 GMT
#1215
On January 27 2010 02:40 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 02:03 Lebesgue wrote:
Fuck yeah. That's all I wanted today, Flash > Jaedong

Need to watch this game. Apparently there was a major fuck-up by Jaedong but still need to see that.


As a Flash fan you'll be disappointed by his play.


I see what you meant. It wasn't the best play ever from Flash but in the end he won. At least will serve as a boost of confidence.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 27 2010 04:38 GMT
#1216
Well it wouldn't be a stretch to say that JD held massive advantages in the last 5 games between these two, but he is only 3-2 in those games i'm afraid. Oh well. Hopefully they meet again in a bo5 (OSL finals plz).
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
January 27 2010 11:20 GMT
#1217
Just watched this on Youtube.

Hoejja vs Hiya was rofl!

How the hell did JD lose? Looked like he was on 4 base making 5th vs 2 base.

Thought he was going for the kill after the devastating muta harrass on his base.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
January 27 2010 12:18 GMT
#1218
I think Flash, going into the MSL finals, was VERY confident and considered himself to be stronger than Jaedong at that point. The games of the finals and this game have only proven that Flash is not a favourite or atleast not a clear one against Jaedong (atleast not on any map).
I
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
January 27 2010 13:27 GMT
#1219
LOL! Have just watched the game right now and damn JD was all over him. Sure seemed so but of all the games this is the moment where he forgets or more likely slips a Consume... Yes he made an enormous and crucial mistake so that counts as a loss in the books and I'm not debating that just hate it when something like that happens.

Most people agreed JD had an advantage in the MSL Finals Game 3 when Dark Swarm kept him safe. Now he didn't have Dark Swarm and couldn't hold the lines. With that in mind I consider Game 3 to be a fair decision though it was of course not how it should've been decided with a ruling instead of playing.

Overall I think JD looked stronger than Flash in the MSL Finals and with this game he cements it at least for me. Now I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that JD truly deserved that MSL win!
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 27 2010 13:43 GMT
#1220
On January 27 2010 10:07 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
So how come this series isn't up on youtube yet? I really wanna watch Flash rape JD and show him what should have happened in the MSL.


Heh, assuming you've watched the game now you must be pretty disappointed. :p
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