EPTu'd have to make 1 sunk in front of hatch, so they don't sunk your hatch from the front, and this sunk must be protected by sproes too...
just a theory what do you guys think?
Flash used for ZvZ?
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines536 Posts
u'd have to make 1 sunk in front of hatch, so they don't sunk your hatch from the front, and this sunk must be protected by sproes too... just a theory what do you guys think? | ||
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
edit: also it lets the opponent expand at will | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
ur too late :D | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
also lest not forget the fact that hydra suck at defending min lines against muta, and every time you are going to be placing up more and more spores you are going to be hurtingyour econ. If i ever see a zerg player going hydra, i just get a den myself and upgrade lurkers. GG So in short- no this is a stupid idea becase a. You will be ecnomically behind too many defensive structes, and the fact that the other zerg can simply take one more expo than you b. Muta > Hydra c. Your upgrades wont do shit becasue the other zerg player is going to have flyer upgrades as well. So all in all trying to make a TvZ build work for ZvZ is fail. | ||
LosingID8
CA10827 Posts
just ask day[9] | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
if they did yes it would be viable  | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines536 Posts
i find in tvz flash FE, then going wraiths with cloak to harass zerg ovies/mins and negate mutas is effective, with a quick transition to rine/med. your starport now stop making wraith and produce vessals. to me it helps terran expanding up to par with zergs, since the wraiths can keep track and hinder zerg expos, while you aren't contained. this strat was used by ganzi to beat jaedong in one of the games this month | ||
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Marine50
Australia1764 Posts
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Marine50
Australia1764 Posts
On May 01 2009 10:14 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: yes air superiority is a big thing now, so wouldn't it be wise for terrans to copy zergs and get air rather then m&m? i find in tvz flash FE, then going wraiths with cloak to harass zerg ovies/mins and negate mutas is effective, with a quick transition to rine/med. your starport now stop making wraith and produce vessals. to me it helps terran expanding up to par with zergs, since the wraiths can keep track and hinder zerg expos, while you aren't contained. this strat was used by ganzi to beat jaedong in one of the games this month he also got Valkyries and lots of tanks later too. Perfect unit combo to counter JD | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
I'd like to see it if Satanik or Day could comment on their experience with hydralisk play. | ||
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epicdoom
United States489 Posts
On May 01 2009 10:13 LosingID8 wrote: it works pretty well, actually. just ask day[9] ^ He mentioned it in one of his podcasts too, from the conception of the idea to executing it into a valid strategy in general terms, it's quite good | ||
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TimmyMac
Canada499 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
so no | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On May 01 2009 10:13 LosingID8 wrote: it works pretty well, actually. just ask day[9] I want replays. | ||
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
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sMi.SyMPhOnY
United States226 Posts
Statisically muta ling works better, but if you want to use it once in a bo3 or bo5 it doesn't hurt to change it up a bit. Just don't assume this is an insta win vs muta ling, this strategy plays rather on your opponents ability to adapt or some sort of advantage gained through early game. | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
It works. BUT It's pretty luck based though. You need to scout him constantly. If you see that he's going den aswell get speed ovi asap. It works best when you can defend the 2 bases properly. The thing is you really need to scout in order to not whoring drones / spores against mass glings. Works wonderfull against 90% of koreans zerg as they mostly go 1 hatch mutas style. I remember when i played it in the previous season, it took many korean z off guard with hydras 1/1 and eventually 2/2 with ovi speed. Guards ? scout it, then scourge. It's not as weak as many ppl think. Also works better on narrow paths (not to narrow though as mutas would pretty much rape them) | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
 It can definitely work, although against a very good opponent in a Bo5 you probably won't fare very well if that's the only style you're good at. | ||
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Strayline
United States330 Posts
The guy got 3 bases and walled in with den/evo/sunken at his natural choke. Then got spores up and I'm honestly not sure if he ever went lair. I think he did but he could have won without it. His econ was great even vs my 12 hatch because he droned almost like it was ZvP or T and the spores at the mineral only behind his main helped a lot to defend both lines and hydras at his choke helped cover the nat. I'm pretty sure I could have overrun him at one point with mass ling if I'd known from the start what he was doing but I scouted the wrong direction and he did get enough lings himself that I went for mutas instead. I'm a noob but I usually know what I could have done to win a game when it's over but I'm honestly not sure what I could have done differently that time except going for what would normally be a risky all in given the info I had at the time. | ||
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