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Oystein FPVods [04-04 Update] - Page 4
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
thanks Oystein!! keep up with the Good Job this will help me and others... | ||
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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
China685 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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Sonu
Canada577 Posts
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TaP.Nuada
United States428 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On March 18 2009 10:31 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote: Is the 1 gate expand only viable on Andromeda? I saw you do this build a lot in your rep pack. Seems to me like this would be instantly overrun by fast hydra or ling or really anything on another map. Also, how do you stop it if they start massing lings and drone drill your ramp? Delay Nexus? Get forge? Pump zealots? Its viable on maps like Colosseum and Katrina also, but you have to play it slightly different there and usually you wanna open up with gate\forge first and be aggressive with your first zealots. Well you should be able to scout if they do mass lings, then I delay the gas\core and put up a forge while maintaining a non stop zeal production and use probes to drill if they try to break the ramp while you just buy time to get a cannon in place on your ramp. You should pretty much never die vs mass lings on ramped maps if you have good reaction on pulling your probes, even if you 1gate expo or 1gate tech. Your FPVOD's are sick. If you were ever so inclined to do the PvZ 1-gate expo build from the Zerg point of view...(wink wink). :D Could do it if I am recording and if I happen to play vs it. Not that many people use it and Andromeda is really the only map in the current iccup maps that it can be used on. Also I have not quite gotten it down how to defeat the build when I play Z myself. I been losing a lot vs it when training with Shauni. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
VOD : http://files.filefront.com/ZvPvsProxygates12hatchwmv/;13487398;/fileinfo.html Replay : http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=9061 BO : Will add later | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On March 18 2009 23:48 justiceknight wrote: can u post them in youtube? A few of them are on the Nevake account. I don`t have a account I can upload more than 10mins on youtube myself, and I think the videos at filefront will be streamed, usually they get streamed immediately, but for some reason the last few uploads have taken some time before they are stream able  | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
I am a big fan of overpool into macro play esp on medusa. I usually use overpool to transition which can force protoss (if I dog there probe well enough) to overproduce cannons in their mineral line or there front door. I would like you to explain how I can read the difference between a sair/+1 attack opening versus a sair/+1 3-4chon attack. I find that versus +1 legs I can add my den at 50% lair (gas on 15 after third hat) and go carpace/spire, then continual drone pump while adding both additional hatches and be fine, esp with a dozen speedlings to control early protoss zealot/probe aggression but versus chon attacks I often find myself stretched and still sometimes losing crucial builds. How can I differentiate from games where 5 hat hydraspeed is needed to maintain mapcontrol/solid defence and games where I must open lurker first to defend. Also what is a good ratio of lurkers to safely repel both standard attacks. Another question on that midgame situation is that when I open 3 hat lair/lurker I find myself at 3 gas/4 base (read:medusa) yet unable to do anything but defend. What grades should I get first in a lurker variation and what is a good second evo timing. Another question in the same midgame is what is a good building trigger for hive timing. Should I time it off of my +2carpace so that I can immediately get +3 or should it be anytime after I establish 2-3 evo's with speed already done. Thanks a ton in advance for your advice, I have replays if you need them. <3 oystein (Team Get. Hwaiting~!!) | ||
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Mr.E
United States434 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On March 21 2009 04:11 HeavOnEarth wrote: more zvx reps I just made a VOD tonight of the 3hatch spire->5hatch hydra build that I am uploading at the moment that hopefully will be good since I think I cover a lot of the basic concepts of the build. Any chance you could make a PvZ FPVOD of the 4 gate 2 archon PvZ bible? I know theres a comprehensive guide in the recommended threads, but PvZ still frightens and confuses me @_@ Its on my to do list, but I have not recorded any good VODs while doing this yet. Hopefully I can get around to making one soon.@attackzerg Lots of good questions there m8. Not sure if you are talking about a overpool without gas, but I assume it since you talk about being good at killing scouts (with speed that should not be any problems) To be honest I very rarely use an overpool without gas build, most of the times I do overpool its with gas. So a lot of the timings etc I am not to familiar with, but I will try to answer some of the other questions. On the difference between the 2 builds, I think its usually given away by the P having more gateways (and usually faster) and no Templar archives. Also when they take the second gas is a good indicator, if they don`t take it before they start the stargate\citadel you can assume its a sair\zeal build. Beside this the only good answer is really just to scout with ling\scourge to check what the P have. When opening lurkers you are suppose to play defensively, as for upgrades I usually get the armor upgrade first, then add a second evo so I start both +1 melee and +2 armor at the same time with the hive up before the +2 armor is finished. I don`t really use any triggers, but I often get hive right after speed finishes when opening lurkers, since I usually rush for cracklings\lurker when I open lurker, often from 3bases and 5hatches. I also often delay oviespeed when opening lurks to sink all my gas into upgrades and lurkers. I gotta think a bit on the 3rd question, but generally I opt for the lurker way if I have taken damage early or if hes opening up with a heavy zeal rush. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
3hatch spire->5hatch hydra with BO and basic concepts VOD : http://files.filefront.com/ZvP5hatchhydrawmv/;13501124;/fileinfo.html Rep : http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=9188 BO : + Show Spoiler + BO 12 hatch (dronescout center) 11 pool 13 hatch @ 3rd 12 gas 11 2lings 16 overlord 18 lair 22 lingspeed 22 overlord 30 2lings 30 overlord 32 spire 38 hatch 37 Overlord 37 hatch 36 Overlord 36 Overlord 36 Evo chamber 35 Overlord 40 second gas 39 Hydra den (might have missed a few lings in the high 30s and some scourge but it gets hard to hold perfect track of what you build) Also remember non stop drone production in between the rest of the BO. The goal of this build is to make as many drones possible with the least amount of defense needed. The game itself is bad, but I don`t really talk about it and try to stick to the build order and general basic concepts of the build. Will try to make a new VOD soon to bring up topics like how to adept your initial build to what the P is doing, hive timing, followups after the opening battle. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22206 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
I think starting +1melee/2+carpace at the same time is exactly what I need to do. Also I think speed -> hive directly is also what I was looking for. Last night luxury vs jangbi showed me some of the exact things your telling me. I open overpool to force cannons, but I avoid gas until 15 (after third hat) so that I can achieve 3 base-5 hat economy as quickly as possible incase of very zealot heavy terran early-midgame | ||
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Jawa~
United States291 Posts
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