EPTOystein FPVods [04-04 Update] - Page 6
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ZeKk
Sweden320 Posts
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BunkerPush
United States107 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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logicgosu
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
 Nice stuff though^^ | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Usually it takes some tries recording because you want a representable VOD for your build or whatever you're going to show unless you just want to show skills. And many times the opponent does something utterly stupid^^ Anyway what I'm trying to say, once you've recorded a VOD that fall into representation of your purpose then you have to go with it. Hopefully you faced a good opponent, but not always. Since most games played are vs random opponents on ICCup you can never be certain of his skill. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On March 27 2009 00:10 ZeKk wrote: Hey Oystien. What would you say be a good counter against 10/15 gate as terran. Would the strong fd push be able to stop that? The strong FD push is the opening that have been giving me the most troubles when doing the 10\15 when microed well it even pushes the 10\15 back. Have not played much vs dropship play but I think it can give some troubles especially on a map like Medusa with cliff behind your main. @ CharlieMurphy Not sure what his rank was, but I think most of my games are recorded vs B- or higher opponents. Don`t I mention the rank in the beginning of the VOD for the game? @ Logicgosu On my to do list, its coming. I am away now, but hopefully I will get around doing it next week. @ Louder What PvT VOD? I assume its the Destination game, yeah the game wasnt the best but it was one of the first one I recorded. And like Stylish says finding good games to make commentaries for can be pretty hard. Its always a decision what kind of VOD you want to use also. Do you want a close entertaining game? Do you want a build showing how the build works when performed perfectly? Do you want a game just vs strong opposition? As for the level of my opponents I usually stick to making the VODs at B- and higher to get respectable opponents, but that don`t guarantee the quality of the play from my opponents in any given game. | ||
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
What should I scout for with my initial Probe? what do you see to know if a terran will do 2 Fact rush or 4 marine+Vult+tank Rush? i have troubles guessing the opening of a terran i know if they put SVC back to mineral means they will do CC but if your probe dies how do you know what he will do?? thnx for your time | ||
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
You often have to make guesses from limited info if you can`t scout them early properly. If the map is flat like longinus and Medusa you can usually expect FD or 2fact if he don`t wall off. If he walls of you can usually get info by attacking his wall with your goons, if he gets Siege quickly you can safely assume he is either doing Siege\expand or 1fact\dropship. If he gets up to 2 tanks without Siege there is a good chance hes going 2fact. Like you said yourself, looking for how many SCVs he pulls of gas gives you an indication. But often on ramped maps you end up not scouting what the T is doing at all. When this happens I leave a probe at their natural and see what they move out with or if they float out a cc. If I see them moving out with a typical 2fact army, I usually cancel my expo if I have started it and just defend my ramp with whatever I have. At the end you often gonna end up having to make educated guesses on what the Terran is doing. Also you can do builds that gives you the initiative if you can`t scout the T like going 1base reaver or just play it safe and do 2gate or an obs build or simply work more on your early game micro to be able to do 1gate expo builds vs FD and sometimes even hold vs 2fact builds. | ||
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
~~If I see them moving out with a typical 2fact army, I usually cancel my expo if I have started it and just defend my ramp with whatever I have. ~~ but when you cancel that nexus do you put Gates or add Robo? or just wait to brake the push and then expand? | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On April 01 2009 13:27 LuisMl8 wrote: ok you told ~~If I see them moving out with a typical 2fact army, I usually cancel my expo if I have started it and just defend my ramp with whatever I have. ~~ but when you cancel that nexus do you put Gates or add Robo? or just wait to brake the push and then expand? Yeah if I cancel I add Robo and 2 gates. Your not breaking a 2fact push from 1gate, its a fair chance you will outright die from it also, but with some good goonmicro on your ramp and probes if needed its possible to defend. If its on a flat map I don`t cancel and just try to survive somehow. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On April 01 2009 23:19 Geo.Rion wrote: Oystein i would have a quiestion to you. I'm a zerg payer and i often do double hatch befor pool if i see my opponent going forge-fast expand, i know it's not too common, so i dont know if you can give me and advise regarding this. I go 4 hatch hydra bust or 3 hatch lair standard play from there. I dont really know when to get my first gas. I guess for the 3 hatch lair apllies the 12 extarctro rule of the 3hatchspire5hatch hydra build, what about the other one? Thank you I don`t really like the 3hatch before pool opening for the specific reasoning that the P can and should cannon rush you if you do it. Even if you scout it you have to pull drones to defend and that seriously messes up your timings and delays everything you are doing, or if they simply do 2 fast gates and just non stop sends zeals keeping you from massing drones like you really want to do. If I do it I usually opt for going for a 4th hatch before taking my gas and go into a hydra heavy play, but I guess it sort of depends what you scout the P doing, if hes teching fast I would try to delay the gas for as long as possible. However if hes doing more aggressive gateway builds I would get the gas sooner rather than later to get the hydra upgrades asap. But like I said I have tried experimenting with 3hatch before pool and come to the conclusion that regular play is better suited for me at least, and therefor I can`t really give a definitive answer to your questions. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
1015 Rush Follow up VOD Vod : http://files.filefront.com/1015followupwmv/;13533614;/fileinfo.html Rep : http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=9974 BO : will add later. Also been trying to record some PvZ VODs, but havent really found any games that I want to use yet, hopefully I will get one during the next week. | ||
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
keep the good work up!! | ||
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
what do you normally tech up after you see the Z base? do you put Gateways Down after you see it or before? can you give us some General tips in PvZ thx | ||
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TaP.Nuada
United States428 Posts
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zeox
Norway314 Posts
I hope you'll continue what you're doing | ||
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