EPTOn October 04 2008 19:26 Delirium wrote:
nintu, you cheeky bastard <3
nintu, you cheeky bastard <3
<3 =)
[I] Valkyrie Use, TvZ. - Page 2
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404.Nintu
Canada1723 Posts
<3 =) | ||
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stenole
Norway869 Posts
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404.Nintu
Canada1723 Posts
On October 04 2008 19:40 stenole wrote: Doesn't the zerg expo all over the map if they see you opening this way? That's what happened in the second game of that video. If they do vs my first game build, I just roll over with tanks and bio. | ||
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Makhno
Sweden585 Posts
I really liked the Sair/reaver style in game 2, it was hilarious when he rofl'd at scourge getting owned, haha. | ||
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Piste
6180 Posts
I was playing PvZ and I had like 6 reavers and none of them shot any carapace even they tho they were full! I lost becouse of that, ultras raped them for free. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17731 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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hiroxx
Ireland115 Posts
i was wondering though, why not go for heavy MnM use instead of focusing on tanks? i always thought mnm ripped hydra to shreds and you'll severely outnumber him since he'll be having to share his larvae between producing hydras and overlords, and mnm are very quick to mass wondering what your thoughts are on this | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
 MASS TANKS A LA ILOVEOOV!!! | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On October 04 2008 21:32 GrandInquisitor wrote: The problem with comparing this to PvZ corsair is that Zergs don't have to fear cloaked DT's running around in ZvT. What about ghosts + nukes ? ;D | ||
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404.Delirium
United States1190 Posts
My thoughts exactly. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
Defiler plague? Queens (if Zerg actually made them) ensnare? Besides ghosts are pretty easy to kill and i think even one ovie can survive long enough to let a small group of hydras or lings to kill one  | ||
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JMave
Singapore1806 Posts
If we apply theorycraft mechanics, I'd say that terran is really at a disadvantage early on due to the massive amount of resources that this build demands so bunker placement is really, really key. I'd say this build requires around 3 gas bases for it to be sustained if you're going to go tanks and valks with upgrades(yikes). So a possible counter would be to stop a third gas. But in your video I noticed you pulled off quite alot of damage with just 2 gas. I think scouting on zerg's part is key and if he scouts for valks, all mutas and scourges would pose almost no threat if valks number builds up. Maybe a fast lurkers would be viable due to a later academy hence later scans and detection. In terms of macro however, I think terran would be at a massive advantage when valks number builds. Hydras with speed may prove worthy though. I think queens, as writer had pointed out, with ensnare may prove to be useful as well considering the mix with speed hydras to counter. Plague can also be a really good effective counter provided the amount of zerglings required can be produced since ovies are popping like balloons. These are just my thoughts and I'd say it can actually prove to be a very effective build to add on with marines and medics since there's a surplus of minerals. EDIT: Its also a real nice surprise and a refreshing experience to see BoxeR back in the scene and even revolutionising SC yet again with just a one-day appearance. | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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heyitsme
153 Posts
I would agree with JMave though, how well would this do against 2 hatch lurks? | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
someone please please do this It would make my day | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
On October 05 2008 00:37 damenmofa wrote: sorry but no, this is crap against a zerg who knows what hes doing. Like others said, hyd/lurk rape the shit out of you, especially when coupled with drops. U say siege tanks rape hyd/lurk, but I say u can NOT have more than 4-5 Siege Tanks and a group of m&m when u go 2 port valks at the time the zerg hits you with like 2 grps of hydras and 5-10 lurks. If he uses drop, things even get more messy for u as u have to turtle like shit while the zerg can keep the pressure up and expo like hell. Damn, even humiliation tactics like throwing in queens with broodling for the tanks work against someone investing that much eco in valks so early on. Just out of curiosity, wouldn't loading up big portions of your army into overlords be a bad idea if he's killing most of your overlords? | ||
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village_idiot
2436 Posts
On October 05 2008 00:49 fusionsdf wrote: someone please please do this It would make my day Oh my god! Slayers Boxer the Emperor and the Revolutionist. This has to become mainstream, lololo. | ||
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