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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-18 18:53:25
September 19 2005 05:22 GMT
#1
Ive 9pooled into 3 hatch (2nd at choke) ive 2 hatch lurker to expand, ive 1 hatch lurker (gay rush) and ive straight 12 hatch to pool than expand.

T's seem to love to do the 1 rax fast bunk rush to depot / rax block than expand or fast tank.

It just seems T's are really powerful in tvz on neo forte, anyone have % from pro leagues or replays or advice? Im nearly going insane trying to figure something out >_<
starofNC
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1340 Posts
September 19 2005 06:01 GMT
#2
here control ill post some for you, cant guarantee if you'll find them worthwhile or not but check them out anyway
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
September 19 2005 06:10 GMT
#3
3 hatch and lern to defend with mutas like july 8[
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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
September 19 2005 06:13 GMT
#4
On September 19 2005 15:10 Carnac wrote:
3 hatch and lern to defend with mutas like july 8[

It's probably easier to learn how to push like goodfriend, and he really should have won that final game. His strategy was a killer against that build.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
starofNC
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1340 Posts
September 19 2005 06:14 GMT
#5
check your pm control
MhX
Profile Joined October 2004
United States317 Posts
September 19 2005 06:43 GMT
#6
have you tried 12 pooling then hatching in choke?

or 12pool 11 gas, mine 100 and get speedlings and expand in your minerals, then third hatch in choke?

or maybe 9 hatch, 9 pool in choke ? :O?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 19 2005 06:48 GMT
#7
those builds would lose easily to the fast tank rush or fast medic both of which seems to be favorites on this map o_O
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 19 2005 06:48 GMT
#8
starofnc i replied to ur PM


thanks alot btw <3
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
September 19 2005 06:54 GMT
#9
If you sent him any good reps on it mind sharing them with all of us? Forte seems a bit awkward for me as well.
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Echo
Profile Joined July 2005
United States435 Posts
September 19 2005 06:59 GMT
#10
Seems to me like you simply need to make a very large amount of speedlings and flank vs a fast tank build. Its also good vs fast expand. I agree though its pretty hard zvt on this map.
aka EchoOfRain/T.Sqd)RaiN on uswest
starofNC
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1340 Posts
September 19 2005 07:20 GMT
#11
littlechava just keep posting on what you'd like to see, and i will make sure to get some up at playsc.com/replays so yeah, ask and you shall receive

I've just uploaded a game there right now, go check it out!

MhX
Profile Joined October 2004
United States317 Posts
September 19 2005 07:30 GMT
#12
holy shit you're right this map is crazy hard zvt
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 19 2005 09:40 GMT
#13
ya u need july micro and gf fuck up to win it.im guessing 3 hat with alot of lings to stop that early force moving and pray u get cross positions
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Suicide
Profile Joined December 2002
United States475 Posts
September 19 2005 10:13 GMT
#14
I remember Yell0w used to do either a 2 or 3 ( i believe 3 ) hatch hydra (speed/range) build vs Boxer's early Tank Push on Plains to Hills or something and it worked out okay, maybe you should try that with some flanks and early +1 attack, if you can get enough hydra to stop the push, you should be able to get map control and lurkers and such.

If they are going Fast Expo, hydras could still be able to delay it, stall it, or something.
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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 19 2005 10:27 GMT
#15
Yeah, on neo forte u must play differently : Either you go mass glings and pray that ur terran is doing fast tanks which is pretty ok or you go fast hydras with range 1st (both of course by guarding the choke)
But when you scout pretty well the T with a mass glings strat u should know what he's doing therefore if you see no fast tanks just stop making glings and pump drones instead.

I'm agree though it's a hard zv sk t map t_t
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 19 2005 10:46 GMT
#16
Yeah, on neo forte u must play differently : Either you go mass glings and pray that ur terran is doing fast tanks which is pretty ok or you go fast hydras with range 1st (both of course by guarding the choke)
But when you scout pretty well the T with a mass glings strat u should know what he's doing therefore if you see no fast tanks just stop making glings and pump drones instead.

I'm agree though it's a hard zv sk t map t_t
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 19 2005 13:07 GMT
#17
a challenge is always good.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
September 19 2005 14:58 GMT
#18
12 hatch at choke into 3 hatch + drone micro vs bunker rush
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 19 2005 15:04 GMT
#19
is weak vs fast tank since either lurk or muta tech is to slow o_O
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
September 19 2005 15:14 GMT
#20
On September 20 2005 00:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
is weak vs fast tank since either lurk or muta tech is to slow o_O


A question : Why would it be weaker on this map compared for example to LT ? (just wanna know, no sarcasam involved )

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