The amount of facepalm...
That notation mean archons do 30 damage, each time you upgrade ground weapons it deals 3 more damage, so 33, 36, 39 with +1,2,3 weapons...splash damage means it deals splash damage

kerpal

United Kingdom2695 Posts

October 26 2013 16:15 GMT

#3287

On October 26 2013 23:27 traceurling wrote:
The amount of facepalm...
That notation mean archons do 30 damage, each time you upgrade ground weapons it deals 3 more damage, so 33, 36, 39 with +1,2,3 weapons...splash damage means it deals splash damage

which means half to units around? or is it a third?

traceurling

United States1240 Posts

October 26 2013 17:07 GMT

#3288

On October 27 2013 01:15 kerpal wrote:

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which means half to units around? or is it a third?

Radial splash is the most obvious type of splash damage, where the splash damage is dealt within a certain radius of the point of impact. There are three splash "ranges" for this type of splash damage: the point of impact, r1, and r2. Splash damage dealt in the r1 splash range is 50% of the original damage and splash damage dealt in the r2 range is 25% of the original damage.
See
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Splash_Damage

herozour

142 Posts

October 26 2013 22:58 GMT

#3289

So the reaver deals full damage under swarm same for infested terran and spider mine and firebat?

evilfatsh1t

Australia8778 Posts

October 27 2013 03:59 GMT

#3290

Not firebats

herozour

142 Posts

October 27 2013 04:14 GMT

#3291

So much confusion in the search for the truth.
Anyway I always thought that all damage but splash damage is removed when under swarm but apparently it is just misplaced. So can tank hit something which is under swarm directly?
The shots always misplaced 0.5 matrix above the unit?
Also scarab of reaver does FULL damage under swarm?

evilfatsh1t

Australia8778 Posts

October 27 2013 04:22 GMT

#3292

Tanks hit splash only. Scarabs do full damage. basically if the damage source is ranged, it will not hit. Scarabs and mines explode around it

Dead9

United States4725 Posts

October 27 2013 04:29 GMT

#3293

every source of splash damage (including firebats) does full damage under swarm

however, radial splash damage (archons and tanks) have their splash damage displaced
burrowed units are not affected by radial splash damage (the 1/2 and 1/4 rings of damage)
you can hit units directly with tanks/archons if they stand ~.5 matrices in front of whatever you target. this is occasionally useful for tanks to kill lurkers

the post by excalibur_z that i linked earlier is pretty thorough

herozour

142 Posts

October 27 2013 04:34 GMT

#3294

Does anyone know precise time for worker to gather gas?
Also what is the best rule for mineral saturation 1.5 workers per patch or 2.5 per patch?

evilfatsh1t

Australia8778 Posts

October 27 2013 05:10 GMT

#3295

depends on race. protoss and terran want around 40-60 workers. enough so that you can have 4 bases running at any one point. may go up to as high as 60 but come down to 40 when money is getting stacked up and you need supply for army.
zergs general rule is 5 per hatch. the reason zerg is so difficult to play for beginners is because zerg doesnt need its mineral lines to be as saturated as toss or terran, but beginners will then not produce enough drones and stay starved throughout the game. so basically for zerg just practice it heaps and get a gut feeling to it, but the general rule is 5 per hatch

herozour

142 Posts

October 27 2013 05:15 GMT

#3296

Well my question was if you play with only 1 base. What is the optimal amount of workers then for FASTEST mining possible.

Btw the total number of workers should not be higher then 70? Or 100?

Also where can I check precise time which worker stays in refinery and whatnot?

evilfatsh1t

Australia8778 Posts

October 27 2013 05:26 GMT

#3297

fastest mining possible would be 200 workers...
on 1 base 2 per patch will be enough but you should never stop worker production when you have only enough to saturate one base
no you should not have more than 70 workers. definitely not a 100 workers. your army size is going to be way too small
i have no idea what your 3rd question is asking, but you could probably check it yourself. open a game and time it with a stop watch

herozour

142 Posts

October 27 2013 05:30 GMT

#3298

Well at how many workers the mining slows down for 1 base?
2 per patch? I want to have the BEST mining in town but with reasonable amount of workers there.

So 60 is the worker limit in a pro game?
If I have 6 bases I should have 7 at mineras and 3 at gas in every base then?

evilfatsh1t

Australia8778 Posts

October 27 2013 05:36 GMT

#3299

the mining slows down when you start running out of patches
there is no limit, just a recommended amount
and i dont know why you would even want 6 bases as you cant have them all functioning at once, but that would be basically how it works. you wouldnt get gas at every base though, maybe up to the 4th. taking a 5th and 6th gas will leave you with a fuckton of gas you will never end up using.
seriously theres no point in asking all these questions. theyre hardly relevant to the outcome of a game in 90% of cases. just play more and focus on getting your basic mechanics/build orders up. when you can win solely through macro and micro even when having build order disadvantages, thats when you can start focusing on minor details like this.

herozour

142 Posts

October 27 2013 05:40 GMT

#3300

Well I'm playing single player and I want to have best saturation on maximum amount of bases so that I can have endless spam from 50 hatcheries at a superspeed.
But I just like optimizing things so I want to know the best amount of workers in a base. And based on that I can decide how many bases I should take.