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greatnoob
Profile Joined September 2012
Hungary50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 15:02:20
October 19 2013 14:32 GMT
#3221
On October 19 2013 23:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
in 1v1s tech goes up too fast that reavers and storms render m&m armies useless. emp, lockdowns and optic flares are too expensive to be tech up to, and even if you did reach that level of tech, you cant handle 200/200 protoss armies without mech


I wasn't talking about pure bio armies.

On the other hand, you got a point there. Does a pure bio tvp have any notable chances? Personally I dont know.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
October 19 2013 16:23 GMT
#3222
if youre apm was 1000 and your micro was the equivalent to having 5 slayers boxers controlling your army, then maybe it could be viable. 2 dropships full of m&m drops nexus' like nothing, meanwhile the rest of your bio army is fighting toss while microing out the injured units like crazy. but seriously, no its not viable at all unless its really early game (bbs)
herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
October 19 2013 20:50 GMT
#3223
What is manner buildings?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 19 2013 21:21 GMT
#3224
pure bio and biomech both work ok until storms come up

a manner building is one that blocks your opponents mining or buildings
for example pylon where the machine shop goes in PvT, taking your opponent's gas, or ebay where the 12hat goes in TvZ
herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 21:24:13
October 19 2013 21:24 GMT
#3225
On October 20 2013 06:21 Dead9 wrote:
pure bio and biomech both work ok until storms come up

a manner building is one that blocks your opponents mining or buildings
for example pylon where the machine shop goes in PvT, taking your opponent's gas, or ebay where the 12hat goes in TvZ

But wouldn't terran just lift his WF and build machine shop in another place? O_o
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 19 2013 21:38 GMT
#3226
On October 20 2013 06:24 herozour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 06:21 Dead9 wrote:
pure bio and biomech both work ok until storms come up

a manner building is one that blocks your opponents mining or buildings
for example pylon where the machine shop goes in PvT, taking your opponent's gas, or ebay where the 12hat goes in TvZ

But wouldn't terran just lift his WF and build machine shop in another place? O_o

yes but it still would be delayed.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
October 19 2013 21:43 GMT
#3227
it doesnt have to be blocking something to be a manner building
just building the building somewhere its not expected to be built pretty much.
you can get manner cc/nexus/hatcheries as well
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 19 2013 21:51 GMT
#3228
On October 19 2013 23:32 greatnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 23:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
in 1v1s tech goes up too fast that reavers and storms render m&m armies useless. emp, lockdowns and optic flares are too expensive to be tech up to, and even if you did reach that level of tech, you cant handle 200/200 protoss armies without mech


I wasn't talking about pure bio armies.

On the other hand, you got a point there. Does a pure bio tvp have any notable chances? Personally I dont know.

Theoretically if you were gosu as fuck you could lockdown all the reavers, EMP High Templar, destroy speedlots with firebats, and melt dragoons with marines. Theoretically. If you could get to a point where you have enough shit and tech and APM to do it.

On October 20 2013 06:24 herozour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 06:21 Dead9 wrote:
pure bio and biomech both work ok until storms come up

a manner building is one that blocks your opponents mining or buildings
for example pylon where the machine shop goes in PvT, taking your opponent's gas, or ebay where the 12hat goes in TvZ

But wouldn't terran just lift his WF and build machine shop in another place? O_o

Everything has a purpose there was one game where a Protoss placed a pylon where the machine shop goes so the Terran lifted but then the Protoss obnoxiously ran around under the factory (while being chased) and blocked it from landing with itself, whatever unit was chasing it, and pylons until by the time the Terran finally started construction of the machine shop he had a dragoon force knocking on his front door and no tank to deal with it
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herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
October 19 2013 23:00 GMT
#3229
If I shoot a unit that has 100 shield with 200 damage does the unit lose shield and gets 100 damage to the body? Or just loses shield?
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 19 2013 23:37 GMT
#3230
It gets 100 damage to the body as well.
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herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 23:50:06
October 19 2013 23:46 GMT
#3231
What is the speed of mana regeneration on units and health regeneration on zerg and speed of medic heal and SCV repairs and shield regeneration?
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 20 2013 00:18 GMT
#3232
On October 20 2013 08:46 herozour wrote:
What is the speed of mana regeneration on units and health regeneration on zerg and speed of medic heal and SCV repairs and shield regeneration?


http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/74862/at-what-rate-do-zerg-units-regenerate-hp-in-brood-war
http://code.google.com/p/bwapi/issues/detail?id=466
Too lazy to look for SCV
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 01:00:10
October 20 2013 00:59 GMT
#3233
On October 20 2013 09:18 traceurling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 08:46 herozour wrote:
What is the speed of mana regeneration on units and health regeneration on zerg and speed of medic heal and SCV repairs and shield regeneration?


http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/74862/at-what-rate-do-zerg-units-regenerate-hp-in-brood-war
http://code.google.com/p/bwapi/issues/detail?id=466
Too lazy to look for SCV

What are those points at bwapi page?
How much points does 1 HP have? 256?
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 20 2013 12:52 GMT
#3234
Pros hotkey comsats on 9-0 using f2-f3 to switch screens and they also use mouse right? How in the hell do they do it so fast? I mean your left hand has to be in 3 different places at once. Any gosu suggestions?
Michael Probu
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 20 2013 13:59 GMT
#3235
muscle memory i guess? one trick is to lessen using your mouse in moving the screen. as much as possible use hotkeys to move the screen and have your mouse at the center of the screen. if you need to navigate the map, click the mini map rather than moving there scrolling with your mouse.

keyword: lessen.

well, this is how i do it tho.
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 20 2013 14:03 GMT
#3236
Well they switch the screen with f-hotkeys but the mouse is required to select the comsats, so they probably don't press 9 and 0 with their right hand, which leaves left hand to press f2, hold ctrl and press 9, then f3 - 0. When I watch them though it seems they do it much faster than it is humanly possible.
Michael Probu
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 20 2013 14:25 GMT
#3237
oh your question is about hotkeying?

well, that i dont know. there are some vods with the camera on the keyboard somewhere. not necessarily specific to your question tho

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herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
October 20 2013 14:31 GMT
#3238
On October 20 2013 23:03 juvenal wrote:
Well they switch the screen with f-hotkeys but the mouse is required to select the comsats, so they probably don't press 9 and 0 with their right hand, which leaves left hand to press f2, hold ctrl and press 9, then f3 - 0. When I watch them though it seems they do it much faster than it is humanly possible.

The comsats can be bound to hotkeys. And usually left hand is doing everything.
You press 0 then scan then 9 and scan. What is so difficult about this?
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 20 2013 14:33 GMT
#3239
On October 20 2013 23:31 herozour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 23:03 juvenal wrote:
Well they switch the screen with f-hotkeys but the mouse is required to select the comsats, so they probably don't press 9 and 0 with their right hand, which leaves left hand to press f2, hold ctrl and press 9, then f3 - 0. When I watch them though it seems they do it much faster than it is humanly possible.

The comsats can be bound to hotkeys. And usually left hand is doing everything.
You press 0 then scan then 9 and scan. What is so difficult about this?

he's referring to how fast they can hotkey with only using your left hand.

the sequence is f2 -> ctrl + 0

he's asking how do they do it so fast (since your thumb should be reaching accross the keyboard)

im thinking is they're using the right hand side ctrl?
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 14:35:40
October 20 2013 14:33 GMT
#3240
On October 20 2013 23:03 juvenal wrote:
Well they switch the screen with f-hotkeys but the mouse is required to select the comsats, so they probably don't press 9 and 0 with their right hand, which leaves left hand to press f2, hold ctrl and press 9, then f3 - 0. When I watch them though it seems they do it much faster than it is humanly possible.

You simply press F2, move your hand to the right of the keyboard while clicking the comast, press Right Ctrl + 0 then press F3, click comsat, Right Ctrl + 9.
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