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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
August 30 2004 06:56 GMT
#21
I think [Eros]~TT reps would help you.

I went to WGT to try and find what ID he used on there but those ads (which I just saw for the first time) are too ugly to stand.
wtf was that signature
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 30 2004 07:05 GMT
#22
Yeah TT has got some really good PvZ stats so he's probably some good :O
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SupFace
Profile Joined August 2004
United States20 Posts
August 30 2004 07:08 GMT
#23
fucking awesome
You from out of town?
Pomozite
Profile Joined October 2002
Croatia647 Posts
August 30 2004 07:35 GMT
#24
Can you describe in few words what Eros TT does? I can't find any rep.
i used to be schizophrenic, but we re ok now
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
August 30 2004 08:12 GMT
#25
I have a few TT reps.
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
August 30 2004 08:29 GMT
#26
On August 29 2004 13:27 NonY wrote:
i dont recall any of the current best players becoming so skilled by reading advice on a messageboard.. why are so many people convinced that it's the smart thing to do now? who are these people on the top that got there from reading this shit?

perhaps the counter-argument will be "oh but nony, these people dont want to be the best.. they just want to improve in their own niche in starcraft, and they can do so by considering the tips and advice of their peers on teamliquid" and my response would be that although i execute starcraft.exe, join games, and hit the keys and move my mouse like them, i am playing an entirely different game.. and i dont understand the enjoyment that they get out of theirs =[


Very strange post. Getting advice from people better than yourself seems to me to be a pretty standard way of learning anything in life. I haven't the faintest idea why you think asking for Brood War advice in a Brood War forum is in any way unusual.
We are vigilant.
JoeUser
Profile Joined April 2004
United States684 Posts
August 30 2004 09:37 GMT
#27
I disagree with nony. I think sometimes you just need to ask questions. You could watch though 20 diffrent yaoyuan replays, and probably none of them would contain exactly what you need. Also, unless it's an RWA, replays don't talk. You need to hear people explain it to you. How many dozens of replay would T need to watch to understand that you know P is proxying? It would be like having to learn that all by himself, when all he had to do was post on tl.net and get a clear, intellegent response in 5 minutes. Learning from better players is much quicker than trying to learn by yourself.
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SpiriT-DemoN-
Profile Joined January 2003
United States684 Posts
August 30 2004 12:56 GMT
#28
If you don't have problems playing pvz on temple.. either your i.d. is PlayGrrrr... or your getting lucky.. pvz temple is friggen impossible
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 30 2004 14:39 GMT
#29
Get some replays of therock, he has a GREAT PvZ.
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Tossim1
Profile Joined June 2004
714 Posts
August 30 2004 14:47 GMT
#30
On August 30 2004 21:56 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote:
If you don't have problems playing pvz on temple.. either your i.d. is PlayGrrrr... or your getting lucky.. pvz temple is friggen impossible


i feel ya brotha
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-30 15:25:15
August 30 2004 15:20 GMT
#31
1.08 broke pvz

before you could just storm your way out of trouble.
expand, get a spotter with cannons under (usually a sair for the free ovie kill), get storm
lurker contain? just kill his lurkers with clone storm and a zealot lead.
come out, kill his other main and it's over.

3 hat muta was a pain, but tolerable and pretty readable.

now you need robotics. that 200 gas+observatory+obs is way too much.
he can snipe your obs with hydra if you find yourself in a tough spot.
even if you do break out he's had time to make his other main untouchable.
the game is automatically extended, and now you have to deal with ultras.
if it goes further, he can plague your army and auto kill your min only with swarm. against this you have no defense, and a very small window to prevent it from happening.

just arg.
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
August 30 2004 15:22 GMT
#32
late 1.07 pvz evolved into a total timing game, and that's where it's stayed
in pvz now you have to be right on top of whatever the zerg is doing, all the time
JAM THE FUCKER!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 30 2004 19:56 GMT
#33
On August 30 2004 21:56 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote:
If you don't have problems playing pvz on temple.. either your i.d. is PlayGrrrr... or your getting lucky.. pvz temple is friggen impossible

Apparently my id is PlayGrrrr... then.

Intotherain would have been a better example though.

Everyone is just insanely whiney about pvz because they have no timing.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SpiriT-DemoN-
Profile Joined January 2003
United States684 Posts
August 31 2004 02:00 GMT
#34
either way unless you get ahead of the zerg or harass well early.. your not goin to be able to keep up very well. i maxed units within 15min and still got whooped even with my storm kills. Zerg on temple isn't right..
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
baelrog
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria705 Posts
August 31 2004 04:17 GMT
#35
why are u diing to julyzerg wannabes if u make 1 gate tech?^^
i love u
[vital]Myth
Profile Joined May 2003
United States588 Posts
August 31 2004 05:22 GMT
#36
Just FYI, I really liked hexer[pG]'s builds from his GIGA series vs. Mondi. They were very solid as generic builds, adaptable and strong enough to keep Zerg busy in the early game. Sure hexer lost, but Mondi is extraordinarily good, and the last two games were on LT, which, by statistics (especially since it was Neo LT as opposed to 2.3) favors Z in PvZ. All I can say with confidence in my knowledge of the matchup is: remember, most importantly, to scout as much as possible. If you ever notice that you're not scouting, scout. Send a probe somewhere...do anything you can to see what the Zerg is doing, especially if he is expanding and how many gases he is using. Zerg's major advantage on a map with a gas natural is their ability to change tech very quickly, so you have to be on top of any changes if possible.
Thats like makin a soldier drop his weapon, shootin him, then tellin him to get to steppin. Obviously, they came to portion up his fortune. Sounds to me like that ol ROBBERY/EXTORTION.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 31 2004 07:20 GMT
#37
On August 31 2004 11:00 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote:
either way unless you get ahead of the zerg or harass well early.. your not goin to be able to keep up very well. i maxed units within 15min and still got whooped even with my storm kills. Zerg on temple isn't right..

Then you either
a) Missed the timing completely (being maxed is no fucking use if you just let zerg build up until then..)
b) Got raped by harass because you couldn't read the zerg
c) Zerg was wastly superior to you
d) You suck.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 31 2004 07:26 GMT
#38
On August 31 2004 13:17 baelrog wrote:
why are u diing to julyzerg wannabes if u make 1 gate tech?^^

Because his response to 1 gate tech is sending 30 zerglings at you. It works-_-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
KiLLme1st
Profile Joined December 2003
United States1824 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-31 09:11:21
August 31 2004 09:10 GMT
#39
Frozenarbiter <3

Seriously, everyone should listen to FA he is explaining the basic idea better than I think anyone I have ever talked too could. If you want an explanation listen to him, otherwise just play a lot and you will basically learn the same things he is saying.
CAPSLOCK IS AUTOPILOT FOR COOL
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-31 09:34:19
August 31 2004 09:34 GMT
#40
On August 31 2004 18:10 KiLLme1st- wrote:
Frozenarbiter <3

Seriously, everyone should listen to FA he is explaining the basic idea better than I think anyone I have ever talked too could. If you want an explanation listen to him, otherwise just play a lot and you will basically learn the same things he is saying.

^_^ Thanks <3

I remember when I learned the "If in doubt; 2 templar and make an archon.
If you know den tech, 1 ht 1 dt.
If you know spire, obviously 1 archon. No you do not make more than one archon, just expo and get goon storm."

I had played for like a few months and this 1600 korean gamei toss was teaching me, he had me repeat counters to the different zerg openings and like how to read the zerg and stuff for like 1 hour+ (would obviously have been shorter if he was fluent in english). Good times.

Good times! He's in the army now -_-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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