I think [Eros]~TT reps would help you.

I went to WGT to try and find what ID he used on there but those ads (which I just saw for the first time) are too ugly to stand.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33723 Posts

August 30 2004 07:05 GMT

#22

Yeah TT has got some really good PvZ stats so he's probably some good :O

SupFace

United States20 Posts

August 30 2004 07:08 GMT

#23

fucking awesome

Pomozite

Croatia647 Posts

August 30 2004 07:35 GMT

#24

Can you describe in few words what Eros TT does? I can't find any rep.

RiSE

United States3182 Posts

August 30 2004 08:12 GMT

#25

I have a few TT reps.

Arbiter[frolix]

United Kingdom2674 Posts

August 30 2004 08:29 GMT

#26

On August 29 2004 13:27 NonY wrote:
i dont recall any of the current best players becoming so skilled by reading advice on a messageboard.. why are so many people convinced that it's the smart thing to do now? who are these people on the top that got there from reading this shit?

perhaps the counter-argument will be "oh but nony, these people dont want to be the best.. they just want to improve in their own niche in starcraft, and they can do so by considering the tips and advice of their peers on teamliquid" and my response would be that although i execute starcraft.exe, join games, and hit the keys and move my mouse like them, i am playing an entirely different game.. and i dont understand the enjoyment that they get out of theirs =[

Very strange post. Getting advice from people better than yourself seems to me to be a pretty standard way of learning anything in life. I haven't the faintest idea why you think asking for Brood War advice in a Brood War forum is in any way unusual.

JoeUser

United States684 Posts

August 30 2004 09:37 GMT

#27

I disagree with nony. I think sometimes you just need to ask questions. You could watch though 20 diffrent yaoyuan replays, and probably none of them would contain exactly what you need. Also, unless it's an RWA, replays don't talk. You need to hear people explain it to you. How many dozens of replay would T need to watch to understand that you know P is proxying? It would be like having to learn that all by himself, when all he had to do was post on tl.net and get a clear, intellegent response in 5 minutes. Learning from better players is much quicker than trying to learn by yourself.

SpiriT-DemoN-

United States684 Posts

August 30 2004 12:56 GMT

#28

If you don't have problems playing pvz on temple.. either your i.d. is PlayGrrrr... or your getting lucky.. pvz temple is friggen impossible

ToKoreaWithLove

Norway10161 Posts

August 30 2004 14:39 GMT

#29

Get some replays of therock, he has a GREAT PvZ.

Tossim1

714 Posts

August 30 2004 14:47 GMT

#30

On August 30 2004 21:56 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote:
If you don't have problems playing pvz on temple.. either your i.d. is PlayGrrrr... or your getting lucky.. pvz temple is friggen impossible

i feel ya brotha

Casper...

Liberia4948 Posts

August 30 2004 15:20 GMT

#31

1.08 broke pvz

before you could just storm your way out of trouble.
expand, get a spotter with cannons under (usually a sair for the free ovie kill), get storm
lurker contain? just kill his lurkers with clone storm and a zealot lead.
come out, kill his other main and it's over.

3 hat muta was a pain, but tolerable and pretty readable.

now you need robotics. that 200 gas+observatory+obs is way too much.
he can snipe your obs with hydra if you find yourself in a tough spot.
even if you do break out he's had time to make his other main untouchable.
the game is automatically extended, and now you have to deal with ultras.
if it goes further, he can plague your army and auto kill your min only with swarm. against this you have no defense, and a very small window to prevent it from happening.

just arg.

Casper...

Liberia4948 Posts

August 30 2004 15:22 GMT

#32

late 1.07 pvz evolved into a total timing game, and that's where it's stayed
in pvz now you have to be right on top of whatever the zerg is doing, all the time

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33723 Posts

August 30 2004 19:56 GMT

#33

On August 30 2004 21:56 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote:
If you don't have problems playing pvz on temple.. either your i.d. is PlayGrrrr... or your getting lucky.. pvz temple is friggen impossible

Apparently my id is PlayGrrrr... then.

Intotherain would have been a better example though.

Everyone is just insanely whiney about pvz because they have no timing.

SpiriT-DemoN-

United States684 Posts

August 31 2004 02:00 GMT

#34

either way unless you get ahead of the zerg or harass well early.. your not goin to be able to keep up very well. i maxed units within 15min and still got whooped even with my storm kills. Zerg on temple isn't right..

baelrog

Austria705 Posts

August 31 2004 04:17 GMT

#35

why are u diing to julyzerg wannabes if u make 1 gate tech?^^

[vital]Myth

United States588 Posts

August 31 2004 05:22 GMT

#36

Just FYI, I really liked hexer[pG]'s builds from his GIGA series vs. Mondi. They were very solid as generic builds, adaptable and strong enough to keep Zerg busy in the early game. Sure hexer lost, but Mondi is extraordinarily good, and the last two games were on LT, which, by statistics (especially since it was Neo LT as opposed to 2.3) favors Z in PvZ. All I can say with confidence in my knowledge of the matchup is: remember, most importantly, to scout as much as possible. If you ever notice that you're not scouting, scout. Send a probe somewhere...do anything you can to see what the Zerg is doing, especially if he is expanding and how many gases he is using. Zerg's major advantage on a map with a gas natural is their ability to change tech very quickly, so you have to be on top of any changes if possible.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33723 Posts

August 31 2004 07:20 GMT

#37

On August 31 2004 11:00 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote:
either way unless you get ahead of the zerg or harass well early.. your not goin to be able to keep up very well. i maxed units within 15min and still got whooped even with my storm kills. Zerg on temple isn't right..

Then you either
a) Missed the timing completely (being maxed is no fucking use if you just let zerg build up until then..)
b) Got raped by harass because you couldn't read the zerg
c) Zerg was wastly superior to you
d) You suck.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33723 Posts

August 31 2004 07:26 GMT

#38

On August 31 2004 13:17 baelrog wrote:
why are u diing to julyzerg wannabes if u make 1 gate tech?^^

Because his response to 1 gate tech is sending 30 zerglings at you. It works-_-

KiLLme1st

United States1824 Posts

August 31 2004 09:10 GMT

#39

Frozenarbiter <3

Seriously, everyone should listen to FA he is explaining the basic idea better than I think anyone I have ever talked too could. If you want an explanation listen to him, otherwise just play a lot and you will basically learn the same things he is saying.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33723 Posts

August 31 2004 09:34 GMT

#40

On August 31 2004 18:10 KiLLme1st- wrote:
Frozenarbiter <3

^_^ Thanks <3

I remember when I learned the "If in doubt; 2 templar and make an archon.
If you know den tech, 1 ht 1 dt.
If you know spire, obviously 1 archon. No you do not make more than one archon, just expo and get goon storm."

I had played for like a few months and this 1600 korean gamei toss was teaching me, he had me repeat counters to the different zerg openings and like how to read the zerg and stuff for like 1 hour+ (would obviously have been shorter if he was fluent in english). Good times.

Good times! He's in the army now -_-