What is the best counter against m&m/tank rush. Seems like goons doesn't work. Sometime i see he builds 2 barracks, but even if Im prepared for i, (building dark templars) he just scans.

FreeZEternal

Korea (South)3396 Posts

February 25 2004 03:22 GMT

#62

You have to micro the shit out of your dragoons....
I can post a replay if you want^^

Commander{+}

United States2878 Posts

February 25 2004 04:01 GMT

#63

On February 25 2004 01:50 WickeD wrote:
LOL I need ur advice!

I have trouble in TvP (me T) with this situation: I go a usual build involving 2 fact vulture rush, or a straightforward push, or a 2 tank drop which is ok except aI blow it. Toss takes minimal damage to units and economy and I lost most of my attack force (vultures, my push, dropship). This is a very shitty situation, I am contained I barley get my natural but I can't breakout and he is taking the map... What can I do?

I think I can answer that. If you go 2 fact vult rush, or 1 fact starport build, you HAVE to cause more damage to the toss then the losses you take, otherwise it will slow you down to much to win in the long run. this isn't always the case, but if the toss is a good enough player he will just outplay you if your initial harass fails. A good thing to do if you suck at harass is just go 2 fact tank build, take nat asap, and make only tanks for the first 10~ mins of the game, and just push out asap while taking your min only nat and taking center. On temple basically its usually who takes the center wins. If the terran takes the center he will usually win because he can take the other 2 gases, but if the toss denies terran of taking center he will usually win because he can just outplay the terran.

It can go much more in depth, depending on how good you and your opponent are, but thats a pretty conventional tvp game.

Peatza

Sweden393 Posts

February 25 2004 05:44 GMT

#64

hmm, where is the great LOL!!!!!

SpuniasauR

Australia1500 Posts

February 25 2004 06:30 GMT

#65

ok foine. i made a thread but the name was a lil excited cuz i was pissed at this strat. legion plz wat sexy toss suggestions do u have v. a zerg who goes hard out lings non stop? cuz +1 zeals dont cut it when there is a massssss runnin about everywhere, and my archons get singled out... i been trying to use zeal wall for archon and reavers and that works, but in the end i cant really leave my base, and being a kind obliging zerg he expos, everywhere. im really havin trouble, maybe its my unit mix?? once hes broke my choke or i try to get out with a large force i find my main being raised... and they snipe pylons like anythingggg.

Roman

United States2595 Posts

February 25 2004 09:19 GMT

#66

LOL; what do you do vs a island taker who has half the map and fully upgraded ultra/ling?

z7-TranCe

Canada3158 Posts

February 25 2004 10:09 GMT

#67

you die roundeye

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

February 25 2004 12:10 GMT

#68

i wonder if little korean kids bug their eyes out and pretend to shoot each other, pretending to be americans just like we used to pull our eyes slanty, stick out our front teeth, and talk like an idiot, pretending to be asian

STIMEY d okgm fish

Canada6140 Posts

February 25 2004 12:43 GMT

#69

yeah i can imagine some koreanz childrens bugging their eyes out going "ima kill u white bitch FO SHEEZY" :/ it would be funny to see, sorta. not a funny post tho. just agreeing.. :/

SpuniasauR

Australia1500 Posts

February 25 2004 16:31 GMT

#70

man roman later game is fine, by then u have spare cash for cannon defence everywhere and besides u have an army by then (or else the game wouldnt have gone on so long)... its really early game when u just cant get ur zeals around a buttload of lings and with 1 gas its hard to power archons etc. also if u dont get some shit out of ur base he can expand recklessly. which is disgusting to see.
i guess if the guy is goin insane w/ lings ill just quickly switch to reaver, exp then grab corsair and play it island style.... eh

FreeZEternal

Korea (South)3396 Posts

February 25 2004 20:08 GMT

#71

You have to micro zealots and archons...kill about half of his army, retreat...refill army..attack again...(while expanding)..repeat this until zerg changes to another strat(hunters style) +_+..but usually..if zerg goes three hatch zergling(in LT)..it is a good idea to go corsair +_+;; while holding a zealot wall at your entrance..(asssuming LT).From there on you can see what the zerg does when he starts to tech+_+;;

Peatza

Sweden393 Posts

February 26 2004 01:45 GMT

#72

Didn't take long before this thread became teamliquified, which means no takes it seriosly, and posts stupid comments all the time. The creator of the thread doesn't find any interest of the thread,and leaves it to die, not looking if someone actually has a question.

FreeZEternal

Korea (South)3396 Posts

February 26 2004 02:35 GMT

#73

stupid comments? wtf?
You should stop posting newbs questions

rEliaX

Sweden78 Posts

February 26 2004 03:58 GMT

#74

LOL :
PvZ:
What on earth am I supposed to do if I (to late), realize the zerg has two islands all deffend with 5-6 sunkens and 2-3 spores, and hes going for adrelings/ultras. I loose to it so many times T_T

PvT:I could use any tips about what im supposed to do when a terran fast expos

Adamthegreat

Sweden1179 Posts

February 26 2004 04:31 GMT

#75

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Commander{+}

United States2878 Posts

February 26 2004 05:05 GMT

#76

Well ALWAYS surround a new expo with cannons and keep some backup units close (a few zealots/templars). Thats pretty standard in pvz, I dunno abiout question 1.

Roman

United States2595 Posts

February 26 2004 06:48 GMT

#77

if u can cause significant damage yes.

Peatza

Sweden393 Posts

February 26 2004 14:51 GMT

#78

On February 26 2004 11:35 FreeZEternal wrote:
stupid comments? wtf?
You should stop posting newbs questions

Seems like even you have problems answering them.

Legionnaire

Australia4514 Posts

February 26 2004 21:50 GMT

#79

On February 24 2004 12:19 ret wrote:
what is the best way to micro your units in PvZ , Goon / Zeal / Temp / obs Vs a Lurker / Scourge contain or a Sunken Lurker Spore colony defense?
-_-;

LOL #2

(okay i've been really busy working on things at the moment so i've picked a nice easy one for you all(*cough* for me), to tide me over until the easy times come again and i can waste many hours talking about the wonders of the sexy overlord underbelly!)

- I've done up some of it (i just cut and pasted the header into this), and i'll finish it off tommorrow after the finals match. Its sort of similar to the last one, just talkign about the different styles you can do it etc etc.
Of course before then, if you have any questions within this topic just ask before tommorrow and i'll cover that as well.

(i'll just edit this post for my final one)

cheers