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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 21 2004 05:31 GMT
#141
On March 21 2004 13:24 ApollyoN wrote:
LOL: How do you micro your units PvT against a set up push (this is assuming unit count is almost = of course)


Right well you send a few of your zealots out with the goons. Reason being they draw tank fire and mines to some degree. The goons need to be taking out the mines and vults as fast as possible.

Send your other zealots in fairly quickly, and have them run straight for the tanks. If there aren't many vultures left, that's perfect.

Just micro your zealots so they're about 2-3 per tank. once they kill a tank send them to another.

If the terran is bad and clumps his tanks in one big blob, templar are crazy . If they blob up their tanks, they're easy prey for zealots.

If your zealots all die and he still has 5-6 tanks to your goons.. Run away. You'll lose too many goons.

Basically the attack on the push is kind of over once the zealots have done their job, so make sure to kill as many vultures as possible before the vultures can deplete your zealot count
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-21 09:20:00
March 21 2004 09:19 GMT
#142
^this i know, i just wanted one of peter's great essays on the subject
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 21 2004 12:52 GMT
#143
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 21 2004 21:52 GMT
#144
If unit count is same...it is kinda hard+_+;;;;; goon soup -_-
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
March 22 2004 04:40 GMT
#145
LOL still hasn't arrived
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
March 22 2004 10:23 GMT
#146
Use FedEx!
sideproject: twitch.tv Starcraft II Viewers data - http://twitchsc2data.com/
Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
March 25 2004 12:23 GMT
#147
nooooo where is LOL?
Riding a bike is overrated.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
March 25 2004 20:57 GMT
#148
You know we should have some question thread, where anybody (or just other pro's) can answer it. It would be like LOL thread but more answers! Of course you have to make it prestigious so people want to get it .
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
March 28 2004 12:30 GMT
#149
LT, terran 12 toss 9 - terran survives early game and mass dropships. What to do? Where to exp? How to counteract his mobility? What units to build, and all that?
Dang-it
Profile Joined December 2003
United States557 Posts
March 28 2004 14:30 GMT
#150
what do u mean survive anyways?
meh?
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
March 29 2004 10:25 GMT
#151
Well, the game is coming out of the early build-order part and entering the execution phase, and terran takes whatever you throw at him and starts pumping dropships.
sliggdogg
Profile Joined April 2004
Australia178 Posts
April 10 2004 15:31 GMT
#152
ok I have a question.
In TvT, how do you stop a wraith rush followed by tanks? I've lost to this strategy from the same newbie twice in TvT. Wraith rush delay my factory, then tank kill me.
Yippee.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 10 2004 15:46 GMT
#153
uh.. go straight to gol? once his investment in wraiths fails brutally, rape him.

He has to make a whole other building, just like you do. But armory comes quicker. You'll have goliaths to defend in time.. After that it should be easy, you dont need very many to keep wraiths out of your hair..
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-10 18:35:05
April 10 2004 18:30 GMT
#154
slippy, in response to ur question i like to think of 2 ways to stop this. and im by no means recognised but i have known ALOT of turtling dropship terrans in my time

1. either start cannoning up and wait for him to drop his shit (have couple of cannons and hts on standby) when he drops his stuff he will have lots of troubles due to hts and his metal will all be clumped perfect for storm. this also is basically what u do on island pvt, same army format (goon/zeal but add in more HT)
or
2. go for a stargate and grab sairs. if u want to take the dropships down faster and u have cash go scouts with movement upgrade (this is also the oldschool l337 cool way ) or grab carriers. if hes using dropships often he will make a couple wraith for support (snipe HTs before land etc?) in that case dont forget to rally ur robfac to ur carriers/scouts/sairs so u have a ready supply of detection. note that this is a much more micro/intelligent build cuz if u miss the dropships en route to destination u got a bunch of sair/scout which dont do anything major except dweb.

erhm when u said 12/9 i assume u mean he cant force his way onto u early game (like in 6/9) and that he can abuse ur cliff for both ur natural and min only?? then drop goons, or probe and a couple cannons on ur cliff, or patrol with the aforesaid air.

if u wanna be classy use DA's to mindcontrol his dropships, mobile terran harass force scouts are also cool to see floating about seeing many people dont make them. and KEEP HIM OFF ISLANDS, or else the game will drag 20-30 more minutes than it should.

edit: one more thing u can play it tvt style and counter drop him with zeal/dt in speed shuttle. works well but it wont take down his dropships, and often if ur not onto it fast they can cripple ur economy and do large amounts of damage by the time uve countered.
A firebat to your Zergling.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
April 10 2004 19:56 GMT
#155
build a scout or two
AUSSIESCUM
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
April 11 2004 02:08 GMT
#156
LOL has not arrived
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
April 11 2004 06:46 GMT
#157
does leg post at all anymore?
Entusman #12
sliggdogg
Profile Joined April 2004
Australia178 Posts
April 11 2004 10:05 GMT
#158
On April 11 2004 00:46 Rt-S.FakeSteve wrote:
uh.. go straight to gol? once his investment in wraiths fails brutally, rape him.

He has to make a whole other building, just like you do. But armory comes quicker. You'll have goliaths to defend in time.. After that it should be easy, you dont need very many to keep wraiths out of your hair..


And what about the tanks that follow up? What about investing in detection?
Yippee.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-11 10:44:57
April 11 2004 10:43 GMT
#159
gollies > tanks in small numbers
after he gets his ports, he has to build factories, which you already have. you should be ahead if you hold off his wraith with little to no losses
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
April 13 2004 01:34 GMT
#160
LOL is gone -_-;
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