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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
On March 08 2004 03:29 TreY wrote: Okay.. we'll say 3v9 on LT, or any other distant starting spots on any other map If the spots are far enough (that's not bad) go 12 or 14 Nexus, then Forge, then a couple cannons. | ||
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TreY
United States997 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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SpuniasauR
Australia1500 Posts
i think it is universal that 2 gate zeal then pylon is the most suitable. on non ramp maps u might want a earlish forge (old school tossers used to like 1 gate forge, i still use it in team games!) and after u put up that pylon use some intuition. if u think ull need more zeals (hes goin 4 ling mania) then make more, otherwise put up a assimilator at 21 or so supply and start harvesting, putting cyber up asap. | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
(and my name sounds like cock, so it's so much cooler!) | ||
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StaSiS
United States147 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
On March 09 2004 08:27 TreY wrote: Thanks Reaper. What about if the positions are closer? 12 v 3 - Don't do it, Zerg will realize what's going on too quickly and go for a lot of units. 12 v 9 - Worth a shot, their Drone might get there a little quick though. 12 vs 6 - Very good spots to do this. 12 vs anything - Remember that the choke point at this spot makes for good early expo cannon placement. 3 vs 12 - Don't to it. Zerg's Overlord will see and many many units will come. 3 vs 9 - Good spots. 3 vs 6 - Zerg's scouting Drone will get to you quickly, but these aren't totally terrible spots. 6 vs 12 - Great spots. 6 vs 3 - Pretty good. 6 vs 9 - Their Overlord might see but there is distance between spots to compensate. 9 vs 12 - Zerg's Drone may or may not get there early. Decent spots to try it. 9 vs 3 - Scouts won't reach here for a while, far away, good to try it. 9 vs 6 - Overlord will probably see, but there is distance between the bases to compensate. 9 vs anything - 9 is so good for defending, remember that. There you go. | ||
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Dang-it
United States557 Posts
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
On March 13 2004 11:56 x[ReaPeR]x wrote: 12 v 3 - Don't do it, Zerg will realize what's going on too quickly and go for a lot of units. 12 v 9 - Worth a shot, their Drone might get there a little quick though. 12 vs 6 - Very good spots to do this. 12 vs anything - Remember that the choke point at this spot makes for good early expo cannon placement. 3 vs 12 - Don't to it. Zerg's Overlord will see and many many units will come. 3 vs 9 - Good spots. 3 vs 6 - Zerg's scouting Drone will get to you quickly, but these aren't totally terrible spots. 6 vs 12 - Great spots. 6 vs 3 - Pretty good. 6 vs 9 - Their Overlord might see but there is distance between spots to compensate. 9 vs 12 - Zerg's Drone may or may not get there early. Decent spots to try it. 9 vs 3 - Scouts won't reach here for a while, far away, good to try it. 9 vs 6 - Overlord will probably see, but there is distance between the bases to compensate. 9 vs anything - 9 is so good for defending, remember that. There you go. as a conclusion 9 and 6 are almost always good spots to this and at 12 or 3 i'd scout 9 from 12 and 6 from 3 then if he isn't there and no ovi cancel ur gate(s) and xp if ovi has come or he is there then don't xp... | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
I'm curious if either of our resident Protoss experts (Legion? Rek?) would be kind enough to offer their bountiful wisdom and valuable time to make a few since PvZ and PvT seem to be popular matchups for discussion. Maybe someone who knows TvP or ZvP really well could do a RWA while making some comments from the perspective of someone who's facing P as either T or Z (PvP is lame and not worth RWAing in my opinion  ) | ||
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United States7081 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
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United States7081 Posts
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JoObS
United States18 Posts
but what do you suggest to someone who is just starting to play protoss (im pissed with newbie zerg...ok not newbie, but im american, and not fast enough to be good w/ them ) | ||
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United States7081 Posts
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Yarertz
Djibouti1891 Posts
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UrASofty
Canada772 Posts
this is my build order vs it i 9/10 gate and etc and expo around 8 minutes with speed lots and a couple of temps what should i do ? HLEP ME!@#@!#!@# | ||
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Roman
United States2595 Posts
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ApollyoN
United States1297 Posts
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