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wok
United States504 Posts
On September 02 2009 15:32 MoOnrai11 wrote: Takes alot of emotional intellegence not to continue to cheat. So I wouldn't advise it for most. This cheat doesn't work against a real opponent. As somebody said, you'd just desync from server and be instantly dropped. | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
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wok
United States504 Posts
On September 02 2009 18:11 IceCube wrote: Anyone know if you actually install Cheat Engine and use it on SC just to speed up in single player will have any effect on Iccup antihack, when the CE is off. I mean you still you install it and use it to modify the SC's memory... You'll be fine. Anti-hack checks for memory modifications, not suspicious stuff on your desktop. Also, to all the music analogies out there: I completely agree and would recommend refining my method to be less a bajillion times of one then a bajillion times the other speed, and more back and forth to maintain precision. There is, however, the key difference between SC and music. There is an upper limit to how fast you'd reasonably be expected to play the concerto. Playing it faster than that will not get you a louder applause. That is training for precision. The more valid analogy is the one I have mentioned, to swimming or sprinting. We are training for speed. Thus, larger increments of speed increase should be all right. The theory is that it is much more useful to practice precision at high speed than to practice artificially speeding up your apm by spamming. | ||
KwarK
United States44201 Posts
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wok
United States504 Posts
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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
China685 Posts
On September 02 2009 15:32 MoOnrai11 wrote: Takes alot of emotional intellegence not to continue to cheat. So I wouldn't advise it for most. Hi ex-cheater, have you come clean at last? | ||
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wok
United States504 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
I love how every single person who bashes training like this has NOT ONCE TRIED IT yet. They write big posts with big words about how because of this and that it is not likely that this will do shit, so therefore it's not gonna help at all, when they could have used that time to actually try it out for themselves. lol, just lol. Sometimes reading TL makes me sad. I'm installing speed gear now and I'm gonna try this out, thanks a lot wok. | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
To the fellow who thought the music analogy was no good, I'd like to clarify a bit. Starcraft IS not ONLY muscle memory, but is also not ONLY strategy and reaction. Music is the same. Jazz music is heavily improvised. The tune Giant Steps by Coltrane is a great example - No one can even touch his that because his technique was so good. If I'm soloing, and the harmony changes unexpectedly, I need to react. All the technique in the world doesnt get you anywhere , both in SC and music. But if you have no technique/mechanics, you'll never be able to pull off the double drop while decoying at the front gates. I just think that this is an effective way to train (having done it) one aspect of your game. If you dont, that is all well and good, but you should do your best to try it with an open mind first. Cheerio. | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
2. Install 3. You might have to enable "show advanced options" in options. 4. Click Process and select the game you want to speed up, it'll have a starcraft icon usually 5. Enable "speedhack" checkbox 6. Select speed 7. ????? 8. Profit | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On September 03 2009 01:31 Nevuk wrote: Using speedgear is a lot easier than using cheatengine IMO. yeah using speedgear you just install, start, you can choose what speed you wish. It's only a trial with 30 uses but surely there's a way around that... Anyways, I just tried this and it's freaking great. I just had like 4 games against the comp, then I tried normal speed and really it all seemed sooo slow. I checked speed gear again if it really was back to 1x. Then a few sec later I quit the program just to be sure it's not slowing anything down, cause the animations suddenly seemed a little laggy too. My apm was automatically quite a bit higher (wok mentioned his isn't but his already was 250 apm, which I consider very high already [mine is only 160-170] and I was already a little more coordinated, I always transfer drones to my natural too late, this time I did not. So screw all that "it fucks up your muscle memory/ fucks up your timing" bs. | ||
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2on2
United States142 Posts
Not bashing the idea of using this as a training tool. for instance versus a computer this will allow you to practice builds, splitting workers asap and things like that. Maybe this will help some The way i work on my mechanics is to play vs someone better than me, and make the games last as long as possible like 30-40 minutes giving me an opportunity to play off 3+ bases, getting familiar with the builds, trimming excess clicks, making things more efficient imo Practice practice practice | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On September 03 2009 01:54 2on2 wrote: This is a very interesting way to practice mechanics...but I dont see how one could micro at a higher speed. Gamesense wont be improved and micro would be pointless imo Not bashing the idea of using this as a training tool. for instance versus a computer this will allow you to practice builds, splitting workers asap and things like that. Maybe this will help some The way i work on my mechanics is to play vs someone better than me, and make the games last as long as possible like 30-40 minutes giving me an opportunity to play off 3+ bases, getting familiar with the builds, trimming excess clicks, making things more efficient imo Practice practice practice No this obviously won't improve game sense. And it won't improve micro by itself, but I'm sure unless youre already amazingly fast this will simply help you be faster. This will mean more multitasking, and you will have more time to micro/macro. The way you suggest to train sounds great, but first of all not everybody has a practice partner who is better and is willing to play worse so that every game will be such super long game. Secondly, it's not like using this to practice every now and then, doesn't mean you can still mass games. Playing a few games vs comp like this doesn't take much time at all, because, guess what, every game is twice is fast  | ||
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integral
United States3161 Posts
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KwarK
United States44201 Posts
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SanguineToss
Canada815 Posts
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
i've beaten computers on x5, but the thing is its easier than vs a normal player. this method will make you just produce units as fast as you can and attack move in their base because comps dont micro. you dont need to upgrade,micro,harrass, take more than 2 expansion, make probes constantly. the way you win on x5 is just getting 1 expo and make some probes and then just push units out of ur 8 gates all the time without doing anything else. thats it. it doesn't help. you would need to force urself to do everything you would do against an intelligent player so that it helps. but you wont, because its not needed against the comp | ||
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KwarK
United States44201 Posts
On September 03 2009 04:14 SanguineToss wrote: Cheating=modifying=cheating=hacking=not allowed=ban You can't use this vs a player without their consent. Cheating has to be nonconsensual or no-one is getting exploited. | ||
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