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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
September 02 2009 19:29 GMT
#81
Lol this even works with flashgames on the internet ! i gotta find that old multitask game
my score can be insane !
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43818 Posts
September 02 2009 19:29 GMT
#82
On September 03 2009 04:22 MasterReY wrote:
i used it some times in the past but that doesnt really help.

i've beaten computers on x5, but the thing is its easier than vs a normal player.

this method will make you just produce units as fast as you can and attack move in their base because comps dont micro.

you dont need to upgrade,micro,harrass, take more than 2 expansion, make probes constantly.

the way you win on x5 is just getting 1 expo and make some probes and then just push units out of ur 8 gates all the time without doing anything else. thats it. it doesn't help.

you would need to force urself to do everything you would do against an intelligent player so that it helps. but you wont, because its not needed against the comp

I intend to use this against humans on 1.2x or something similar. Enough to push me but not enough to make me start dropping useful actions in an attempt to prioritise.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 02 2009 19:46 GMT
#83
On September 02 2009 20:38 potchip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 20:12 Sadistx wrote:
I tried playing this yesterday and my apm actually went down from my usual ~170 to around 120. Then again i forgot to hotkey shit for most of the game Planting mines with vultures makes me float so high in mins


That means a lot of apm on hotkeys! ;P Almost like EAPM :p

Btw, as for those talking about mod memory, as far as I understand the program does not wok at sc memory level or app level, it alters the internal clock of the application against cpu cycle or somewhere along those lines. When I used it back in like '99, the 'speed gear' was simply a sliding bar that you can decrease/increase computer's clock vs real time, and it works at OS level, no option to be applicaiotn specific. I don't know how much the program has been updated since then.



Cheatengine is application specific.
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 02 2009 19:48 GMT
#84
What about the larvae spawn rate?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
September 02 2009 19:48 GMT
#85
At first I thought it was about cheating some train , like riding without a ticket lol
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 02 2009 19:52 GMT
#86
Shauni! :D You're so pro, yes you are <3

anyway, on topic:

Anwer to "what about ______?"
the answer will be "yes! It too will be 2x!"
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 02 2009 19:55 GMT
#87
On September 03 2009 04:22 MasterReY wrote:
i used it some times in the past but that doesnt really help.

i've beaten computers on x5, but the thing is its easier than vs a normal player.

this method will make you just produce units as fast as you can and attack move in their base because comps dont micro.

you dont need to upgrade,micro,harrass, take more than 2 expansion, make probes constantly.

the way you win on x5 is just getting 1 expo and make some probes and then just push units out of ur 8 gates all the time without doing anything else. thats it. it doesn't help.

you would need to force urself to do everything you would do against an intelligent player so that it helps. but you wont, because its not needed against the comp


Well I have no intention of beating the comp, what I did was just to practice my build orders, like I'd do if I played a computer on normal speed.
Having simply the goal of defeating the comp seems like a waste of time to me.
beep boop
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 20:17:26
September 02 2009 19:59 GMT
#88
You should have made the OP into a sonnet, Mr. Bulldog. It seems like a good idea, though. Sure, it's not going to make you jump ranks (I think that's why a lot of people keep on mentioning "massgaming" - there is no substitute for experience), but I bet it will make your gameplay a lot smoother and more comfortable.

EDIT: Just tried this 2x seems okay, but 7.5x ... holy shit... I can't even double tap a hotkey to center on a building... But even on 2x, a mouse speed that seems perfectly fine in a normal game seems hellishly slow. Anyways, really cool, wok. I'll try this some more when I get home just practicing BOs or something. By the way, I'm going to hunt you down when I somehow manage to fry my computer.
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 02 2009 20:04 GMT
#89
Hahahaa. Thanks for the 10/5 troll rating on my other post :p and I should! *starts to rewrite*
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
MoOnrai11
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 21:52:55
September 02 2009 21:52 GMT
#90
I just am.
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 02 2009 23:00 GMT
#91
On September 03 2009 06:52 MoOnrai11 wrote:


I appreciate your post.
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
September 02 2009 23:16 GMT
#92
On September 03 2009 08:00 wok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 06:52 MoOnrai11 wrote:


I appreciate your post.


thats a phylosophical way to express his feelings toward his experience with the training tool you have offered us.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 02 2009 23:23 GMT
#93
lol. :p No... I'm not trying to be mean! I just thought it was hilarious that of his 3 posts, at least one was blank. hahaha.
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
September 02 2009 23:46 GMT
#94
I used to play 2x wc3 obs.

Trust me, it only screws you up.
the throws never bothered me anyway
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 23:59:44
September 02 2009 23:59 GMT
#95
You can't mutalisk micro on anything higher than 2x...unless you have over 500 apm or something...
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
September 03 2009 00:15 GMT
#96
Muta micro is just too easy and powerful at 2x. just A move anywhere and mutas attack nearly instantly when marines come close enough. So if you want to do muta micro I would not suggest modding the speed.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 03 2009 00:22 GMT
#97
This is more of a challenge to yourself than training or practice vs other players. For 1 the comp sucks no matter what. 2, this requires a whole new skill set than a regular game. 3, none of this is applicable to a human player.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 03 2009 00:40 GMT
#98
Just curious (maybe this has already been answered): what would happen if you tried to play against someone on x2 speed while he was running the .exe at normal speed?
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Would it even be possible?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 03 2009 00:56 GMT
#99
On September 03 2009 09:22 CharlieMurphy wrote:
This is more of a challenge to yourself than training or practice vs other players. For 1 the comp sucks no matter what. 2, this requires a whole new skill set than a regular game. 3, none of this is applicable to a human player.


have you actually tried it?
beep boop
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43818 Posts
September 03 2009 01:12 GMT
#100
I played a few games of this vs Pads. I usually feel rushed, as if I'm doing everything a second late, late game when it comes to multitasking whereas on 1.3x speed I felt like that midgame. It punishes you for basic errors like not using the f keys for saving workers too. I felt it was helpful for forcing me to adapt to more actions, with pre-emptive pylons for psi and checking gates more often. No more helpful than loading up a save game of the late game and playing it over and over but even so, it's good practice for multitasking.
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