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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 03 2009 01:49 GMT
#101
On September 02 2009 13:58 ella_guru wrote:
I think this is incredibly valid.

I'm a music major on the classical guitar and this is _the_ most common way to increase the speed of the fingers. The metronome method - Learn something perfect, flawless at a very slow speed, taking care of every detail. Then, go up two notches on the metronome, then down one, then up two, etc. If you dont rush this method, you can gain massive speed increases, sometimes double or more when the music requires it. Great musicians can play anything they normally play much faster. Your just increasing your limit, so you have even more breathing room. If you can have less large jumps in speed, I would totally do this.

Practice doesnt make perfect. Perfect Practice makes perfect.

Edit : ^^ it seemed I was typing my response as you were. Cool that it made us chime up the same idea!

Actually, there is about a million analogies to make. Typing being one we can all relate to. I can type alright at about 80 wpm or so, but I could guaranteed no mistakes at 40 wpm.

i do the same thing when learning a new song on bass or whatever
Eggplant
Profile Joined June 2009
United States120 Posts
September 03 2009 03:59 GMT
#102
Sweet. Recommend closing thread because hacking is 100% not tolerated.
:)
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
September 03 2009 04:28 GMT
#103
On September 03 2009 12:59 Eggplant wrote:
Sweet. Recommend closing thread because hacking is 100% not tolerated.

Try reading the OP first.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Eggplant
Profile Joined June 2009
United States120 Posts
September 03 2009 04:28 GMT
#104
I am the OP. I just got banned. Lol.
:)
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44032 Posts
September 03 2009 04:37 GMT
#105
The other program gives the user an unfair advantage. This mod does not. One is cheating, the other is not. That said, you might get banned for multiple accounts.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Eggplant
Profile Joined June 2009
United States120 Posts
September 03 2009 04:41 GMT
#106
To be expected. Hey Kwark, pm me some contact info if you want the completed version of that click fixer. Stupid me seems to have a habit of trying to improve things that people don't want to be improved. :p
:)
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 03 2009 04:42 GMT
#107
Just pointing this out... LRM team used to use this to train for clanwars. So, it's been done before.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Eggplant
Profile Joined June 2009
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 04:57:23
September 03 2009 04:44 GMT
#108
That sounds fantastic. I guess I shouldn't have to do this with a brown bag over my head anymore.
:)
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
September 03 2009 10:09 GMT
#109
I wouldnt consider this cheating since it can only be used in training or mutalaly agreed matches.
I tried it at 2x speed vs computer. it was kinda fun playing starcraft where everything instantly happens really fast

Its also a great program to try on other games or even java games on the internet.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 03 2009 13:26 GMT
#110
On September 03 2009 13:28 Eggplant wrote:
I am the OP. I just got banned. Lol.


Good thing he opened this thread before getting banned...
beep boop
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
September 04 2009 02:52 GMT
#111
I you use this with entropy2.0 AI you will have a decent challenge because the AI uses standard pushes. Not as good as a real player but you get strong by making your weakest link stronger, not your strongest link strongest. So if you are C- player like me and you have really bad mechanics the this is the best training for you. Dont believe me? i've never been able to pass the 3400 mark. So if this season i get to C or C+ i'll know that the training has paid the price.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
September 04 2009 03:39 GMT
#112
On September 03 2009 22:26 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 13:28 Eggplant wrote:
I am the OP. I just got banned. Lol.


Good thing he opened this thread before getting banned...


LMAO. Making an account when you are banned and then admitting it rofl
No no no no its not mine!
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 04 2009 04:33 GMT
#113
Yeah. As a clarification, before getting back onto topic, I already had Eggplant, then made wok, hoping to switch over permanently. Unfortunately, request to remove Eggplant was never honored until today, so I did have the 2nd account through which I made those posts. The 2nd account wasn't a response to the ban, nor was it a secret.

On topic: I really want to try this with entropy2.0. Standard computer pushes are hard enough at 2x. (Target firing against m&m with hydras or goons is seriously nontrivial!)

I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-04 04:46:28
September 04 2009 04:46 GMT
#114
On September 04 2009 13:33 wok wrote:
Yeah. As a clarification, before getting back onto topic, I already had Eggplant, then made wok, hoping to switch over permanently. Unfortunately, request to remove Eggplant was never honored until today, so I did have the 2nd account through which I made those posts. The 2nd account wasn't a response to the ban, nor was it a secret.

On topic: I really want to try this with entropy2.0. Standard computer pushes are hard enough at 2x. (Target firing against m&m with hydras or goons is seriously nontrivial!)


Entropy isn't really that much harder. Racine's rebel's is impossible though.
Kyomaru
Profile Joined September 2009
1 Post
September 04 2009 14:49 GMT
#115
On September 04 2009 13:46 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2009 13:33 wok wrote:
Yeah. As a clarification, before getting back onto topic, I already had Eggplant, then made wok, hoping to switch over permanently. Unfortunately, request to remove Eggplant was never honored until today, so I did have the 2nd account through which I made those posts. The 2nd account wasn't a response to the ban, nor was it a secret.

On topic: I really want to try this with entropy2.0. Standard computer pushes are hard enough at 2x. (Target firing against m&m with hydras or goons is seriously nontrivial!)


Entropy isn't really that much harder. Racine's rebel's is impossible though.

Really? I find that the computer rushes are super hard :|. Could you link me to that? Just want to see how much more impossible that is.
rAnDoMZerg
Profile Joined June 2009
Israel20 Posts
September 04 2009 15:14 GMT
#116
I have tried it... on 2x... CRAP... On the first try i thought wtf.. it is making me worse.. then i decided to play vs pc on normal speed... OMG it improves your EAPM a looooot and your decisions will be made more quicker... I had my best APM ever..

Though i think that the cons of this thing is that you only play against computers... who are so bad...

But still you can do the whatever build you want :D

I say everyone should try it... Also those who say it is cheating... HELL no its not! Why is it cheating? :O Cuz you are playing faster? EVERYONE can do it, and its not something vs another, its vs computers... xD

TRY IT! gl
Jaedong ftw
genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-04 17:43:13
September 04 2009 17:39 GMT
#117
I think this is a good way to improve your reflex.

I have tried it on 1.5x, after 10 games, I change it back to default, and I,m starting to look at everything in slow motion now, never before in my life I have witness vultures with Ion Upgrade moved soo freakin slow.
I, Challenge Everything
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-04 17:46:24
September 04 2009 17:42 GMT
#118
Does this work for multiplayer if all the players have 2x speed on?

Edit: Just tried it. It works
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genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
September 04 2009 17:45 GMT
#119
Does this work for multiplayer if all the players have 2x speed on?


Yup, though I,m pretty sure you must turn off antihack first. Its ok if you want to play it on LAN with friends, but I dont recommend you tried it on ICCUP.
I, Challenge Everything
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-04 17:50:38
September 04 2009 17:49 GMT
#120
Anyone want to 1v1 with 2x speed on East? Preferably with chaos and within D+ ~ C range

whisper me- AnyTime[gm]@USEast
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