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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
Less random no-names in tournaments I guess | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:42 AzureEye wrote: I hate the breaking up of BO5 but I love the idea of giving free MST access to highest Kespa ranking players Less random no-names in tournaments I guess Every "highest KeSPA ranking player" was once a "random no-name". This rule change punishes up-and-coming talent - younger, generally more motivated and skilled players - thereby killing game quality. And let me say something about splitting up BoX series: it's fucking awful. Separating the conclusion of a series from its beginning by enough practice days for a player to a) adjust to a certain strategy or style and b) re-compose himself punishes innovative players and mentally tough players and decreases the utility of exciting new builds and playstyles immensely. Imagine if GGPlay had had a week to react to Fantasy's mech build in the middle of their OSL Ro4 series - Fantasy may not have even been able to win one Bo5 on a build that revolutionized the Terran versus Zerg matchup. The MSL's organizers may feel that separating series increases suspense - it may, but at the expense of every exciting series-long storyline. A comeback is much less exciting if it occurs across two days of play separated by a week of downtime (is it even a comeback?), and a sweep is much less of a statement if its last wins are delayed. Basically, splitting BoX series is bad for innovation (bad for gamers) and bad for drama (bad for fans). When the series is Bo3, both of these effects are limited enough to be tolerable (and it's less likely a player will prepare an earth-shattering strategy for a Bo3 series, for example) but across a Bo5 series - the ultimate test in professional SC - this split will be just awful. I'm really disappointed in the MSL for making this format change in particular. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:41 p4NDemik wrote: You say this now, but don't come complaining when a slumping veteran (I'm looking at you sAviOr) plays like absolute refuse in the next MST and basically wastes a spot that could have been used by an upstart youngster who actually has refreshing/interesting play. This move stinks so badly they're going to have to pass out respirators at the next MST. Any time some organization takes important decisions out of the hands of the players it is a bad day for the game/sport/whatever. Consider how many people would prefer to watch old schoolers like Nada/Savior/Boxer/Oov/etc. etc. etc. over "young upstarts", myself included, I'm thinking MBC is making the right decision. I'm not saying this is fair or right, I'm just saying it would lead to more of the people I'd like to watch on TV. | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:45 JWD wrote: Every "highest KeSPA ranking player" was once a "random no-name". This rule change punishes up-and-coming talent - younger, generally more motivated and skilled players - thereby killing game quality. True but I'd rather see a no-name talented young player make a big upset on Proleagues than in MSL where the favorite player is eliminated. | ||
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Marine50
Australia1764 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:47 baubo wrote: Consider how many people would prefer to watch old schoolers like Nada/Savior/Boxer/Oov/etc. etc. etc. over "young upstarts", myself included, I'm thinking MBC is making the right decision. I'm not saying this is fair or right, I'm just saying it would lead to more of the people I'd like to watch on TV. I'd love to see XellOs out there, but I live with not seeing him because I know the quality of his games would be absolutely horrid compared to a younger player. The determining factor when talking about making these kind of changes should be game quality, not attempting to give undeserving vets a free ride. You're right, this will get them better ratings for the MST. But they're selling out and there's no way around it. | ||
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:33 baubo wrote: Meh, looks cool to me.Hey, whatever they feel can make money. And after all, people do want to see stars. Why not give them a free pass into the MST. The schedule change implies that apparently, no one wants to watch the same people over and over. So the entire plan is to have more people appear on TV on any given night. I like it, mainly because this favors Khan players who seem to be better when given preparation. Good calls on both points. I think both of those changes will boost ratings for next season, but if these rules seem to hokey it might damage the prestige of the MSL, and thus hurt their long-term business. | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
Also, splitting up BO5's changes the quality and mentality of the first game a lot - it's not so bad. The semis and finals will still be on one day.... | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
Also, the format is so confusing now. | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
no more epic series like Jaedong vs. Flash, FBH vs. Savior, or Kal vs. forGG at least not in the same sense | ||
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
The Kespa ranking stuff seems pretty interesting, however I'm not sure how I feel about it yet... | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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Jonteman
Sweden644 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
here's the highest current kespa ranked players for each team, tell me you aren't in favor of seeing their overall consistency rewarded in some way when much of the time the offlines are so unpredictable KTF: Luxury (don't pretend this guy doesn't get his shit together real fast, he's always been very on and off) SKT T1: Bisu Oz: Jaedong Samsung: Stork (double 5pool anyone?) Sparkyz: Leta Stars: Zero Soul: Hwasin estro: UPMAGIC, COME ON GUYS UPMAGIC MBC: light and sea at various times, usually sea but it's light right now Fox: Mind CJ: Iris AIR FORCE ACE: ANYTIME you don't want a player list like this to be a GUARANTEED SEED in the round of 32? WHY? | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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