• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:02
CEST 20:02
KST 03:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced58
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Bitcoin discussion thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 767 users

MSL Re-organization

Forum Index > BW General
124 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 05:27:46
May 29 2009 05:17 GMT
#1
Ro32
1.) Ro32 will adopt the format of MST which is first two games and the winners' game are separated from the losers' game and the final game of each group.

2.) Players who score 0-2 in Ro32 will drop directly to Internet cafe preliminary next season.

3.) Spots of MST from Internet cafe preliminary will cut from 24 to 20.

4.) The player with the highest KeSPA ranking of each team will get a free access to MST. (If the No.1 player of a team has already made into MST or MSL, I guess the No.2 player will take the spot.)

Ro8
1.) Ro8 bo5 games will be separated into two parts as well. e.g.

Match day 1
A vs. B game 1
C vs. D game 1
E vs. F game 1
G vs. H game 1

Match day 2
A vs. B game 2~5
C vs. D game 2~5

Match day 3
E vs. F game 2~5
G vs. H game 2~5

2.) The matchup of Ro8 will be decided by KeSPA rankings, e.g. No.1 vs No.8, No.2 vs No.7 etc.

Source: Fomos


I'd say....these are really really weird changes. KeSPA go hell! I hate the idea of cutting preliminary spots and giving free MST access. New players have less chances.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
May 29 2009 05:19 GMT
#2
Furthering the ideal that OSL is the more formal of the 2.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
May 29 2009 05:19 GMT
#3
MSL changes its system like every other tournament.
I will eat you alive
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
May 29 2009 05:20 GMT
#4
way to weird things even more, mbc.
Commentator
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 29 2009 05:20 GMT
#5
Splitting up bo5s is one of the worst ideas I've seen in a while. This makes no sense at all.
GANDHISAUCE
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
May 29 2009 05:21 GMT
#6
Furthering the ideal that OSL is the more formal of the 2.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
May 29 2009 05:21 GMT
#7
sounds like complicating stuff for no reason
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
May 29 2009 05:22 GMT
#8
On May 29 2009 14:17 Emlary wrote:
4.) The player with the highest KeSPA ranking of each team will get a free access to MST. (If the No.1 player of a team has already made into MST or MSL, I guess the No.2 player will take the spot.).

I like this one.
Initial_H.C.
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada560 Posts
May 29 2009 05:25 GMT
#9
Splitting the Ro8 Bo5 into two parts is silly
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 29 2009 05:25 GMT
#10
What is this crap? Seriously? Each team gets one free MST spot? Make them earn it.

Part of what makes championships special is knowing players had to endure the gauntlet that is the Offline Prelims. Take Luxury for example: he went from the Prelims all the way up to MSL champion. This is just some absolute garbage attempt to make KeSPA ranking relevant. Fuck that. This isn't American College Football and the BCS.
Moderator
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
May 29 2009 05:25 GMT
#11
WTF... game 1 on 1 day, then 2-5 on another? Why the fuck not have 5 games on a day instead of just 4?

I guess they're trying to avoid having the big finale of the series be just 1 game (if they did game 1/2 first and then 3-5), but.... 2-5 is just WTF
aka Moletrap
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
May 29 2009 05:28 GMT
#12
i initially resented the osl's decision to scrap the ODT/OSC and integrate them into the OSL (and subseqeuently the ro36 format), but now I like it (they changed it because it made following the OSL easier or something).

this though, i don't think i'll ever like.
Commentator
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
May 29 2009 05:31 GMT
#13
p4nDemik pretty much summed up my thoughts.

Thanks for the news.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 29 2009 05:32 GMT
#14
1. Meh, I prefer the old format, but not a huge difference

2. I think this is too harsh

3. okay

4. whaaaaat?! really?! What a terrible idea, especially if the byes rollover to the next person

New Ro8: what. Why?! argh. I liked the old MSL format, this is garbage.
Liquipedia
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 05:36:04
May 29 2009 05:33 GMT
#15
Meh, looks cool to me.Hey, whatever they feel can make money. And after all, people do want to see stars. Why not give them a free pass into the MST.

The schedule change implies that apparently, no one wants to watch the same people over and over. So the entire plan is to have more people appear on TV on any given night. I like it, mainly because this favors Khan players who seem to be better when given preparation.
Meh
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
May 29 2009 05:34 GMT
#16
I guess we'll see what 4 does as a couple seasons pass, but I have a feeling it's gonna get scrapped after only one...

At least we'll see an ACE person in MSL
TranslatorBaa!
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
May 29 2009 05:35 GMT
#17
Just do well in PL and OSL then you will get a free MSL ticket

Btw, the new MSL opening is on the way. Some random pictures from the shooting scenario.

[image loading]


[image loading]
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 05:38:35
May 29 2009 05:36 GMT
#18
fuck...splitting up Bo5s now????????

uyghhhhhhh

and wait...round of EIGHT matches are determined by KeSPA rank? That means there will be no bracket........
✌
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
May 29 2009 05:38 GMT
#19
this is ugly and terrible

i hate the mst format and was hoping they wouldnt do it for the actual msl
im gay
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 29 2009 05:41 GMT
#20
On May 29 2009 14:33 baubo wrote:
Meh, looks cool to me.Hey, whatever they feel can make money. And after all, people do want to see stars. Why not give them a free pass into the MST.

You say this now, but don't come complaining when a slumping veteran (I'm looking at you sAviOr) plays like absolute refuse in the next MST and basically wastes a spot that could have been used by an upstart youngster who actually has refreshing/interesting play. This move stinks so badly they're going to have to pass out respirators at the next MST. Any time some organization takes important decisions out of the hands of the players it is a bad day for the game/sport/whatever.
Moderator
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
15:00
Open Qualifier #2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 238
BRAT_OK 168
Hui .110
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3750
Rain 2608
Shuttle 1463
Mini 775
EffOrt 706
Horang2 601
firebathero 443
Soulkey 249
Mong 239
ggaemo 179
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 115
Barracks 103
TY 87
hero 86
sas.Sziky 54
scan(afreeca) 39
Killer 30
JYJ25
Yoon 13
Stormgate
TKL 188
Dota 2
Gorgc7230
qojqva3801
Dendi1642
League of Legends
Reynor108
Counter-Strike
fl0m2904
flusha351
kRYSTAL_59
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox502
Other Games
B2W.Neo399
Lowko377
KnowMe328
Fuzer 90
Trikslyr63
QueenE42
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta40
• Hinosc 17
• Dystopia_ 10
• Reevou 5
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3264
• masondota2844
League of Legends
• Nemesis4800
• TFBlade1132
Other Games
• imaqtpie986
• Shiphtur238
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
5h 58m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
16h 58m
Stormgate Nexus
19h 58m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
21h 58m
The PondCast
1d 15h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.