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United States5457 Posts
Match day 2 A vs. B game 2~5 C vs. D game 2~5 good news, we can see 8 games a day. bad news 1, we might also see 8 fucking horrible games a day. bad news 2, MSL is once a week now.? (I just dont like it when there is a hole in the week, except like final matches) so ya, imo; this shit is bad. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On May 29 2009 22:59 Hot_Bid wrote: Splitting up Bo5 = stupid. We won't have any more cool moments like Fantasy build or players choking or whatever. Instead we'll have one game, then four games? A Bo5 all at once is the most dramatic, most accurate display of player skill as we know it. You are forced to think, adapt, and withstand tremendous pressure. This last OSL Final, the awesome Fantasy-Jaedong, wouldn't have been nearly as great had it been 1 game then 4 games. First of all, this is a Ro8 thing only. Also, you can look on the flip side. Bo5 all in one day can produce craptacular stuff. Imagine a quick, one-sided 3-0 of ZvZ(Jaedong by.hero?), or a 5 game long TvT that lasts for 5 hours(thank god this hasn't happened in a while). This sort of stuff doesn't make for good television to the general viewers. By spliting things up, MBC can make sure that each day's schedule is somewhat balanced so there's variety. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
splitting up bo5's gives better games imo. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
The split bo5 is only in the ro8. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. Also, its not like the OSL doesnt have their bo3 split in 2 days. Thats basically the same idea but guess what, YOU GET MORE FUCKING GAMES. Its not like every bo5 is epic anyway. Ro8 bo5s usually suck balls specially the way they are setting the ro8 brackets now where higher kespa ranked would not be facing each other. I also think giving a team 1 free pass for MST is a good thing, fakesteve said it well. Also take note the the current change in the MST went out well. I personally liked it better than the old format. More people playing in a day instead of the same face raping the same face. This will be a good change to the ro32 too. Seriously guys, I think you are just bitching because it is the MSL. If this were the OSL you would be like, OMG OSL RULES. nonesense. | ||
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
On May 30 2009 10:13 sk` wrote: Nothing we can do to change this, but it is bad for the sport. Having that unknown person being able to go from 0 to champion makes it exciting. If that "unknown person" is really good. He will be champion regardless of what the format is. Seriously guys, you are even going way out of topic. There are still offliners. There are 20 MST spots. Subtract 12 coz of Team seeds. You get 8 spots free. THAT IS ENOUGH SPOTS FOR GOOD UP AND COMING PLAYERS. Do you seriously want to see players like zergbong(this hurts me, im a fan), hyuk, s2, juni and etc. to be in the MST?? | ||
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DennizR
Sweden653 Posts
Free access for higher ranked players is a good thing, I also like matchups decided on rankings instead of randomness. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
As for the new ranking stuff: We all like seeing stars play, but this is not exactly going to help things for the new guys. The top-ranked KeSPA players on any team aren't going to be new. Taking xprogamer's chances of making the MST from 24 spots to 8 is a huge leap in difficulty. I suppose that means the ones who make it through will actually be good, but I prefer to see more new up-and-comers rather than the same 15 "Yes we know these guys are good" all the time. But that's not the big problem. Who does it really hurt? It hurts the secondary stars. Take a team like KHAN and let's pretend Stork and Jangbi aren't already seeded (who knows, they might not be next time around). Let's say Jangbi has a higher KeSPA ranking. He gets the free spot, but Stork has to play all the way through offlines. How does this make sense in any way, shape, or form? | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
Splitting it up cripples the intensity and mindgames involved D: | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13154 Posts
Kinda seems dumb to me and will dilute the playing pool skill a bit. | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
But to be serious this isn't too surprising to me at least, considering how they run Music Core compared to other traditional shows. And yeah Kinky I wonder the same thing... minus the screw KeSPA part... maybe ^^ Music Core's on btw... and this show's gonna be boring as heck -_- | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On May 30 2009 10:08 iLoveKTF wrote: PEOPLE LISTEN. The split bo5 is only in the ro8. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. Sorry, but this is the dumbest thing I've read on TL today (and believe me that is saying something). + Show Spoiler [hint] + Jaedong-Fantasy was just an example of an epic Bo5 that would not have been nearly as epic if it was split. We mentioned it to illustrate how splitting Bo5s could preclude drama and excitement, not to suggest that if Fantasy and Jaedong met in the Finals of a MSL their series would be split. Jesus, why didn't you take this pathetically flawed argument one step further and just say The split bo5 is only in the MSL. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. or The split bo5 is only in future tournaments. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. or, even better, The split bo5 is only in tournaments that are not the Batoo OSL. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
lol. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
On May 30 2009 16:48 JWD wrote: Sorry, but this is the dumbest thing I've read on TL today (and believe me that is saying something). + Show Spoiler [hint] + Jaedong-Fantasy was just an example of an epic Bo5 that would not have been nearly as epic if it was split. We mentioned it to illustrate how splitting Bo5s could preclude drama and excitement, not to suggest that if Fantasy and Jaedong met in the Finals of a MSL their series would be split. Jesus, why didn't you take this pathetically flawed argument one step further and just say The split bo5 is only in the MSL. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. or The split bo5 is only in future tournaments. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. or, even better, The split bo5 is only in tournaments that are not the Batoo OSL. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. That is not even the point of what I was saying. My point was epic Bo5's in ro8 are very rare, like 1 of every 4 series every MSL. Specially now that the way ro8 bracketing will be done would make it a very good player vs a decent one. Point: Its the ro8 ffs. Nobody remembers the ro8 except if it involved a really epic game and a legend (jangbi vs nada). Also, the new ro8 style is 1 game this day and 4 games the next day. That barely removes any "drama and excitement" because you get to play 4 games in the 2nd day anyway. If you think there is too much drama lost in a bo5 where 1 game was played on a different day then you must be an overly dramatic person. Stop watching WWE. edit: lol i reread your post and I realized I was pathetic to reply to it coz you didnt actually make any sense. But I understand, t1 fanboy + a t1 player being mentioned = broken fanboy heart. | ||
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roronoe
Canada1527 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:25 p4NDemik wrote: What is this crap? Seriously? Each team gets one free MST spot? Make them earn it. Part of what makes championships special is knowing players had to endure the gauntlet that is the Offline Prelims. Take Luxury for example: he went from the Prelims all the way up to MSL champion. This is just some absolute garbage attempt to make KeSPA ranking relevant. Fuck that. This isn't American College Football and the BCS. quoted for truth | ||
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