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On May 30 2009 10:14 iLoveKTF wrote:
THAT IS ENOUGH SPOTS FOR GOOD UP AND COMING PLAYERS. Do you seriously want to see players like zergbong(this hurts me, im a fan), hyuk, s2, juni and etc. to be in the MST??
yes, juni plays a really entertaining style 
one thing im really scared of is if the OSL adopts some of these lame changes
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On May 30 2009 17:10 PH wrote:
OSL has split up bo5's and even bo3's that way for at least the last three tournaments...why complain now?
lol. OSL has never split up bo5s and many people have voiced their complaints regarding OGN's split bo3s in Ro8 as well...
On May 30 2009 18:15 iLoveKTF wrote:
edit: lol i reread your post and I realized I was pathetic to reply to it coz you didnt actually make any sense. But I understand, t1 fanboy + a t1 player being mentioned = broken fanboy heart.
Dont troll, it has nothing to do with T1. It would be the same if it were Flash vs Jaedong or w/e else.
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United States3705 Posts
maybe it's cuz i just woke up, but i just realized that means that there will always be at least 1 ACE player in the MSL now
good yes?
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God I hate split up bo's, let's hold boxing tournaments as well were we cut off in the middle of the rounds and have the other rounds next week, sigh. Way to gay up the ro8 MSL. I suppose this is because they want to have multiple races/match ups on the same day to make it more diverse or something? No thanks.
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I wonder how this will effect Jaedongs lose the 1st game strategy...
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Does anyone know at which date the Group Selection will be?
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So ACE gets a player in MSL now?
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So ACE gets a player in MST now?
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Kespa Fails. That is all.
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Whats up with not having a braket for the round of 8? This is getting to be as bad a college football and its broken system for choosing who plays in what games.
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Dick move! Lol.
This all sucks major ass.
EDIT: If KeSPA wants to seed something by their ranks, fine. Do it at the Round of 16 when the bracket starts. Don't do it in the Round of 8 you dolts.
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split matches? wtf -_-
also this rule is IMBA:
"The player with the highest KeSPA ranking of each team will get a free access to MST. (If the No.1 player of a team has already made into MST or MSL, I guess the No.2 player will take the spot.)"
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On May 30 2009 10:08 iLoveKTF wrote:
PEOPLE LISTEN.
The split bo5 is only in the ro8. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. Also, its not like the OSL doesnt have their bo3 split in 2 days. Thats basically the same idea but guess what, YOU GET MORE FUCKING GAMES. Its not like every bo5 is epic anyway. Ro8 bo5s usually suck balls specially the way they are setting the ro8 brackets now where higher kespa ranked would not be facing each other. I also think giving a team 1 free pass for MST is a good thing, fakesteve said it well.
Also take note the the current change in the MST went out well. I personally liked it better than the old format. More people playing in a day instead of the same face raping the same face. This will be a good change to the ro32 too.
Seriously guys, I think you are just bitching because it is the MSL. If this were the OSL you would be like, OMG OSL RULES.
nonesense.
"The split bo5 is only in the ro8. So the, "OMG NO MORE EPIC JAEDONG-FANTASY BULLSHIT" argument is not valid. " Erm, the point of that is that a 0-2 to 3-2 comeback is not nearly as exciting over a week. The finals point is null, but the excitement will go down.
"YOU GET MORE FUCKING GAMES." No you don't.
"Ro8 bo5s usually suck balls specially the way they are setting the ro8 brackets now where higher kespa ranked would not be facing each other. I also think giving a team 1 free pass for MST is a good thing, fakesteve said it well." Free passes are into the MST, Bo5's start at the Ro8, so this is pointless.
No one likes the weird way the Bo3's are set up in the OSL either.
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They're doing this for ratings. Normally, a bo5 between two no-names could ruin a day's ratings and advertising revenues. But if Sangho vs Violet is followed up by Jaedong vs Flash, I'll tune in that day.
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Guys I just realized:
BeSt can finally make an MSL!!!! 
Still sucks imo.
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i do disagree with the bo5 series gets cut in two. the aspect of concentration stamina gets somewhat destroyed and its always more fun to watch a whole match than watching it in pieces.
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Finally the KeSPa ranking means something! What was the point of it before anyway ? The best thing would always be to form the brackets for the tournament only based on KeSPa ranking, like in tennis. Then you will have bisu and JD on the opposite side of the draw with the only chance to meet in the Finals. If MBC decides to keep to this concept, the group selection will be just a formality without its current drama, but such bullshit like Flash/JD/Hwasin/FBH group and JangBi/Bisu/Kal/free will never going to happen.
The current system is rigged as hell, players have been picking their opponents on personal matter for years now (oov autopick nada, nal_ra boxer etc). The tournament suffers from this so much, if they make things more KeSPa rank orientated such a joke champions like Luxury will almost never happened and anyway, what kind of prestigeous tournament is this, when because of the fucking group selection system the 4 players in the world are nowhere to be seen in the Ro16. Those must be tolerated and never given the opportunity to face each other in "no-one-gives-a-fuck-about" Bo1 in the group stages
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United States13896 Posts
Looks like MBC finally decided these changes were idiotic:
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=105092&db=issue
In short, they're reverting back to the old format (in most respects): Preliminaries will go back to being 24 groups (not 20), places 9-32 from previous MSL all go to MST again (not 9-24), and the #1 KeSPA rated player on each team does NOT get a free pass any more.
Hallelujah.
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woot woot !thanks for the update
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