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Kerotan
England2111 Posts
On March 22 2009 00:26 fanatacist wrote: Oh, I wasn't continuing your analogy at all. I am not defending the concept of cheesy play being gay and amoral. I was just saying that kicking someone in the nuts is gay as hell. Oh cool, I can shut up then. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
And stop flaming Idra's play, everybody started flaming Idra after the beating he took from F91, just remember F91 almost took out stork in a best of 3 when stork was on top of his game, there is a huge gap in skill between F91 and Idra base on their achievement. There is no shame in losing to F91, you guys should praise him for taking 2 games from F91 instead. | ||
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I3oxerfan
215 Posts
Yeah, I know. ^^ No, but seriously IdrA. You played bad. You had a huge advantage in the beginning and you allowed Strelok to come back. And in the end you lost really badly. No offense. Strelok may was not even the better player, but you allowed him to come back and lost the game. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
That is why people should be allowed to critisize idra.. His mouth. People in proleagues who lose because of poor play, but keep their mouth shut, its hard to critisize them because even though we could tell what they did wrong in the game, at least they probably realize how they messed up also, and it was one of those under-pressure moments on TV, or they just aren't at the level of the Flash's and Bisus yet.. Idra, any sign of a loss and he just goes "OMG YOU CHEATED, THAT STRAT WAS FROM 3 YEARS AGO! NOT FAIR!", He never takes resposibility for his loss, which is why we can pick him apart. If he didnt talk shit, and lost to strelok and f91 and all these players, No one would care and they would just say GG, try better nexttime. btw, Anyone else but me think it would be SUPER entertaining to see Idra vs FBH on a TV match, Idra getting owned and then FBH doing one of those epic celebration dances right in his face?? I think justice would be served then. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:33 I3oxerfan wrote: Yeah, I know. ^^ No, but seriously IdrA. You played bad. You had a huge advantage in the beginning and you allowed Strelok to come back. And in the end you lost really badly. No offense. Strelok may was not even the better player, but you allowed him to come back and lost the game. the builds brought him back into it, his mines negated my tank/marines which made up for the 4-5 supply advantage of the failed 6 rax. i was the one who spent most of the game coming back. you'll notice i was down 20 supply and a base after i cleared his wraiths. it ended up equal supply and equal bases. | ||
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Myrkskog
Canada481 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:32 rei wrote: It is not a big deal, Idra just can't control his emotion well yet, he will grow out of it. People who take any opportunity to flame Idra are just as immature. Lol this is just pure crap talk. If you get upset from losing you don't take your time to make up excuses and bad-mouthing your opponent before leaving, you swallow your anger and type gg and then press F10ESQ in a millisec. What idra is doing belongs in kindergarden, he is what 19-20+ years and hasn't learned to be A BIT mannered yet? I also get really pissed sometimes when I lose but instead of ruining my own (and my clans) image by badmannering I tend to scream FUCK in RL or close down starcraft, get some fresh air or win some money in poker. I don't think he will grow out if it, in fact I hope he doesn't grow out of it - then one day some guy in high office will get tired of him and send him home where he belongs in the US. Flaming flamers is not immature, it's like giving the finger to a mirror - you will get one back. idra for anger management? idra for psychiatric treatment? | ||
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I3oxerfan
215 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:39 IdrA wrote: the builds brought him back into it, his mines negated my tank/marines which made up for the 4-5 supply advantage of the failed 6 rax. i was the one who spent most of the game coming back. you'll notice i was down 20 supply and a base after i cleared his wraiths. it ended up equal supply and equal bases. Yeah, but I noticed that you had a HUGE advantage in the beginning too. | ||
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QuoC
United States724 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:21 floor exercise wrote: I lie in wait, biding my time. Finally I see my opening, a lull in the action, with my progamer level hand speed, my mouse is released from my sweaty clutches, my middle finger depresses the return key as my hands find the homerow on my keyboard in one fluid motion, I release my assault on my opponent at over 120 wpm, "you skilless newbie faggot" appears on my opponents screen, my bony fingers deftlessly found their keys with the rapidity of a chickens beak pecking at morsels of corn. My opponents reactions are as if he was playing in a vat of molasses, I give him no quarter, no possible chance to come back from my game ending blow. Before his inferior mind can even process what has occurred and he can respond, the victory box appears on his screen, denying him any hopes of retaliation. The day is won. I lean back in my chair, crack my knuckles, and prepare myself for another day of doing laundry for the real pros. LOL although that was pretty funny, you're also a douche that no one gives a fuck about so that makes it even more funny. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:39 Skyze wrote: The reason I think its ok to critisize idra is because it seems every game vs any foreigner, he is always like "Theres no way they can win, the Koreans I play against are 3 years ahead of them, they are not good enough to even be in Korea like me" and stuff like that.. then he gets totally OWNED and says" omg you cheated, you didnt do the standard korea 3hatch muta" or something.. Everytime, like Strelok, didnt he say something like Strelok was a shitty terran.. and then he gets owned and says he got lucky (after being SO far ahead in the game and still lost in a MIRROR?) That is why people should be allowed to critisize idra.. His mouth. People in proleagues who lose because of poor play, but keep their mouth shut, its hard to critisize them because even though we could tell what they did wrong in the game, at least they probably realize how they messed up also, and it was one of those under-pressure moments on TV, or they just aren't at the level of the Flash's and Bisus yet.. Idra, any sign of a loss and he just goes "OMG YOU CHEATED, THAT STRAT WAS FROM 3 YEARS AGO! NOT FAIR!", He never takes resposibility for his loss, which is why we can pick him apart. If he didnt talk shit, and lost to strelok and f91 and all these players, No one would care and they would just say GG, try better nexttime. btw, Anyone else but me think it would be SUPER entertaining to see Idra vs FBH on a TV match, Idra getting owned and then FBH doing one of those epic celebration dances right in his face?? I think justice would be served then. Unfortunately his manner in the game has nothing to do with discussing his strategic/tactical choices, so basically what you're saying is "becuz he makes an excuse and says koreans r betr than foren pros, we can b dooshes to him LOL." | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:43 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: I don't think he will grow out if it, in fact I hope he doesn't grow out of it - then one day some guy in high office will get tired of him and send him home where he belongs in the US. Flaming flamers is not immature, it's like giving the finger to a mirror - you will get one back. idra for anger management? idra for psychiatric treatment? Idra is not stupid, he's able to think logically when he's cool, those are evidences which suggest he will grow out of it. Flaming accomplishes nothing constructive(if you don't agree with that then we have nothing to discuss), I argue that flaming itself is an immature act that accomplish nothing constructive. Therefore Flaming flamer is just as immature as the flamer himself. oh by the way Idra didn't give the finger to you, nor any other flamers, he gave it to Strelok, and strelok didn't give one back(mature). What is your excuses to give idra the finger(immature)? | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
Anyway, a backstage FBH vs IdrA can be entertaint | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:59 rei wrote: What is your excuses to give idra the finger(immature)? When he fingers Strelok, F91 or whoever it may be it does not only affect them but the entire community. Now if he is the only foregin "progamer" in korea wouldn't it be good if that person was respected within his own community and being a good mannered person ingame as well as outside? If he is so dumb he pretty much hands over our middlefingers to himself. | ||
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BunkerPush
United States107 Posts
On March 21 2009 21:26 IdrA wrote: what are you babbling about i went 2 fac and moved to attack, mismicroed and lost the brunt of the attack to mines, his minefield meant i couldnt use my tank and the defender has an advantage in vulture vs vulture, so the proper decision was to sit on my econ advantage and wear him down in a macro game, especially given that macro is my strength and his weakness. i lost the game because i missed the obvious that he was going wraith, and was at a 1 base and 20something supply disadvantage for the rest of the game, and still brought it back to even. he wasnt mining on his last attack. i deserve shit for flaming him, but seriously dont even try to talk about the game if you're that clueless. Mclovin's excuse for not going into the liquor store the first time "but seriously dont even try to talk about the game if you're that clueless ASSFACE" LOOOOOOOOOOL | ||
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pokerface
507 Posts
On March 21 2009 11:36 fearus wrote: LoL the phil helmuth of sc Ahm ye,given the fact that phil has won the most title in the world and idra is losing here and there against foreigners.... nice semblance | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:56 fanatacist wrote: Unfortunately his manner in the game has nothing to do with discussing his strategic/tactical choices, so basically what you're saying is "becuz he makes an excuse and says koreans r betr than foren pros, we can b dooshes to him LOL." Yes. Because he makes excuses and acts like an idiot, he deserves to get shit on. His lack of game-sense and overall lack of BW skill, is one thing, but we aren't picking on him for that, we are picking on him because of his bad manner. It just makes it more sweet that he gets so far ahead in a TvT, and STILL cant win vs "an inferior foreigner".. I repeat, if this was someone like Nony or Strelok, who might not be as good as the Bisu's and Flash's that we watch everyday, so we can clearly see their mistakes when watching Nony/Strelok, we wouldnt talk about them in a bad sense because they are MANNERED and dont make excuses for their loss, but rather they learn from their losses and respect all opponents, even if they aren't in korea. Idra just badmouths everyone and thinks hes so superior due to living in Korea, yet he has never been able to beat any foreigner in any showmatch since living in Korea to back up his big mouth. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On March 22 2009 02:26 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: When he fingers Strelok, F91 or whoever it may be it does not only affect them but the entire community. Now if he is the only foregin "progamer" in korea wouldn't it be good if that person was respected within his own community and being a good mannered person ingame as well as outside? If he is so dumb he pretty much hands over our middlefingers to himself. I totally agree with you that Idra should set an example of good manner, in which he will be able to better represent the foreigner community in Korea, as well as respect from this community that had been behind him the entire time. However, flaming will not help him mature faster. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On March 22 2009 00:51 IdrA wrote: in most cases thats true, however here i was significantly behind and he had light harass openings all blocked off, and he was constantly attacking. this made it a better choice to sit and absorb his attacks and wait for a hole to open up, and it did after he blew units on that center attack, it let me siege his last expo at 3. it worked, just not quite well enough. most of his harass and attacks didnt do much and in the end he wasnt mining, i just lost too many units defending the drop at 6 to hold off his last ditch attack. had i gone on the offensive he just woulda crushed it with superior unit count, especially given that i couldnt really afford dropships when i could barely afford units as is. Yes, you were behind after being ahead. Let's not forget the guy had to cancel his ridiculously early proxy barracks. Honestly, your factory after the second supply looked like a bit of hesitation. Neither black, nor white. I wanna see Idra who decides to crush his opponent after seeing his early risk fail. The game was in your hands at that point. If you were to play again, I wanna see you put that factory before the supply and follow up quickly with another one. Or a quick starport with wraith harass. Or put a CC right after he cancels the barracks and play defensively. Put a fire under his ass and make him suffer every second for being behind in tech. IMO, all you need Idra, is a small change of perspective to be much more successful. Put all the labels aside. Realize that game theory is just that - theory. Sometimes it seems you get lost in the labels and you can't play the game. Put all the 3hats, 2hats, FEs, Allin players, bad players.. put it aside and play the game. Just go and win. Also, that thing iloveoov once said "Start every game with a mindset to turn it into a rape." | ||
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MuR)Ernu
Finland768 Posts
On March 22 2009 01:43 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Lol this is just pure crap talk. If you get upset from losing you don't take your time to make up excuses and bad-mouthing your opponent before leaving, you swallow your anger and type gg and then press F10ESQ in a millisec. What idra is doing belongs in kindergarden, he is what 19-20+ years and hasn't learned to be A BIT mannered yet? I also get really pissed sometimes when I lose but instead of ruining my own (and my clans) image by badmannering I tend to scream FUCK in RL or close down starcraft, get some fresh air or win some money in poker. I don't think he will grow out if it, in fact I hope he doesn't grow out of it - then one day some guy in high office will get tired of him and send him home where he belongs in the US. Flaming flamers is not immature, it's like giving the finger to a mirror - you will get one back. idra for anger management? idra for psychiatric treatment? I'd like to remind you. THIS IS THE INTERNET. It doesn't mean that if he is playing in a lan, he will go and scream red faced to the front of the other guy if he loses or something. | ||
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