• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:34
CEST 23:34
KST 06:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 224ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Jakie ligi piłkarskie śledzicie regularnie? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5807 users

Idra vs Strelok-Great Game And Fun!

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 16 17 18 Next All
Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 16:54:30
March 21 2009 01:23 GMT
#1
For the real fun of seeing IdrA's attitude-in-need-of-adjustment, scroll down to near the end (or Ctrl+F "Manner Bear"), although I certainly encourage you to read my report of the game first!
Comments (about the report, although you can comment on IdrA too if you want, I won't ban you from my blog) are most welcome!

Hi guys!
It's me again, although most of you probably don't remember me, I decided to write a battlereport of CJ_Idra vs 3D.Strelok. Note that this contains spoilers of Broodsport/Liquibition of Strelok vs F91. If you somehow have not seen those and do not want to be spoiled (then my congratulations to you for somehow avoiding it while still reading TL...), then do not read this.

(T)(us)IdrA vs (T)(ua)Strelok @ Chupung-Ryeong

The Replay
Anyway, the replay is hosted on GosuGamers.net and at repdepot. I won't tell you how to find it because I'm not supposed to link to IdrA replays. I'm sure you can find it yourself at gosugamers.net's starcraft replay section, it's not that hard.

The Map
Twelve professional TvTs have been played on Chupung-Ryeong, but I can't say much interesting about the balance of the map as it's TvT! I'm not a good enough player to be able to say whether the 1 or the 7 position have an appreciable advantage against the other in TvT.

The Situation
Strelok and Idra... two of the top foreigner Terrans. Interestingly enough, they both played and lost TvZ vs F91 recently. Strelok lost 2-5 in games, and Idra lost 2-5 in games! Strelok is known for having a strong TvT, while Idra's TvT is lesser-known. However, with the map being Chupung-Ryeong and Idra having professional level practice partners, that historical TvT imbalance would seem to be minimized.
IdrA lacks the respect for Strelok that Strelok has for him, however, so it will be a game that IdrA definitely does not want to lose!
[image loading]

The Game
Idra lands his teal Command Center at the 7 o'clock position, while Strelok speedily builds his red one at the 1. Note: Idra was actually yellow and Strelok was orange. This makes for bad screenshots! I've used ally colours so that's why they are those colors. Through use of slavic speed, Strelok rapidly siezes the advantage by building his SCV .00001 seconds faster!

[image loading]

[image loading]

Idra; Strelok. Green vs Red--a contest to determine the best Christmas colour!

IdrA begins my mining minerals with his SCVs, whereas Strelok begins mining minerals with his SCVs and doing a standard build scouting with one of his first four SCVs (what!?).
[image loading]

Strelok attempts some sort of cheese? Time shall tell!

Strelok makes a Barracks on 6 supply below/right of IdrA's natural. Idra, meanwhile, is at 8/10 supply with his 8th SCV about to finish.
[image loading]

Strelok's proxy cheese. One can imagine IdrA's reaction now if he had gone 14 CC and not scouted it

[image loading]

Progamer SCV sense of star saves the day!

IdrA continues standardly with Barracks/Refinery, while Strelok adds a Supply Depot at home.

[image loading]

"Fuck off!" "No you!" "Fine T_T"

Strelok is forced to cancel his proxy Barracks because IdrA's SCV was attacking his building SCV. Now comfortably behind, Strelok makes another Barracks in his main and takes his own gas.

Status Check!
Strelok is down by a little less than 2 SCVs, economically. His Barracks is less than half-done while IdrA's is already complete. Similarly with the geysers.

Idra adds a second Depot before starting his Factory, while Strelok (when his lazy SCV finally finishes the epic project of the Barracks) throws his down prior to the second depot. Because of this, IdrA's factory is only slightly ahead of Strelok's.

Strelok makes a single Marine and then floats his Barracks, while IdrA instructs 3 men on the use of Gauss Rifles before lifting his.

[image loading]

You may have stopped my proxy, but I'm going to have a Barracks at you one way or another!

Both players go 2 fact, researching mines first, although Strelok's second factory ended up significantly behind due to his opening.

[image loading]

IdrA attacks Strelok's forces. Strelok has no Siege Tank, and loses a Marine immediately, before pulling back behind the mines.

[image loading]

IdrA mentally curses a mine for blowing up half his men

IdrA and Strelok continue by researching Ionic Thrusters, while Strelok adds a Starport, hidden at the top right corner of his base. Strelok also adds a third factory.

[image loading]
[image loading]

IdrA's expansion CC is blocked! Meanwhile, at Strelok's corner....

Strelok's CC was roughly 650 HP slower than IdrA's due to his more diverse tech choices. Strelok also elected to cancel that third factory he was making. Strelok thus has 2 factories and a starport against IdrA's (now) four factories and armory/academy which he just started.

An attack!
[image loading]
[image loading]

[image loading]
[image loading]


[image loading]

Meanwhile... The wraiths kill many SCVs (at time of that screenshot they had 9 kills between them, but they got many more (we're talking 25+)

[image loading]

Strelok, "the SCV assassin", is everywhere!

[image loading]
Hm

[image loading]

Attempting to prove his point, IdrA attacks!

Having given up his natural as unsalvageable, IdrA migrated that CC to the 9 expansion. Strelok also took the 3 at this time.

[image loading]

All was not well at IdrA's 9, however...

[image loading]

IdrA's main gets dropped, but he managed to shut down Strelok's 3 o'clock expansion, while taking his own near the bottom right.

IdrA quickly gets frustrated with trying to defend his last expansion, however, and leaves.

IdrA the "Manner Bear"

Strelok posted in support of IdrA after IdrA's loss in broodsport:
On February 22 2009 01:52 3D.Strelok wrote:
Stop talking shit about Idra, it's not about his game, it's all about F91. I remember how i played CJ_Orion in PGL. He used EVERY small mistake or even sign of mistake. F91 is not ofc Orion, but also very solid zerg!


[image loading]

So how exactly did IdrA leave? Did he type "gg", or even "g"? Well...
[image loading]
[image loading]

Thanks To:
Teamliquid.net, for being the best StarCraft website out there!
Strelok, for being a good player and playing awesome StarCraft!
Imageshack, for hosting the images!
GosuGamers.net, for being where I originally got the replay!
Idra, for being consistently bm and cocky, without which the replay would just have been a good TvT, but not motivating enough for me to write this!

Note to Moderators/Admins:
Hopefully you respect me and my contribution enough to keep this open, unlike the IdrA bm vs Strelok topic which was previously closed before (and it was admittedly short on content apart from bashing Idra so I don't disagree with that decision, but I've attempted to mitigate that problem by actually writing a battlereport about the game itself).
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 21 2009 01:25 GMT
#2
watched it like 5 min ago. It was a very gg besides the bm.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
March 21 2009 01:27 GMT
#3
On March 21 2009 10:25 AoN.DimSum wrote:
watched it like 5 min ago. It was a very gg besides the bm.

Yep, although I definitely wouldn't have spent so long writing this up but for the BM
I'm continually disappointed that it was IdrA who ended up 'representing' foreigners in Korea rather than NonY
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
March 21 2009 01:27 GMT
#4
i dont even know where to begin sometimes, frustration is every gamers' flaw. honest to say, who hasnt felt frustrated or angry when they lost a game? but anywho i enjoyed the read, its a good read. sad to see the ending as so. better than the closed thread, though.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 21 2009 01:30 GMT
#5
Did Idra really write that?

If so all i got to say is

What a fag....
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
March 21 2009 01:31 GMT
#6
Very well written. IdrA does need to stop bming, but still.. Great game, great report. 5/5 imo.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
March 21 2009 01:32 GMT
#7
I was actually interested in what happened in that game, due my computer being fucked, I couldnt watch the replay.

Thanks for the write-up, I feel bad for Strelok who seems like a really nice guy, to be trashed like that after obviously playing a really good game..and he even stood up for Idra when he was getting flamed for being crushed by f91.

liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
March 21 2009 01:36 GMT
#8
haha... wtf...
thats gotta be sarcrasm... right?.....
i mean... how could some1...
I feel like pwning noobs
Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
March 21 2009 01:39 GMT
#9
On March 21 2009 10:30 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Did Idra really write that?

If so all i got to say is

What a fag....

Yes he did.

On March 21 2009 10:36 liger13 wrote:
haha... wtf...
thats gotta be sarcrasm... right?.....
i mean... how could some1...

No, I'm pretty sure it's not sarcasm.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
March 21 2009 01:39 GMT
#10
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
March 21 2009 01:41 GMT
#11
Ok, did Idra really PREFACE A GAME by insulting his opponent?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
March 21 2009 01:42 GMT
#12
I actually loved your presentation haha, good job!
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
March 21 2009 01:43 GMT
#13
No, he said it right after his natural was tanked, after losing 26 SCVs to Strelok's wraiths.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 21 2009 01:45 GMT
#14
take out links to the replay and your post might not get closed. idra requested that his reps not be spread
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 21 2009 01:47 GMT
#15
On March 21 2009 10:39 ilistis wrote:
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.


This is just my own theory but maybe the koreans doesn't really care about IdrA and doesn't let him practice enough against koreans and IdrA is too proud to admit that he's being treated badly.

Maybe this is true, maybe not, I really want to find a reason other than IdrA is bad. I guess it's many conditions like language, culture and stuff that adds up too. Maybe Rekrul takes him out partying too much?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 01:50:23
March 21 2009 01:47 GMT
#16
Whats the big deal, Idra did some bm, its just him.

On March 21 2009 10:47 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 10:39 ilistis wrote:
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.


This is just my own theory but maybe the koreans doesn't really care about IdrA and doesn't let him practice enough against koreans and IdrA is too proud to admit that he's being treated badly.

Maybe this is true, maybe not, I really want to find a reason other than IdrA is bad. I guess it's many conditions like language, culture and stuff that adds up too. Maybe Rekrul takes him out partying too much?


Idra is an asshole, but he doesn't suck at SC, he would own your ass any day.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Future)Breeze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Croatia88 Posts
March 21 2009 01:49 GMT
#17
ROFL at Idra...epic BM...that last "skilless newbie" made me LOL SO HARD
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
March 21 2009 01:50 GMT
#18
idra is a dick, from what i've seen.
I seriously don't understand why he can't type gg like the rest of us.
Maybe if he had some composure, maybe i would support him as the only foreigner even close to the korean scene (and White_Ra i hear is rising up, so maybe not for long). right now though, i think he makes us all look bad :S
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
March 21 2009 01:51 GMT
#19
Meh, while BM isn't very nice it's not like he actually holds any malice towars strelok, he's just taking out his frustration.
u gotta sk8
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 21 2009 01:53 GMT
#20
I think the key point to remember from this game is that strelok did indeed win. Such a skilless newb capable of taking games of those of this skill. I was blown away at how many kills those initial wraiths got
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
1 2 3 4 5 16 17 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
Clem vs Serral
TaKeTV5253
ComeBackTV 1309
TaKeSeN 398
IndyStarCraft 281
3DClanTV 99
EnkiAlexander 87
Rex71
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 281
Railgan 81
Nathanias 77
Rex 71
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 12078
Dewaltoss 129
sorry 7
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
summit1g7165
Other Games
Grubby4436
FrodaN3365
fl0m783
KnowMe283
PiGStarcraft243
ArmadaUGS137
UpATreeSC46
ToD42
JuggernautJason15
Tefel8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick34346
BasetradeTV272
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream143
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 66
• HeavenSC 27
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix7
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Noizen73
Other Games
• imaqtpie1034
Upcoming Events
GSL
13h 26m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 13h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.