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if oyu said protoss, please go kill yourself.
If you say zerg well youre still wrong.
its terran. looooll zerg has fucking lurkers. marines have like no hp, marine micro, vessel micro, keep scout alive, unsiege siege, and not to mention, were the most prone to rushes like zeal rushes as well as early ling rushes.
Yes, yes zerg has mutas. I for one, really don't find muta micro hard if there isnt latency. That might be just me.
Ill admit though, zerg takes osme management, but really its terran.
and then theres protoss. The linux of starcraft.
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Marine micro is really, really easy. It's like riding a bike really. Much harder to utilize lurkers once Terran figures out he doesn't have to put all his rines in a nice juicy ball.
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On April 04 2009 09:42 RaptuhJeezus wrote:
if oyu said protoss, please go kill yourself.
If you say zerg well youre still wrong.
its terran. looooll zerg has fucking lurkers. marines have like no hp, marine micro, vessel micro, keep scout alive, unsiege siege, and not to mention, were the most prone to rushes like zeal rushes as well as early ling rushes.
Yes, yes zerg has mutas. I for one, really don't find muta micro hard if there isnt latency. That might be just me.
Ill admit though, zerg takes osme management, but really its terran.
and then theres protoss. The linux of starcraft.
The difficult thing about ZvT is, if you don't engage correctly, nothing dies. And 1m2m3m4m1t2t3t4t1a2a3a4a isn't that difficult after a while.
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On April 04 2009 09:42 RaptuhJeezus wrote:
if oyu said protoss, please go kill yourself.
If you say zerg well youre still wrong.
its terran. looooll zerg has fucking lurkers. marines have like no hp, marine micro, vessel micro, keep scout alive, unsiege siege, and not to mention, were the most prone to rushes like zeal rushes as well as early ling rushes.
Yes, yes zerg has mutas. I for one, really don't find muta micro hard if there isnt latency. That might be just me.
Ill admit though, zerg takes osme management, but really its terran.
and then theres protoss. The linux of starcraft.
What? I thought linux was hard to use because you have to know about computers or something... I've never used so I dunno though.
Also, you sound like some angry noob terran player.
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Protoss because aldaris is boring as hell!
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On April 04 2009 09:42 RaptuhJeezus wrote:
if oyu said protoss, please go kill yourself.
If you say zerg well youre still wrong.
its terran. looooll zerg has fucking lurkers. marines have like no hp, marine micro, vessel micro, keep scout alive, unsiege siege, and not to mention, were the most prone to rushes like zeal rushes as well as early ling rushes.
Yes, yes zerg has mutas. I for one, really don't find muta micro hard if there isnt latency. That might be just me.
Ill admit though, zerg takes osme management, but really its terran.
and then theres protoss. The linux of starcraft.
Terran is pretty hard to play but its only micro thats annoying. Terran macro is incredibly easier than Zerg macro. And even Zerg micro gets equal to Terran's in late game (Scourge pick off, plague, swarm, cannot 1a2a3a, MUST flank as Z or units die easily, Muta micro, lurkerling micro)
All in all, I think Terran is easier to play than Zerg. By just a little bit
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Why is there no "there is no hardest race" option? In my opinion, all three are difficult to master.
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On April 04 2009 01:38 AzureEye wrote:
Terran macro is easier than Zerg macro
Zerg micro is easier than Terran micro
Because Z needs to balance out exact ratio of drones/ fighting units coming outta hatchery. Make too little drones in the beginning and you have poor economy. Terran and Protoss has a seperate building that lets you constantly build workers non-stop (CC / Nexus) which will give you good economy, not to mention every Z building you make, you lose a drone in the process.
But I dislike micro'ing with Terran, it takes too much babysitting
Late game macro is going to be easier for the zerg player as they don't have to worry so much about perfect timing as they do to reaction to their opponent's recent maneuvers. Later in the game all the zerg has to do is select all/click unit and now you have 12 units of that type in the time it would take one terran to queue up a few units of the same type in single factory/barracks. Also, baby-sitting can be done with a few extra actions per minute spread out over a certain length of time in that minute, nothing that you wouldn't be doing anyhow.
And yes, all three are difficult to master, but some have different difficult aspects about them then others do... they are different types of play.
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I definately think vs an equally skilled terran player that lategame I have a much easier job.
Building on 7 rax alone all game is hard enough. Now add swarm-plague-lurkers-nydus-scourge and you have a fucking apm meltdown on your hands.
I voted terran since everyone of there matchups is ungodly hard. While zerg and protoss both have an 'easy' matchup.
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Protoss needs to be under pressure almost all the time.
In tvp, the terran army is super scary.
In pvz, you need to spend a lot of time, not knowing what your opponent is doing (unless you own thim with uber probescouting).
PvP is just annoying at times because you need to worry about DT's
But anyways, i thnk that the races are equally hard.
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People actually voted for Protoss, I'm surprised :x
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On April 05 2009 14:44 MuR)Ernu wrote:
Protoss needs to be under pressure almost all the time.
In tvp, the terran army is super scary.
In pvz, you need to spend a lot of time, not knowing what your opponent is doing (unless you own thim with uber probescouting).
PvP is just annoying at times because you need to worry about DT's
But anyways, i thnk that the races are equally hard.
D.T. Drop. yeah, really hard.
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but hasn't it already been agreed that terran is hardest race?
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The lack of good foreign terrans makes this obvious. And no one can really think toss is harder to play than zerg, thus this poll is accurate in terms of rankings.
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I play T and I think its by far the hardest. I play P on occasion and I can make so many mistakes and come back from it. Zerg I havent really played enough to say so but I know that a lot of zergs wins are my mistakes like accidently walking my army into lurkers when I'm macroing so id say they have it easier.
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On April 05 2009 17:54 MachineHead wrote:
The lack of good foreign terrans makes this obvious. And no one can really think toss is harder to play than zerg, thus this poll is accurate in terms of rankings.
What lack ? Last i check it was a terran who got WCG's third place. Strelok beat Lx for third place if i'm not mistaken . Also Super beat Lx in the ESWC . All russian terrans are a force - Brat_OK , Androide , A2 , Ex . There are many more great foreigner terrans . Even our WCG was won by terran - Lamer .
Idra is considered a foreginer too .
I would say gosu foreign zergs are fewer , but thats because i can't remember them all :/ . F91 , Mondragoon , Dinot , Castro , Gosia ..... Are the ones who pop in my mind right now  .
From the very start protoss seems the easiest when you get to C levels at iccup i think their equally hard .
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On April 05 2009 17:54 MachineHead wrote:
The lack of good foreign terrans makes this obvious. And no one can really think toss is harder to play than zerg, thus this poll is accurate in terms of rankings.
if you think about it you will realize theres just as many good foreign terrans as zergs
try to argue, i wana hear it
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On April 05 2009 18:15 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 17:54 MachineHead wrote:
The lack of good foreign terrans makes this obvious. And no one can really think toss is harder to play than zerg, thus this poll is accurate in terms of rankings. What lack ? Last i check it was a terran who got WCG's third place. Strelok beat Lx for third place if i'm not mistaken . Also Super beat Lx in the ESWC . All russian terrans are a force - Brat_OK , Androide , A2 , Ex . There are many more great foreigner terrans . Even our WCG was won by terran - Lamer . Idra is considered a foreginer too . I would say gosu foreign zergs are fewer , but thats because i can't remember them all :/ . F91 , Mondragoon , Dinot , Castro , Gosia ..... Are the ones who pop in my mind right now .
good post actually u posted this same time as i did haha
i was asking the guy to provide the list but you helped him out
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another thing people dont realize is that "good foreign zerg"( lets take castro for instance) is not that good at all
few zergs like mondi and gosia and f91, maybe xiaozi on a good day can produce games that actually make sense and based off macroing( can last longer then 12 minutes), but almost everybody else is lacking major components
just watch castro or dinot play, theres many vods out there
they often have no clue wtf they doing, few builds they win with are all-inish. And people like target, machine, oystein would not be on that list of best foreigners just yet( id put chosen in there too)
foreign terran capable of winning vs a sick korean, foreign protoss is too. Foreign zerg? fuck no
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and fuck, i dont even remember a foreign zerg that could zvt besides sen( when was that lol?) and f91
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