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United States10528 Posts
FlaShFTW (T) vs A.Alm (T) Grudge Match
Date: June 6, 2026
Time: 11:00am CST/6:00pm CEST
Matchup: TvT Bo7
Map order: Jane Doe, Octagon, Neo Sylphid, Pole Star, Knockout, Attitude, Match Point
Location/Casters: Azhi_Dahaki | www.twitch.tv/azhi_dahaki
Reason: Argument over Soma vs FlaSh Game 7 and general troll/rage baiting.
Punishment: An apology/humiliation post in the blog forum admitting defeat and that the other person has superior game knowledge, followed by a 1 week temp ban from Teamliquid which will be requested within their blog post.
A.Alm and I have agreed on the above match and punishment.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Good luck have fun.
TvT this might take a while....or be done in an hour flash vs light style :D
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LOL can't wait. Last grude match I saw was funnybananaman vs Jealous. Looking forward to this one.
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we need someone as unhinged as day9 was during chill/combatEX to commentate
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
my idea for punishment was signing every post with "I'm a dumb bitch" until the end of ASL 22
but a blog post is fine
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YES
but please add: NO CHATGPT/AI help for the blog post
I want pure unadulterated tears and whining
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Too bad I won't be able to watch it live
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can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next?
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Okay, so I just stumbled upon Day9 casting Combatex vs chill, The Grude Match of all grudge matches on tl.net anyway.
Glad to see it is back in action.
Do I root for who has the correct answer Or who I like more?
If there is a problem finding a caster. Post here again. I'm sure someone will agree to talk some shit.
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On May 30 2026 16:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
my idea for punishment was signing every post with "I'm a dumb bitch" until the end of ASL 22
but a blog post is fine
Lol yes plz
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can't wait
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On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next?
and SCRVN
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Hell yeah! I'm glad someone actually accepted.
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I hope there will be a lot of trash talk!
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Netherlands5674 Posts
I msged and e-mailed Day[9] if he'd be interested a few days ago, hopefully he is.
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LOL I was gonna suggest the same and you’ve already thought about it.
We NEED him to shittalk us through this grudge match FFS
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
On May 30 2026 17:59 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? and SCRVN
What's the point he's already perm'd
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United States10528 Posts
Azhi Dahaki has agreed to cast the series! And we have moved the start time up 1 hour to accommodate Azhi’s schedule.
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Now this is the kinda thing i m here for.
GL!
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On May 30 2026 16:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
LOL can't wait. Last grude match I saw was funnybananaman vs Jealous. Looking forward to this one.
Good times 
This one should have been for perm ban. Getting rid of A.Alm would have been some wonderful community service from FlaShFTW.
On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next?
I would gladly volunteer and it would be amazing but we all know he will never accept because he doesn't play the game.
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On May 31 2026 01:24 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2026 16:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
LOL can't wait. Last grude match I saw was funnybananaman vs Jealous. Looking forward to this one. Good times This one should have been for perm ban. Getting rid of A.Alm would have been some wonderful community service from FlaShFTW. Show nested quote +On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? I would gladly volunteer and it would be amazing but we all know he will never accept because he doesn't play the game.
U wanna be next bro?
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On May 31 2026 02:31 A.Alm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 01:24 Jealous wrote:On May 30 2026 16:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
LOL can't wait. Last grude match I saw was funnybananaman vs Jealous. Looking forward to this one. Good times This one should have been for perm ban. Getting rid of A.Alm would have been some wonderful community service from FlaShFTW. On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? I would gladly volunteer and it would be amazing but we all know he will never accept because he doesn't play the game. U wanna be next bro?
Let's see if you're worthy first.
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of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45
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This is so 2009.
I remember chill challenging the whole of gosugamer staff team to a giant grudge match. They chickened out though.
Such good times.
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On May 31 2026 03:04 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 02:31 A.Alm wrote:On May 31 2026 01:24 Jealous wrote:On May 30 2026 16:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
LOL can't wait. Last grude match I saw was funnybananaman vs Jealous. Looking forward to this one. Good times This one should have been for perm ban. Getting rid of A.Alm would have been some wonderful community service from FlaShFTW. On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? I would gladly volunteer and it would be amazing but we all know he will never accept because he doesn't play the game. U wanna be next bro? Let's see if you're worthy first.
Is Chizh&Co big in Russia? They just popped up in my spotify and it’s the best music I’ve heard in decades. Truly amazing much love.
As for the game, TvT? Fuuuuuck this is a bummer dude
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On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45
Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5.
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Alright, I bet on Alm's victory. I love risk.
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United States10528 Posts
On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5.
Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game.
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On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game.
Good thing you aren't talking about me because I said "for whatever timestamp is appropriate", which can include 3:41. The point still stands.
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United States10528 Posts
On May 31 2026 06:19 SerpentFlame wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. Good thing you aren't talking about me because I said "for whatever timestamp is appropriate", which can include 3:41. The point still stands.
You're next anyways. Come at me.
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The good thing about it being a mirror match up is that no one can blame map or race balance afterwards.
I'm looking forward to see who juggles in-game trash talking whilst playing, the best!
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4-0 total one-sided domination
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flashftw got baited. If aim doesnt win a game with ghost he can consider himself the loser of this Grudge.
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What was the cause of the grudge lol
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United States10528 Posts
On June 01 2026 00:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
flashftw got baited. If aim doesnt win a game with ghost he can consider himself the loser of this Grudge.
Might've gotten baited but I'm not a coward.
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On May 31 2026 05:54 Timebon3s wrote:
Is Chizh&Co big in Russia? They just popped up in my spotify and it’s the best music I’ve heard in decades. Truly amazing much love.
Used to be very well-known, say, 20 years ago, not so much nowadays. Quite a random thing to stumble upon on tl.net, cheers! you might wanna check out Auktyon or Nautilus Pompilius next.
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On June 01 2026 00:55 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 00:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
flashftw got baited. If aim doesnt win a game with ghost he can consider himself the loser of this Grudge. Might've gotten baited but I'm not a coward.
Well. It depends cuz you definitily Insult other posters in the forum and you are shielded by your ''TL status'' When other users answer you back in the same manner they get ban. That kind of applies to a Coward ?
Still i think These grudgematches will be more fun when the skill is kind of similar. So this nerd Aim better put a show..
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On June 01 2026 01:01 angryground wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 05:54 Timebon3s wrote:
Is Chizh&Co big in Russia? They just popped up in my spotify and it’s the best music I’ve heard in decades. Truly amazing much love.
Used to be very well-known, say, 20 years ago, not so much nowadays. Quite a random thing to stumble upon on tl.net, cheers! you might wanna check out Auktyon or Nautilus Pompilius next.
Thanks I’ll do that :D
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United States10528 Posts
On June 01 2026 01:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 00:55 FlaShFTW wrote:On June 01 2026 00:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
flashftw got baited. If aim doesnt win a game with ghost he can consider himself the loser of this Grudge. Might've gotten baited but I'm not a coward. Well. It depends cuz you definitily Insult other posters in the forum and you are shielded by your ''TL status'' When other users answer you back in the same manner they get ban. That kind of applies to a Coward ? Still i think These grudgematches will be more fun when the skill is kind of similar. So this nerd Aim better put a show..
Posters with a history of poor posting get mod actioned. And my posts are at minimum on topic and contributing to the discussion. Stay on topic, address the topic, and the posts are fine. TL has lowered the bar considerably for post quality compared to when the forum was extremely active during KeSPA, half of the posts in the ASL thread would have gotten mod actioned if this was the past.
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On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game.
8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you.
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On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you.
Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that.
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On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that.
Strawmanning is universal in any culture
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On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that.
Pros supposedly refused, so users went about and made UMS game and tested games. Between 2400 MMR users according to infos. Tested over 1st ling runby
https://www.youtube.com/live/jq7o6T15Ms4
1st game (terran win) ditched due to main Hatchery being misplaced
This is organized users between S ranks (2400) of the situation, and it was concluded it was about 7:3 for Zerg favor at that point.
Played over 500 balloons for game
Lot of conclusion seems to be that lings had to be cleaned up at main rather than going to natural. Terran felt that he initially thought Terran was in playable position before testing, but felt that Zerg being able to get Lair at that point was huge. And that Drones could be saved when 2nd round of lings went in, so gap widened further. The long rush distance means 2 Rax academy timing afterwards don't work.
Zerg user (TemuSoma) felt that it was about 7:3 ahead for Zerg in that situation. He felt if he delayed main as long as possible with army in main, and opponent got 2rax, turrets won't go up very fast in time. But 2rax aca is almost forced in that situation, so Terran can't help but to get harassed by muta after that.
Zerg streamer link: https://www.sooplive.com/station/hn00414
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On June 01 2026 04:32 doktordingerdonger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that. Strawmanning is universal in any culture
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You said nobody cares. Apparently a lot care. There are people on TL, Reddit, Youtube, Korean forums, etc. arguing over it.
Please enlighten me how "player X should have done this or that at Y minute" is a strange concept to you. That's just how every game ever has been discussed since the beginning of games. Why are you so fucking mad?
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lol both players are going to copy Flash's build order. whoever is the closest to copying is the winner.
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Korea (South)11598 Posts
Should be using the map challenger in a challenge like this. no excuses.
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On June 01 2026 04:46 jinjin5000 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that. ... Zerg user (TemuSoma) felt that it was about 7:3 ahead for Zerg in that situation. He felt if he delayed main as long as possible with army in main, and opponent got 2rax, turrets won't go up very fast in time. But 2rax aca is almost forced in that situation, so Terran can't help but to get harassed by muta after that.
What's your interpretation of the 7:3 ratio? A game at 2400 mmr at 30%~ win probability has plenty of room for a comeback, but at the absolute highest level this likely would require soma to make some critical and unforced errors that aren't to be expected at that level.
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On June 01 2026 05:10 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 04:32 doktordingerdonger wrote:On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that. Strawmanning is universal in any culture ? You said nobody cares. Apparently a lot care. There are people on TL, Reddit, Youtube, Korean forums, etc. arguing over it. Please enlighten me how "player X should have done this or that at Y minute" is a strange concept to you. That's just how every game ever has been discussed since the beginning of games. Why are you so fucking mad?
Indeed nobody cares, and you are nobodies
math checks out
User was temp banned for this post.
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On June 01 2026 09:54 doktordingerdonger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 05:10 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 04:32 doktordingerdonger wrote:On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that. Strawmanning is universal in any culture ? You said nobody cares. Apparently a lot care. There are people on TL, Reddit, Youtube, Korean forums, etc. arguing over it. Please enlighten me how "player X should have done this or that at Y minute" is a strange concept to you. That's just how every game ever has been discussed since the beginning of games. Why are you so fucking mad? Indeed nobody cares, and you are nobodies math checks out
Does this thread have different rules regarding being an asshole because it's a grudgematch thread, or...?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
On June 01 2026 10:16 Fleetfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 09:54 doktordingerdonger wrote:On June 01 2026 05:10 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 04:32 doktordingerdonger wrote:On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that. Strawmanning is universal in any culture ? You said nobody cares. Apparently a lot care. There are people on TL, Reddit, Youtube, Korean forums, etc. arguing over it. Please enlighten me how "player X should have done this or that at Y minute" is a strange concept to you. That's just how every game ever has been discussed since the beginning of games. Why are you so fucking mad? Indeed nobody cares, and you are nobodies math checks out Does this thread have different rules regarding being an asshole because it's a grudgematch thread, or...?
Eh, Timezones are a bitch.
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On June 01 2026 10:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2026 10:16 Fleetfeet wrote:On June 01 2026 09:54 doktordingerdonger wrote:On June 01 2026 05:10 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 04:32 doktordingerdonger wrote:On June 01 2026 03:34 TMNT wrote:On June 01 2026 03:25 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 31 2026 06:14 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 31 2026 06:09 SerpentFlame wrote:On May 31 2026 05:24 doktordingerdonger wrote:
of course its two terrans...
You should play a custom map with the exact scenario of Soma vs Flash at minute 4:45 Ditto this (for whatever timestamp is appropriate). Whoever thinks Flash could've won with float-to-nat should take Flash's position. Play Bo5. Anyone talking about 4:45 at that point in the game should also be forced to grudgematch me. Just yap, not engaging with the actual point of the game state at 3:41 because none of you can actually address that stage of the game. 8 billion people in this world and nobody cares about 3:41 except you. Jinjin literally said that on Korean forums they were talking about funding spon games to recreate the situation from 3:41 ... now whether it materialises (I doubt it will lol) is another matter but lots of people do care about that. Strawmanning is universal in any culture ? You said nobody cares. Apparently a lot care. There are people on TL, Reddit, Youtube, Korean forums, etc. arguing over it. Please enlighten me how "player X should have done this or that at Y minute" is a strange concept to you. That's just how every game ever has been discussed since the beginning of games. Why are you so fucking mad? Indeed nobody cares, and you are nobodies math checks out Does this thread have different rules regarding being an asshole because it's a grudgematch thread, or...? Eh, Timezones are a bitch.
I fucked up my delivery, but it was a genuine question and not -just- me being passive-aggressive. Appreciate the response and the work!
Speaking of timezones I doubt I'll be available for the event live, but I'll definitely have to check out the cast after the fact!
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Where can I read the grudge?
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Poland3769 Posts
On May 30 2026 16:04 FlaShFTW wrote:FlaShFTW (T) vs A.Alm (T) Grudge Match Date: June 7, 2026 Time: 10:00am CST/6:00pm CEST Matchup: TvT Bo7 Map order: Jane Doe, Octagon, Neo Sylphid, Pole Star, Knockout, Attitude, Match Point Location/Casters: Azhi_Dahaki | www.twitch.tv/azhi_dahakiReason: Argument over Soma vs FlaSh Game 7 and general troll/rage baiting. Punishment: An apology/humiliation post in the blog forum admitting defeat and that the other person has superior game knowledge, followed by a 1 week temp ban from Teamliquid which will be requested within their blog post. A.Alm and I have agreed on the above match and punishment.
I have to admit, this is a level of nerdism I'm more nostalgic about than KeSPA Proleague. I'll do my best to tune in.
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Who cares about the actual games, I wanna hear the trash talk
your girlfriend should suck a dick
my dick, that is
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How old are you again flashftw ?
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Northern Ireland27207 Posts
On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next?
Who wants to be humiliated by his Queen rush into infesting your CC that would totally work and isn’t a sign he doesn’t actually play the game?
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On June 02 2026 08:24 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? Who wants to be humiliated by his Queen rush into infesting your CC that would totally work and isn’t a sign he doesn’t actually play the game?
You don't understand. The Queen Nest is only 150/100, and a Queen is only 100/100, and because of the Hydra vs. Dragoon interaction which my calculations 2 years ago prove is in benefit of Dragoon, as seen in Last vs. Best last year, it means that you have the extra resources to punish Terran with a fast Queen. Instead of 2 Mutalisk you can wait for 1 Queen while your 9 mutalisk harass Terran undefended CC and then use Queen to infest CC at nat when you get it to 66% HP which is 4 volleys of 9x9 = 81 = 81 x 4 = 324 = Terran dies. It is basic math. I stand by my word, I have the proof.
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On June 02 2026 08:43 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2026 08:24 WombaT wrote:On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? Who wants to be humiliated by his Queen rush into infesting your CC that would totally work and isn’t a sign he doesn’t actually play the game? You don't understand. The Queen Nest is only 150/100, and a Queen is only 100/100, and because of the Hydra vs. Dragoon interaction which my calculations 2 years ago prove is in benefit of Dragoon, as seen in Last vs. Best last year, it means that you have the extra resources to punish Terran with a fast Queen. Instead of 2 Mutalisk you can wait for 1 Queen while your 9 mutalisk harass Terran undefended CC and then use Queen to infest CC at nat when you get it to 66% HP which is 4 volleys of 9x9 = 81 = 81 x 4 = 324 = Terran dies. It is basic math. I stand by my word, I have the proof.
this was beautiful
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Listen folks, I will show you how to do a proper grudge match.
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On June 02 2026 11:15 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2026 08:43 Jealous wrote:On June 02 2026 08:24 WombaT wrote:On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? Who wants to be humiliated by his Queen rush into infesting your CC that would totally work and isn’t a sign he doesn’t actually play the game? You don't understand. The Queen Nest is only 150/100, and a Queen is only 100/100, and because of the Hydra vs. Dragoon interaction which my calculations 2 years ago prove is in benefit of Dragoon, as seen in Last vs. Best last year, it means that you have the extra resources to punish Terran with a fast Queen. Instead of 2 Mutalisk you can wait for 1 Queen while your 9 mutalisk harass Terran undefended CC and then use Queen to infest CC at nat when you get it to 66% HP which is 4 volleys of 9x9 = 81 = 81 x 4 = 324 = Terran dies. It is basic math. I stand by my word, I have the proof. this was beautiful
well, if you'd have read mtcn posts [239] from 2022, and posts [17], [18], [31] and [36] from 2024, you'd have known that mtcn already replied to your funny attempt at a joke.
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On June 02 2026 18:36 TelecoM wrote:
Listen folks, I will show you how to do a proper grudge match.
No you dont. Im still waiting for the freestyle vs puppykiller..
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United States10528 Posts
Hi everyone, we've moved the date up 1 day to June 6th. Please adjust your calendars!
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Missing my grampa's D-Day BBQ for this and it's not even close
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On June 02 2026 08:43 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2026 08:24 WombaT wrote:On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? Who wants to be humiliated by his Queen rush into infesting your CC that would totally work and isn’t a sign he doesn’t actually play the game? You don't understand. The Queen Nest is only 150/100, and a Queen is only 100/100, and because of the Hydra vs. Dragoon interaction which my calculations 2 years ago prove is in benefit of Dragoon, as seen in Last vs. Best last year, it means that you have the extra resources to punish Terran with a fast Queen. Instead of 2 Mutalisk you can wait for 1 Queen while your 9 mutalisk harass Terran undefended CC and then use Queen to infest CC at nat when you get it to 66% HP which is 4 volleys of 9x9 = 81 = 81 x 4 = 324 = Terran dies. It is basic math. I stand by my word, I have the proof.
I want a team melee mode (aka archon) game with mtcn+ajfirecracker on one end.
I don't care who is on the other end, i wanna see the forbidden tactics
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Northern Ireland27207 Posts
On June 02 2026 08:43 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2026 08:24 WombaT wrote:On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? Who wants to be humiliated by his Queen rush into infesting your CC that would totally work and isn’t a sign he doesn’t actually play the game? You don't understand. The Queen Nest is only 150/100, and a Queen is only 100/100, and because of the Hydra vs. Dragoon interaction which my calculations 2 years ago prove is in benefit of Dragoon, as seen in Last vs. Best last year, it means that you have the extra resources to punish Terran with a fast Queen. Instead of 2 Mutalisk you can wait for 1 Queen while your 9 mutalisk harass Terran undefended CC and then use Queen to infest CC at nat when you get it to 66% HP which is 4 volleys of 9x9 = 81 = 81 x 4 = 324 = Terran dies. It is basic math. I stand by my word, I have the proof.
Ok fair, I didn’t realise that :p
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On June 03 2026 02:29 WGT-Baal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2026 08:43 Jealous wrote:On June 02 2026 08:24 WombaT wrote:On May 30 2026 16:59 evilfatsh1t wrote:
can we get a volunteer to grudge match mtcn next? Who wants to be humiliated by his Queen rush into infesting your CC that would totally work and isn’t a sign he doesn’t actually play the game? You don't understand. The Queen Nest is only 150/100, and a Queen is only 100/100, and because of the Hydra vs. Dragoon interaction which my calculations 2 years ago prove is in benefit of Dragoon, as seen in Last vs. Best last year, it means that you have the extra resources to punish Terran with a fast Queen. Instead of 2 Mutalisk you can wait for 1 Queen while your 9 mutalisk harass Terran undefended CC and then use Queen to infest CC at nat when you get it to 66% HP which is 4 volleys of 9x9 = 81 = 81 x 4 = 324 = Terran dies. It is basic math. I stand by my word, I have the proof. I want a team melee mode (aka archon) game with mtcn+ajfirecracker on one end. I don't care who is on the other end, i wanna see the forbidden tactics
I didn't know I needed this until now
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On June 02 2026 20:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2026 18:36 TelecoM wrote:
Listen folks, I will show you how to do a proper grudge match. No you dont. Im still waiting for the freestyle vs puppykiller..
Oh shit I totally forgot about that LOL man it's been too long.
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United States10528 Posts
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LOL players will be playing with mics open
amazing
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So far NOBODY abandoning any mains? I dunno about this.
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game 1.
FlashFTW with the proxy bbs float into Alm's main on jane doe
and what the fk.
no idea what's happening
both got quiet lol
host quote "We have offically lost bbs vs 13cc - it can be done."
another good quote
"Is the replay broken?"
{game is live} lol
"It's not about playing well, it's about the friends you make along the way"
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I think it should be against the law to challenge someone to a best of 7 TvT.
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losing w/ BBS vs 13 cc is a great start to this circus lolol
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That was more fun that it should have been.
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The person doing commentary has no charisma at all.
I understand TvT is like watching the paint dry, but come on
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game 3 ending is a masterpiece
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Bisutopia19368 Posts
At a wedding currently, the LR updates are appreciated! GL gentlemen… unless its over, then i need a recap!
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Netherlands5674 Posts
Game 7, let's gooooooo!
FlaShFTW hwaitng!
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United States10528 Posts
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
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Oh nooooo hahaha spoilers in the OP because FlashFTW is banned XD
EDIT: Just watched the games. It was just like the real Flash... my heartstrings :'( omg. GGs
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On June 07 2026 02:00 8882 wrote:
The person doing commentary has no charisma at all.
I understand TvT is like watching the paint dry, but come on
lol damn that's harsh
maybe you should grudge match him
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oh the humiliation. i love it
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On June 07 2026 10:44 razorsuKe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2026 02:00 8882 wrote:
The person doing commentary has no charisma at all.
I understand TvT is like watching the paint dry, but come on lol damn that's harsh maybe you should grudge match him
good plan!
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Flashftw to me you are considered the winner of this grudge u pulled a Rocky vs Apollo type shit fight lol. I was expecting this to finish 4-1 4-2 at max.
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United States33660 Posts
glad u guys are keeping old TL.net culture alive 
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EPT
