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ElkY vs RaSZi Kickboxing fight

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gaston116
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:51:48
November 23 2011 17:23 GMT
#1


Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier against Lex "RaSZi" Veldhuis both former BW players fights eachother.
From 2+2
"original bet was 50k euro, but Lex said the total amount was 'sixfigs' (including sideaction), he didnt want to say an exact total."

From Lex website

+ Show Spoiler +
Me:

- Did boxing for 1.5 years when I was 16. I trained once a week for a couple of months at the time, totalling 15-20 lessons. The footwork taught in boxing actually hurt me, cause it's different in kickboxing. It did give me good coordination for training.

- I've been in a couple streetfights.

- I have had a lot of injuries, most of them to the shin and ribs. I bruised 9 ribs total and nearly broke both my feet. After discussing the bet in 2009 August, I started doing some running in February, not taking it seriously till April. Then I bruised my ribs and injured my spleen. This was when we postponed the bet the first time. I wasn't able to train for 2.5 months. After WSOP in september I started doing some kickboxing training, but I overstretched my foot in October and couldn't fight till December. I started again and had a shin injury that made it unable for me to train for 1.5 months. during March I started training again, mostly working on cardio. I had a miniscus injury from running while I was in Vegas 2011 WSOP. I found a guy 2 months ago who fixed it without needing surgery and I have been training a few times a week since then.

I had a shitload of injuries. This is pretty common knowledge for the people who travel the EPT's or who are around me and Elky. It can be checked out. I just think it's important information for possible bets. I do think I'm more athletic than Elky. My coordination is better.



Elky:

- Had kickboxing lessons during the summer of 2009 in Vegas in preparation for a bet with Sorel.

- He has done a lot of stamina/strength training the past 2 years and has been doing a lot of research on eating healthy and nutricion.

- His coordination seems a bit bad and I don't think he is a natural athlete.

- After this WSOP he met up with Lincon Rodrigues, his new coach. Since then he has been training 4 hours a day and went to thailand for 3-4 weeks. Elky will confirm this, he has mentioned all this in interviews.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 22:09:33
November 23 2011 17:24 GMT
#2
-NUKED-

*EDIT
Nuked myself for I am a fool!
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
November 23 2011 17:27 GMT
#3
On November 24 2011 02:24 Bourneq wrote:
Cool, but I dont think a thread dedicated to a youtube video is allowed.


Obviously you don't know who these players are..
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 23 2011 17:29 GMT
#4
On November 24 2011 02:27 `Zapdos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 02:24 Bourneq wrote:
Cool, but I dont think a thread dedicated to a youtube video is allowed.


Obviously you don't know who these players are..

Exactly what I thought.

Ahaha this is so funny, they really have too much money.
rgfdxm
Profile Joined December 2006
United States239 Posts
November 23 2011 17:29 GMT
#5
For anyone else who doesn't know... Elky was the second most successful foreigner ever to play Starcraft in Korea, and RaSZi was AKA Liquid`RaSZi.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
November 23 2011 17:30 GMT
#6
So it really happened, eh?

Can someone give me a spoiler-tagged result? I'm at work and can't watch the video.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 23 2011 17:32 GMT
#7
Raszi had much better technique, if I had to guess he trained much harder. Sick finish! The Dutch are overpowered in kickboxing
Ezekiell
Profile Joined April 2005
Hungary15 Posts
November 23 2011 17:33 GMT
#8
Results in spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +

RaSZi won with KO
Come to the dark side!
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
November 23 2011 17:34 GMT
#9
LOL :D
Epic fun :D
... Humanity Is Not What I Suffer From ...
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:36:58
November 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#10
Rekrul Korea (South). October 17 2011 20:03. Posts 15280 PM Profile Blog Quote #
Anyone who bets against Elky in anything is a retard.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
November 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#11
those two could invest in some sc2 tourneys!
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:37:27
November 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#12
doublepost
11 years and counting- TL #680
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:39:49
November 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#13
They could, but I assume they have moved on from starcraft a long time ago, so why would they.

Lex looked much better in the fight- also Elky seemed somewhat confused about the ruleset- Looked to me like he thought he'd be allowed to catch the kick and take him to the ground or something?
11 years and counting- TL #680
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#14
Nice. Epic fight.
Wishing you well.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#15
On November 24 2011 02:35 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rekrul Korea (South). October 17 2011 20:03. Posts 15280 PM Profile Blog Quote #
Anyone who bets against Elky in anything is a retard.

Ahahah, I hope for him that he didnt bet anything (which I really doubt).
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
November 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#16
These guys!

i guess they got talked into that or something ?
like on the poker table at the world series?
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
November 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#17
On November 24 2011 02:35 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rekrul Korea (South). October 17 2011 20:03. Posts 15280 PM Profile Blog Quote #
Anyone who bets against Elky in anything is a retard.


he probably wrote that to get the odds more in favour for him when he bets on Raszi...
gaston116
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden73 Posts
November 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#18
On November 24 2011 02:32 floor exercise wrote:
Raszi had much better technique, if I had to guess he trained much harder. Sick finish! The Dutch are overpowered in kickboxing

From Lex website

+ Show Spoiler +
Me:

- Did boxing for 1.5 years when I was 16. I trained once a week for a couple of months at the time, totalling 15-20 lessons. The footwork taught in boxing actually hurt me, cause it's different in kickboxing. It did give me good coordination for training.

- I've been in a couple streetfights.

- I have had a lot of injuries, most of them to the shin and ribs. I bruised 9 ribs total and nearly broke both my feet. After discussing the bet in 2009 August, I started doing some running in February, not taking it seriously till April. Then I bruised my ribs and injured my spleen. This was when we postponed the bet the first time. I wasn't able to train for 2.5 months. After WSOP in september I started doing some kickboxing training, but I overstretched my foot in October and couldn't fight till December. I started again and had a shin injury that made it unable for me to train for 1.5 months. during March I started training again, mostly working on cardio. I had a miniscus injury from running while I was in Vegas 2011 WSOP. I found a guy 2 months ago who fixed it without needing surgery and I have been training a few times a week since then.

I had a shitload of injuries. This is pretty common knowledge for the people who travel the EPT's or who are around me and Elky. It can be checked out. I just think it's important information for possible bets. I do think I'm more athletic than Elky. My coordination is better.



Elky:

- Had kickboxing lessons during the summer of 2009 in Vegas in preparation for a bet with Sorel.

- He has done a lot of stamina/strength training the past 2 years and has been doing a lot of research on eating healthy and nutricion.

- His coordination seems a bit bad and I don't think he is a natural athlete.

- After this WSOP he met up with Lincon Rodrigues, his new coach. Since then he has been training 4 hours a day and went to thailand for 3-4 weeks. Elky will confirm this, he has mentioned all this in interviews.
dizzee
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway36 Posts
November 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#19
On November 24 2011 02:37 Monsen wrote:
They could, but I assume they have moved on from starcraft a long time ago, so why would they.


Looking at some of their posts the occationally post in threads and likely lurk the forums. Considering they are both long time members of the community, i woulden't be suprised if they did invest.
Know that you do enjoy your life, and that life is a year-long cycle in which after winter, summer always arrives.
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
November 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#20
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awesome!

love both guys! Awwww poor elky!! <3
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