• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:18
CET 15:18
KST 23:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2?
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1977 users

ElkY vs RaSZi Kickboxing fight

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
gaston116
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:51:48
November 23 2011 17:23 GMT
#1


Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier against Lex "RaSZi" Veldhuis both former BW players fights eachother.
From 2+2
"original bet was 50k euro, but Lex said the total amount was 'sixfigs' (including sideaction), he didnt want to say an exact total."

From Lex website

+ Show Spoiler +
Me:

- Did boxing for 1.5 years when I was 16. I trained once a week for a couple of months at the time, totalling 15-20 lessons. The footwork taught in boxing actually hurt me, cause it's different in kickboxing. It did give me good coordination for training.

- I've been in a couple streetfights.

- I have had a lot of injuries, most of them to the shin and ribs. I bruised 9 ribs total and nearly broke both my feet. After discussing the bet in 2009 August, I started doing some running in February, not taking it seriously till April. Then I bruised my ribs and injured my spleen. This was when we postponed the bet the first time. I wasn't able to train for 2.5 months. After WSOP in september I started doing some kickboxing training, but I overstretched my foot in October and couldn't fight till December. I started again and had a shin injury that made it unable for me to train for 1.5 months. during March I started training again, mostly working on cardio. I had a miniscus injury from running while I was in Vegas 2011 WSOP. I found a guy 2 months ago who fixed it without needing surgery and I have been training a few times a week since then.

I had a shitload of injuries. This is pretty common knowledge for the people who travel the EPT's or who are around me and Elky. It can be checked out. I just think it's important information for possible bets. I do think I'm more athletic than Elky. My coordination is better.



Elky:

- Had kickboxing lessons during the summer of 2009 in Vegas in preparation for a bet with Sorel.

- He has done a lot of stamina/strength training the past 2 years and has been doing a lot of research on eating healthy and nutricion.

- His coordination seems a bit bad and I don't think he is a natural athlete.

- After this WSOP he met up with Lincon Rodrigues, his new coach. Since then he has been training 4 hours a day and went to thailand for 3-4 weeks. Elky will confirm this, he has mentioned all this in interviews.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 22:09:33
November 23 2011 17:24 GMT
#2
-NUKED-

*EDIT
Nuked myself for I am a fool!
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
November 23 2011 17:27 GMT
#3
On November 24 2011 02:24 Bourneq wrote:
Cool, but I dont think a thread dedicated to a youtube video is allowed.


Obviously you don't know who these players are..
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 23 2011 17:29 GMT
#4
On November 24 2011 02:27 `Zapdos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 02:24 Bourneq wrote:
Cool, but I dont think a thread dedicated to a youtube video is allowed.


Obviously you don't know who these players are..

Exactly what I thought.

Ahaha this is so funny, they really have too much money.
rgfdxm
Profile Joined December 2006
United States239 Posts
November 23 2011 17:29 GMT
#5
For anyone else who doesn't know... Elky was the second most successful foreigner ever to play Starcraft in Korea, and RaSZi was AKA Liquid`RaSZi.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
November 23 2011 17:30 GMT
#6
So it really happened, eh?

Can someone give me a spoiler-tagged result? I'm at work and can't watch the video.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 23 2011 17:32 GMT
#7
Raszi had much better technique, if I had to guess he trained much harder. Sick finish! The Dutch are overpowered in kickboxing
Ezekiell
Profile Joined April 2005
Hungary15 Posts
November 23 2011 17:33 GMT
#8
Results in spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +

RaSZi won with KO
Come to the dark side!
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
November 23 2011 17:34 GMT
#9
LOL :D
Epic fun :D
... Humanity Is Not What I Suffer From ...
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:36:58
November 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#10
Rekrul Korea (South). October 17 2011 20:03. Posts 15280 PM Profile Blog Quote #
Anyone who bets against Elky in anything is a retard.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
November 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#11
those two could invest in some sc2 tourneys!
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:37:27
November 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#12
doublepost
11 years and counting- TL #680
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:39:49
November 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#13
They could, but I assume they have moved on from starcraft a long time ago, so why would they.

Lex looked much better in the fight- also Elky seemed somewhat confused about the ruleset- Looked to me like he thought he'd be allowed to catch the kick and take him to the ground or something?
11 years and counting- TL #680
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#14
Nice. Epic fight.
Wishing you well.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#15
On November 24 2011 02:35 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rekrul Korea (South). October 17 2011 20:03. Posts 15280 PM Profile Blog Quote #
Anyone who bets against Elky in anything is a retard.

Ahahah, I hope for him that he didnt bet anything (which I really doubt).
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
November 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#16
These guys!

i guess they got talked into that or something ?
like on the poker table at the world series?
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
November 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#17
On November 24 2011 02:35 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rekrul Korea (South). October 17 2011 20:03. Posts 15280 PM Profile Blog Quote #
Anyone who bets against Elky in anything is a retard.


he probably wrote that to get the odds more in favour for him when he bets on Raszi...
gaston116
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden73 Posts
November 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#18
On November 24 2011 02:32 floor exercise wrote:
Raszi had much better technique, if I had to guess he trained much harder. Sick finish! The Dutch are overpowered in kickboxing

From Lex website

+ Show Spoiler +
Me:

- Did boxing for 1.5 years when I was 16. I trained once a week for a couple of months at the time, totalling 15-20 lessons. The footwork taught in boxing actually hurt me, cause it's different in kickboxing. It did give me good coordination for training.

- I've been in a couple streetfights.

- I have had a lot of injuries, most of them to the shin and ribs. I bruised 9 ribs total and nearly broke both my feet. After discussing the bet in 2009 August, I started doing some running in February, not taking it seriously till April. Then I bruised my ribs and injured my spleen. This was when we postponed the bet the first time. I wasn't able to train for 2.5 months. After WSOP in september I started doing some kickboxing training, but I overstretched my foot in October and couldn't fight till December. I started again and had a shin injury that made it unable for me to train for 1.5 months. during March I started training again, mostly working on cardio. I had a miniscus injury from running while I was in Vegas 2011 WSOP. I found a guy 2 months ago who fixed it without needing surgery and I have been training a few times a week since then.

I had a shitload of injuries. This is pretty common knowledge for the people who travel the EPT's or who are around me and Elky. It can be checked out. I just think it's important information for possible bets. I do think I'm more athletic than Elky. My coordination is better.



Elky:

- Had kickboxing lessons during the summer of 2009 in Vegas in preparation for a bet with Sorel.

- He has done a lot of stamina/strength training the past 2 years and has been doing a lot of research on eating healthy and nutricion.

- His coordination seems a bit bad and I don't think he is a natural athlete.

- After this WSOP he met up with Lincon Rodrigues, his new coach. Since then he has been training 4 hours a day and went to thailand for 3-4 weeks. Elky will confirm this, he has mentioned all this in interviews.
dizzee
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway36 Posts
November 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#19
On November 24 2011 02:37 Monsen wrote:
They could, but I assume they have moved on from starcraft a long time ago, so why would they.


Looking at some of their posts the occationally post in threads and likely lurk the forums. Considering they are both long time members of the community, i woulden't be suprised if they did invest.
Know that you do enjoy your life, and that life is a year-long cycle in which after winter, summer always arrives.
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
November 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#20
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awesome!

love both guys! Awwww poor elky!! <3
1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Creator 149
Livibee 101
SKillous 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 44766
Sea 5856
Rain 3811
Horang2 2205
PianO 1564
GuemChi 993
EffOrt 755
Soma 288
Mini 260
firebathero 233
[ Show more ]
Mong 208
ggaemo 175
Light 170
BeSt 168
Rush 159
Snow 147
Sharp 135
Hyun 115
Zeus 111
Sea.KH 94
Barracks 80
JYJ 77
hero 60
Mind 55
Terrorterran 53
Leta 48
Sexy 27
scan(afreeca) 21
zelot 20
yabsab 17
Shine 15
Bale 7
SilentControl 7
JulyZerg 6
Dota 2
qojqva3043
XcaliburYe1272
Fuzer 223
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2929
zeus1342
shoxiejesuss847
edward171
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor223
Other Games
singsing2098
crisheroes379
XaKoH 131
Organizations
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings105
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 93
• HeavenSC 28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota249
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
2h 42m
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
10h 42m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.