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CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
November 23 2011 19:28 GMT
#61
On November 24 2011 03:54 floor exercise wrote:
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On November 24 2011 03:43 CaM27 wrote:
So dissapointed by Elky! He trained hard and he looked like nothing. Looked like a streetfight with Lex being the naughty vicious guy throwing knees and low kicks. Good tactic but really elky MEH!

By the way this is not kickboxing, kickboxing you shouldn't be allowed to throw low kicks or knees. Only in thai you are allowed to this. What is elky thinking figthing english boxing??,

The most widely used kickboxing rules are K1 rules. You're probably thinking more American kickboxing, which is a fucking awful sport. Or I guess Savate since you're Belgian? I'm not too familiar with the rules. There are different clinch rules, and no elbows, but you can say it's pretty similar to Muay Thai.


Savate is french. I did kickboxing and that's above the belt. I always thought below the belt was pretty lame anyway.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
November 23 2011 19:29 GMT
#62
On November 24 2011 03:43 CaM27 wrote:
By the way this is not kickboxing, kickboxing you shouldn't be allowed to throw low kicks or knees. Only in thai you are allowed to this. What is elky thinking figthing english boxing??,

There are many different styles of kickboxing. From what they were allowed to do and what not it followed dutch style kickboxing rules.

Definitely fun to watch though. Just picked up kickboxing again after years of fishing which makes me appreciate this even more.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 23 2011 19:30 GMT
#63
On November 24 2011 04:07 sunprince wrote:
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On November 24 2011 02:53 floor exercise wrote:Kickboxing is the best combat sport by the way I have no idea why its not more popular around the world


Possibly because it completely neglects grappling (except for brief one-handed clinching), thereby missing a key feature of real unarmed combat?

Are you suggesting it's not popular because it's not MMA? It's a great sport as well, but it's not "real unarmed combat" and has never attempted to be. And if that were the case, where are all the vale tudo fans? It's just another combat sport. I'm sure there's a significant group of tapout wearing idiots who think it's "real combat" but boxing, kickboxing and mma are all just different sports, and there's reason to appreciate and enjoy them all.
Evybabee
Profile Joined November 2011
United States2 Posts
November 23 2011 19:31 GMT
#64
Elky: 'Not enough energy. We require more minerals.'
ElkY: Not enough energy. We require more minerals.
CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
November 23 2011 19:31 GMT
#65
On November 24 2011 04:29 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 03:43 CaM27 wrote:
By the way this is not kickboxing, kickboxing you shouldn't be allowed to throw low kicks or knees. Only in thai you are allowed to this. What is elky thinking figthing english boxing??,

There are many different styles of kickboxing. From what they were allowed to do and what not it followed dutch style kickboxing rules.

Definitely fun to watch though. Just picked up kickboxing again after years of fishing which makes me appreciate this even more.


fishing? wtf? :D
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
November 23 2011 19:33 GMT
#66
On November 24 2011 04:30 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 04:07 sunprince wrote:
On November 24 2011 02:53 floor exercise wrote:Kickboxing is the best combat sport by the way I have no idea why its not more popular around the world


Possibly because it completely neglects grappling (except for brief one-handed clinching), thereby missing a key feature of real unarmed combat?

Are you suggesting it's not popular because it's not MMA? It's a great sport as well, but it's not "real unarmed combat" and has never attempted to be. And if that were the case, where are all the vale tudo fans? It's just another combat sport. I'm sure there's a significant group of tapout wearing idiots who think it's "real combat" but boxing, kickboxing and mma are all just different sports, and there's reason to appreciate and enjoy them all.


I'm pretty sure he wrote that to counter your cocky statement about kickboxing being the best combat sport.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 23 2011 19:33 GMT
#67
btw, was that joop ubeda, it's showtime's ref? I think it was O_O
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
November 23 2011 19:34 GMT
#68
Elky's technique didn't look very refined.
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
November 23 2011 19:37 GMT
#69
On November 24 2011 04:33 -_- wrote:
btw, was that joop ubeda, it's showtime's ref? I think it was O_O


Yes it was. Elky got his ass handed to him so hard...
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
November 23 2011 19:37 GMT
#70
For as hyped up as this bet was and the amount of time they spent "training" I expected them to be in much better physical condition... Regardless, good fight those kicks were sick.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 23 2011 19:38 GMT
#71
On November 24 2011 04:33 -_- wrote:
btw, was that joop ubeda, it's showtime's ref? I think it was O_O

That or they found a very convincing short bald man
viOLetFanClub
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)390 Posts
November 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#72
So how did they get so wealthy to blow "sixfigs" on a boxing match like this?
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
November 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#73
Good effort!
Tobad Elky looked quite outmatched in this, guess he shoulda made it a BW showmatch instead :D

As for everyone comparing the rules.
This was either K1(modern japanese ruleset) or some dutch set of kickboxing rules, judging by the use of kicks and knees, but the ref always breaking up clinching.
Most Western kickboxing doesn't allow elbows/knees/clinching.
Some allow knees/limited clinching

Muay Thai allows all of these and can usually be recognized if you see elbow blows as these are pretty much prohibited in all other kickboxing styles.
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Compendium
Profile Joined April 2005
United States14 Posts
November 23 2011 19:44 GMT
#74
On November 24 2011 04:39 k1mjee wrote:
So how did they get so wealthy to blow "sixfigs" on a boxing match like this?


Poker, just google Elky's tournament winnings.
Vantastic
Profile Joined October 2009
United States112 Posts
November 23 2011 19:44 GMT
#75
Dam, I didn't think it was going to be the KICKS that's going to win the fight.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
November 23 2011 19:45 GMT
#76
On November 24 2011 04:44 Vantastic wrote:
Dam, I didn't think it was going to be the KICKS that's going to win the fight.

It wasn't haha, the fight was won before that. Raszi could have finished with punches just as well.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32153 Posts
November 23 2011 19:47 GMT
#77
Yeah, but the kick is so much more badass. LIQUID`VANDAMME
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Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 19:57:49
November 23 2011 19:47 GMT
#78
On November 24 2011 04:29 zatic wrote:
Definitely fun to watch though. Just picked up kickboxing again after years of fishing which makes me appreciate this even more.
How on Earth do you switch from fishing to kickboxing??

On November 24 2011 03:24 Sqalevon wrote:
Also, is that Raymond Sluiter on the stands? (Dutch tenniser)
I think it was. I couldn't make it out clearly but I'm pretty sure I heard Fatima Moreira de Melo shouting "Lexy!!!!" somewhere in the middle. She is the girlfriend of Raymond Sluiter and both are good friends with Lex.
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
November 23 2011 19:49 GMT
#79
oh wow this actually happened lol
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4002 Posts
November 23 2011 19:50 GMT
#80
Haha, that was fun to watch. It got annoying at the end though with the terrible camera job and the swearing/shouting of the dutch fans while the fight was already over. tbh, it didn't look like Elky trained 4h a day for any period of time. His technique was lacking and he got tired soon also.
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